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Adam, Eve and T. Rex
LA Times ^ | 8/27/05 | Ashley Powers

Posted on 08/27/2005 9:28:07 PM PDT by Crackingham

Dinny the roadside dinosaur has found religion. The 45-foot-high concrete apatosaurus has towered over Interstate 10 near Palm Springs for nearly three decades as a kitschy prehistoric pit stop for tourists. Now he is the star of a renovated attraction that disputes the fact that dinosaurs died off millions of years before humans first walked the planet.

Dinny's new owners, pointing to the Book of Genesis, contend that most dinosaurs arrived on Earth the same day as Adam and Eve, some 6,000 years ago, and later marched two by two onto Noah's Ark. The gift shop at the attraction, called the Cabazon Dinosaurs, sells toy dinosaurs whose labels warn, "Don't swallow it! The fossil record does not support evolution."

The Cabazon Dinosaurs join at least half a dozen other roadside attractions nationwide that use the giant reptiles' popularity in seeking to win converts to creationism. And more are on the way.

"We're putting evolutionists on notice: We're taking the dinosaurs back," said Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, a Christian group building a $25-million creationist museum in Petersburg, Ky., that's already overrun with model sauropods and velociraptors.

"They're used to teach people that there's no God, and they're used to brainwash people," he said. "Evolutionists get very upset when we use dinosaurs. That's their star."

The nation's top paleontologists find the creation theory preposterous and say children are being misled by dinosaur exhibits that take the Jurassic out of "Jurassic Park."

"Dinosaurs lived in the Garden of Eden, and Noah's Ark? Give me a break," said Kevin Padian, curator at the University of California Museum of Paleontology in Berkeley and president of National Center for Science Education, an Oakland group that supports teaching evolution. "For them, 'The Flintstones' is a documentary."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antichristianbigots; christians; cnim; dinosaurs; genesis; museum
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To: balch3
Darwinists runing scared Bump!
Darwinists rolling on the floor laughing at idiots Bump!
21 posted on 08/27/2005 10:06:12 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: Lexinom
The Word also speaks of three different heaven/earth ages.

There was a catastrophic event that killed off all life in the FIRST heaven/earth age prior to man ever being form in the flesh. The dinos were around in the FIRST heaven/earth age.

Genesis 1:2 is describing that event, with follow up descriptions elsewhere planted within the Word.

Creationists do themselves no service claiming that the dino's were around during this heaven/earth age.

What evolutionists reject is the Heavenly Father did do what He said He did.
22 posted on 08/27/2005 10:07:09 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Wormwood
In other news, two morons do their part to ruin the world for the rest of us. Who are the morons you speak about?
23 posted on 08/27/2005 10:19:33 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Clemenza
Moron alert!

What are you talking about? What do you mean by 'Moron alert!'?

24 posted on 08/27/2005 10:21:32 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

"The Texas museum sponsors a continuing hunt for living pterodactyls in Papua New Guinea. Baugh said five colleagues have spotted the flying dinosaurs, "but all the sightings were made after dark, and we were not able to capture the creatures.""

The are hunting for dinosaurs in Papua New Guinea but can not afford nightvision/IR cameras?


25 posted on 08/27/2005 10:23:23 PM PDT by SolarisRocks
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To: Lexinom

macroevolution is a myth? Sorry to bust your bubble...

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/


26 posted on 08/27/2005 10:31:13 PM PDT by warpsmith
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To: Just mythoughts

Genesis 1:2 doesn't even come close to describing such an event.


27 posted on 08/27/2005 10:34:33 PM PDT by Fatalist (60 in 06)
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To: Fatalist

Really, what does without form and void mean?


28 posted on 08/27/2005 10:36:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

It means just what it says - the earth was a lump of rock awaiting God to give it form. God had just created it and was now going to form it and populate it. There is absolutely nothing in the text to suggest that the earth had form or life prior to this.


29 posted on 08/27/2005 10:44:25 PM PDT by Fatalist (60 in 06)
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To: Fatalist
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD That created the heavens; God Himself That formed the earth and made it: He hath established it, He created it NOT in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.


The "in vain" is the same as used in Genesis 1:2 does in fact describe an event which cause the earth to become without form and void = waste.

One might call what follows Genesis 1:2 an environmental clean up.
30 posted on 08/27/2005 10:54:19 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Fatalist
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Just something to think about...

31 posted on 08/27/2005 10:56:15 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Wormwood

more proof that money and brains are not necissarily correlated.


32 posted on 08/27/2005 10:58:22 PM PDT by bigsigh
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To: bigsigh

nor spelling


33 posted on 08/27/2005 10:58:38 PM PDT by bigsigh
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To: Just mythoughts
The "in vain" is the same as used in Genesis 1:2 does in fact describe an event which cause the earth to become without form and void = waste.

You're saying the Hebrew rendered as "in vain" in Isaiah 45:18 is the same word rendered as "void" in Genesis 1:2? And the word implies an actual event? If so, there seems to be a great deal lost in the translation - neither rendering implies a cataclysmic event. It's late, or I'd look into this more, but it really doesn't look like Isaiah is saying anything here other than the fact that God had a purpose in creating the Earth.

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Just something to think about...

To my knowledge the only translations that render it "replenish" are modern revisions of the KJV. The NKJV, NASB, NIV and 1611 KJV (I believe - I'm not 100% certain on that last one) all render it "fill".

34 posted on 08/27/2005 11:33:50 PM PDT by Fatalist (60 in 06)
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To: Crackingham
Rare photo from 6004 B.C.


35 posted on 08/27/2005 11:36:31 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Why are we "freepers"? Shouldn't we be "freereps"? Are we dyslexic?)
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To: Just mythoughts

Just realized the quote from Genesis 1:28 wasn't from you. Sorry about that.


36 posted on 08/27/2005 11:46:13 PM PDT by Fatalist (60 in 06)
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To: Iscool
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Just something to think about...

To my knowledge the only translations that render it "replenish" are modern revisions of the KJV. The NKJV, NASB, NIV and 1611 KJV (I believe - I'm not 100% certain on that last one) all render it "fill".

37 posted on 08/27/2005 11:47:14 PM PDT by Fatalist (60 in 06)
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To: decal

"Joe Barbera wrote Genesis??"

Well he a "creator" to Fred Flintstone.


38 posted on 08/28/2005 12:01:52 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Fatalist; Just mythoughts; Iscool
Genesis 1:2 doesn't even come close to describing such an event.

For your perusing pleasure:

notes on Isaiah 45:18
This Is From The Companion Bible.

Isaiah 45:18

   18.  For thus saith  1 the LORD °That created the heavens; God Himself  °That formed the earth and °made it; he hath established it, °He created it not °in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: " I am  1 the LORD;
and there is none else.

   That created = the Creator of.   Note how these expressions are heaped together to impress us with the fact that the One Who created all ought to be able to tell us, better than ignorant man, how He created it.
   That formed = The Former of.      Hebrew yazar = to fashion.
   made = the Maker of.      He created. It did not come of itself by evolution (see Appendix 5 and 8). Reference to Pentateuch (Genesis 1:
1)
   in vain = tohu. The same word as in Genesis 1:
2 ("without form"). Therefore it must have become tohu: which is exactly what Genesis 1:2 declares (See Below). In Genesis 1:1 we have "the world that then was" (compare 2Peter 3:6); and in verse 2 we have ruin into which it fell.

   We are not told how, when, or why, or how long it lasted. When geologists have settled how many years they require, they may place them between verses 1 and 2 of Genesis 1.

   In Genesis 1:2-2:4, we have "the heavens and the earth which are now" of 2Peter 3:7. Both are set in contrast with the "new heavens and the new earth" of 2Peter 3:13.

   1The Lord  =  Hebrew; Yehovah


notes on Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.
This Is From The Companion Bible.

1.  IN the beginning °God °created °the heaven and the earth.
2.  °And °the earth °was °without form, and void; and darkness °was upon the °face of the deep.
And °the Spirit of God moved upon the °face of the waters.

   1.  "THE WORLD THAT THEN WAS" (2Peter 3:5,6). See Structure, page 1. Creation in eternity past, to which all Fossils and "Remains" belongs.

   God. Hebrew Elohim, plural. First occurence connects it with creation, and denotes, by usage, the Creator in relation to His creatures. See Appendix 4. The Hebrew accent Athnach places the emphasis, and gives pause, on "God" as being Himself the great worker, separating the Worker from His work.

   created (sing.). Occurs 6 times in this Introduction. Other acts 46 times. See Appendix 5. Perfection implied. Deuteronomy 32:4. 2Samuel 22:31. Job 38:7. Pslams 111; 147:3-5. Proverbs 3:19. Ecclesiastes 3:11-14. [Even the Greek Cosmos = ornament. Exodus 33:4-6. Isaiah 49:18. Jeremiah 4:30. Ezekiel 7:20. 1Peter 3:3]

   the heaven and the earth. With Hebrew Particle 'eth before each, emphasising the Article "the", and thus distinguishing both from 2:1. "Heavens" in Hebrew always in plural. See note on Deuteronomy 4:26.


   2.  And. Note the Figure of Speech Polysyndeton (See appendix 6), by which, in the 34 verses of this Introduction, each one of 102 separate acts are emphasised; and the important word "God" in verse 1 is carried like a lamp through the whole of this Introduction (1:1 - 2:3).

   the earth. Figure of Speech Anadiplosis. See appendix 6.

   was = become. See Genesis 2:7; 4:3; 9:15; 19:26. Exodus 32:1. Deuteronomy 27:9. 2Samuel 7:24, etc. Also rendered came to pass, Genesis 4:14; 22:1; 23:1; 27:1. Joshua 4:1; 5:1. 1Kings 13:32. Isaiah 14:24 etc. Also rendered be (in the sense of become), verse 3 etc., and where the verb "to be" is not in italic type. Hence, Exodus 3:1, kept=became keeper, quit = become men, etc. See Appendix 7.

   without form = waste. Hebrew tohu va bohu. Figure of Speech Paronomasia See appendix 6. Not created tohu (Isaiah 45:18 See Above), but became tohu (Genesis 1:2. 2Peter 3:5,6). "An enemy hath done this" (Matthew 13:25,28,39. compare 1Corithians 14:33). See Appendix 8.

   was. This is the italic type, because no verb "to be" in Hebrew (see Appendix 7). In like manner man became a ruin (Genesis 3. Psalms 14:1-3; 51:5; 53:1-3. Ecclesiastes 7:20. Romans 7:18).

   face. Figure of Speech Pleonasm. See appendix 6.

   the Spirit of God moved (see Appendix 9) = The beginning of "the heavens and the earth which are now" (2Peter 3:7). It is even so in the New Creation. The Spirit moves (John 3:3-8. Romans 8:5,9,14. Galatians 4:29. 2Corinthians 5:17,18).

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39 posted on 08/28/2005 12:10:35 AM PDT by BikerTrash (Enough already with the carnival freak show...bring back COOL!)
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To: Crackingham
T. Rex?

OK then, to paraphrase Marc Bolan, you won't fool the children of the macroevolution. Boogie on!

40 posted on 08/28/2005 12:14:36 AM PDT by buickmackane
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