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Adam, Eve and T. Rex
LA Times ^ | 8/27/05 | Ashley Powers

Posted on 08/27/2005 9:28:07 PM PDT by Crackingham

Dinny the roadside dinosaur has found religion. The 45-foot-high concrete apatosaurus has towered over Interstate 10 near Palm Springs for nearly three decades as a kitschy prehistoric pit stop for tourists. Now he is the star of a renovated attraction that disputes the fact that dinosaurs died off millions of years before humans first walked the planet.

Dinny's new owners, pointing to the Book of Genesis, contend that most dinosaurs arrived on Earth the same day as Adam and Eve, some 6,000 years ago, and later marched two by two onto Noah's Ark. The gift shop at the attraction, called the Cabazon Dinosaurs, sells toy dinosaurs whose labels warn, "Don't swallow it! The fossil record does not support evolution."

The Cabazon Dinosaurs join at least half a dozen other roadside attractions nationwide that use the giant reptiles' popularity in seeking to win converts to creationism. And more are on the way.

"We're putting evolutionists on notice: We're taking the dinosaurs back," said Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, a Christian group building a $25-million creationist museum in Petersburg, Ky., that's already overrun with model sauropods and velociraptors.

"They're used to teach people that there's no God, and they're used to brainwash people," he said. "Evolutionists get very upset when we use dinosaurs. That's their star."

The nation's top paleontologists find the creation theory preposterous and say children are being misled by dinosaur exhibits that take the Jurassic out of "Jurassic Park."

"Dinosaurs lived in the Garden of Eden, and Noah's Ark? Give me a break," said Kevin Padian, curator at the University of California Museum of Paleontology in Berkeley and president of National Center for Science Education, an Oakland group that supports teaching evolution. "For them, 'The Flintstones' is a documentary."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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To: RaceBannon
Good. Read Genesis 2 ...

Only an idiot believes that nonsense.

Whatever.

141 posted on 08/28/2005 1:59:05 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: RaceBannon
""The universe began as a point singularity black hole with a Schwarzchild radius from which no electromagnetic radiation could escape. Then it exploded in the Big Bang with a tremendous flash of light." "And the earth was void and without form, and darkness moved across the face of the deep. And God said, 'Let there be light . . . .'" Seems the ancient Hebrews got it right . . . .

The Cydonia Files "

Just googled Cydonia, and it turns out it's the Faces on Mars crap, ancient astronauts and pyramids on Mars junk. Are you trying to make a fool of yourself posting this?
142 posted on 08/28/2005 1:59:21 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Lexinom
It is actively propogated by those who want to live as they wish, with no thought of the Creator who will ultimately call them to account for every idle word, every deed done in secret.

Kinda sounds like Santa Claus.
143 posted on 08/28/2005 2:06:27 PM PDT by Vive ut Vivas
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To: IrishCatholic
Also, Intelligent Design is not necessarily creationism. Connecting the two is not accurate. To persist in the connection is to lose all credibility.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Why the guru of ID says evolution is impossible .... You know, IC!

144 posted on 08/28/2005 2:07:56 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Get back to me when you have proof that a beaver gave birth to a bat.
</creationism mode>
145 posted on 08/28/2005 2:30:24 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Rare photo from 6004 B.C.

Hahaha, There is your proof right there! You made a believer out of me, I'm convinced... : ) <<< me

146 posted on 08/28/2005 2:43:20 PM PDT by stopsign ( ("What great fortune for government, that people don't think". ...Der Fuhrer... [hummmm...]))
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To: Just mythoughts
There was a catastrophic event that killed off all life in the FIRST heaven/earth age prior to man ever being form in the flesh

I have always understood that the mistranslation of the word "Was" in Genesis 1:2 was the culprit for this controversy. Most newer translations (including your disdained NIV) show a footnote that "Became" is also acceptable. The Hebrew word is "Hayah" and for reference it is the same hebrew word used in Genesis 19:26 where it says "But Lot's wife looked back and she "became" a pillar of salt."

When the proper translation is used, and traditional theology is ignored, you do indeed find acceptable the idea as you proposed of a prior creation.....but, I do agree that the creation from Genesis 1:3 through 1:31 took a literal 6 days to complete. And God rested on the Sabbath.

Using "became" as the verb in Genesis 1:2 allows then perhaps billions and billions of years between verse 1 and verse 2. Then 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 make more sense when you realize that the location "Tartarus"(Greek for the commonly mis-translated Hell) is the current restrained condition of the sinning angels from the "Ancient" world.

I often ask people to show me in scripture where the rebellion of Satan and his angels took place....if not before Genesis 1:2?????

147 posted on 08/28/2005 3:00:25 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: RadioAstronomer

Point One: Read the post again in context. Therefore no apology is needed.

Point two: Read the posts I was responding to. That should explain the name calling.

Point three: No smokescreen or disinformation allowed. If s a scientist creates a living organism in a lab from scratch he is not God. Therefore the postulate that life on earth was engineered does not necessarily presuppose God as the designer. Thus it does not fall squarely in the creationist camp as they state the origin is biblical and God is the creator.


148 posted on 08/28/2005 3:20:44 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Ichneumon

Well, hard to refute those points.


149 posted on 08/28/2005 3:21:39 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
No, I did post one thing that made sense, but I dont endorse the rest of the site...


Actually, I saved the post from a long time ago, and havent even read that site in over 2 years, so, now I am going to go back and see it again, either I missed something if what you say is true) or they added to the site since I was there! :)
150 posted on 08/28/2005 3:39:48 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: WildTurkey

Responding with personal attacks and no substance means I won.

Thanks for playing.


151 posted on 08/28/2005 3:41:19 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: Coyoteman

Taught in science class?

Like the foolish idea that hydrogen gas, when left alone to chance, will become people through evolution?

You mean rediculous things like that taught in science class?

I'd ratherbelieve the stories of dragons, which only means lizard anyways, than fables of apes becoming people.


152 posted on 08/28/2005 3:44:46 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: shuckmaster

You need to read more posts before you make such questions.


153 posted on 08/28/2005 3:45:39 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon
Responding with personal attacks and no substance means I won. Thanks for playing.

It wasn't with no substance. Your post indicates you are completely ignorant on evolution outside of what you read on the creationists' websites.

(BTW, you must have bought the $29.95 tape.)

154 posted on 08/28/2005 3:54:10 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: SolarisRocks
How did the dinosaurs fit in the ark?

They were baby dinosaurs.

155 posted on 08/28/2005 3:55:10 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: RaceBannon
Taught in science class?

Like the foolish idea that hydrogen gas, when left alone to chance, will become people through evolution?

You mean rediculous things like that taught in science class?

I'd rather believe the stories of dragons, which only means lizard anyways, than fables of apes becoming people.


Common, Race. You can do better than that! There are a lot of things on your previously posted list which are simply contradicted by science--contradicted by a lot of science!

The idea of apes and other critters changing through time (evolving) is supported by a lot of data. If you're going to argue these scientific points, its best to stick to scientific data and theories.

If you want to argue faith, fine--but don't try to mix the two. What is true on one side of the fence is not necessarily true on the other. You have two different world views represented, and its not very productive to try to argue from such diverse bases.

156 posted on 08/28/2005 3:56:39 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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To: Lexinom

There you go again - trying to confuse everyone with facts. Shame on you! ;)


157 posted on 08/28/2005 3:57:44 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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bump


158 posted on 08/28/2005 3:58:07 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: RaceBannon
Like the foolish idea that hydrogen gas, when left alone to chance, will become people through evolution?

It seems to do pretty well becoming all the higher chemical elements, pretty much by chance.

Transmutation is a tougher climb up the hill of improbability than chemical combination.

159 posted on 08/28/2005 3:58:22 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: RaceBannon
I'll just do one of your sillies. Just for variety it won't be the one I usually do in creationist posts.

2. Lack of Solar Neutrinos from the Sun. If the Sun is powered by fusion, then it can stay lit for billions of years. However, a fusion reaction should produce neutrinos. No neutrinos are detected coming from the Sun. This indicates that the Sun is powered by a lesser energy reaction -- such as gravitational collapse -- which again could not be sustained for more than a few million years.

Neutrinos aren't easy to detect. However, once we were able to detect neutrinos, we were able to detect them from the Sun. There has been no serious question that the Sun runs by nuclear fusion and not gravitational collapse. It could hardly do otherwise, as we proved with the H-bomb.

For a time, we didn't detect so many neutrinos as we thought we should. We didn't realize that neutrinos can change from mu to tau in transit. They can. So even the "missing" neutrinos aren't missing anymore and at no time were they ALL missing.

160 posted on 08/28/2005 4:08:46 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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