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To: Just mythoughts
There was a catastrophic event that killed off all life in the FIRST heaven/earth age prior to man ever being form in the flesh

I have always understood that the mistranslation of the word "Was" in Genesis 1:2 was the culprit for this controversy. Most newer translations (including your disdained NIV) show a footnote that "Became" is also acceptable. The Hebrew word is "Hayah" and for reference it is the same hebrew word used in Genesis 19:26 where it says "But Lot's wife looked back and she "became" a pillar of salt."

When the proper translation is used, and traditional theology is ignored, you do indeed find acceptable the idea as you proposed of a prior creation.....but, I do agree that the creation from Genesis 1:3 through 1:31 took a literal 6 days to complete. And God rested on the Sabbath.

Using "became" as the verb in Genesis 1:2 allows then perhaps billions and billions of years between verse 1 and verse 2. Then 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 make more sense when you realize that the location "Tartarus"(Greek for the commonly mis-translated Hell) is the current restrained condition of the sinning angels from the "Ancient" world.

I often ask people to show me in scripture where the rebellion of Satan and his angels took place....if not before Genesis 1:2?????

147 posted on 08/28/2005 3:00:25 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
Interesting and thank you. I would not use the word disdain of the NIV, rather a version that takes away my ability to check out in the Strongs what words actually mean.

To me there is a reason for IIPeter 3 the whole chapter. Verse 1 establishes what is required for what follows. A pure mind is not the norm of we in this flesh, something sought and given. Remembrance of something when one has no literal flesh memory could only come from the Holy Spirit and by implication other "memories" from the negative spirit.

verse 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the LORD as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

This puts a time to us in the flesh about the method of the Heavenly Father marking time and it not only looks back to the days of creation, but yet looks forward. The prophets, major and minor continually use the phrase "in that day" or Day of the Lord, as a future time in which things will be returned to what was in that first heaven/earth age. Ezekiel's last few chapters are entirely devoted to what is to come marking the LORD's day before judgment takes place. We are told in IICorinthians 15:50-58 what happens to all flesh with the return of Christ.

So it is not that I believe the Heavenly Father incapable of the creation in a literal day, rather that it is a blueprint of what is to come.
195 posted on 08/29/2005 3:22:21 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Diego1618

Using different words to water down meaning can always allow for different things to be done with the words as a whole. That's why language is designed to give words specific meaning such that clarity is established to the extent possible when using specific words. What you reason would be allowed vs. what the passage says is two different things. In the original language, no such billions of years nonsense is supported.


198 posted on 08/29/2005 3:47:47 AM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: Diego1618
I often ask people to show me in scripture where the rebellion of Satan and his angels took place....if not before Genesis 1:2?????

Genesis 1:31 (KJV): 'And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.'

The last day of creation. EVERY thing that God created was deemed 'good', so the rebellion of Lucifer could not have happened prior then. Ezekiel 28:13 'Thou [Lucifer] hast been in Eden the garden of God.' To say that God would create the Garden of Eden - with all it's attendant plant and animal life for Lucifer and the angels, only to destroy it, then recreate it and the Garden again is insanity. If God can create the universe to begin with, He certainly could make it in an instant, or 6 days - not require billions of years, and multiple attempts to get it right. Satan rebelled some time after Adam and Eve were created.

352 posted on 08/30/2005 9:38:48 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross. HIS love for us kept Him there.(||)
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