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Live Thread - Hurricane Katrina, Part IV (Update: Now a Category 5 )
NOAA - NHC ^ | 27 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/27/2005 8:05:55 PM PDT by NautiNurse

Hurricane warnings and watches are posted. Hurricane Katrina continues to strengthen in the Gulf of Mexico. The forecast models continue to converge upon New Orleans. However, all interests in the northern Gulf of Mexico should follow the path of this very large and dangerous storm, and be prepared for a major hurricane landfall. There have been reports of coastal animals leaving in droves for higher ground. Meanwhile, New Orleans continues to suggest that residents evacuate.

The following links are self-updating:

Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track
Navy Storm Track
Katrina Track Forecast Archive Nice loop of each NHC forecast track for both three and five day
Forecast Models
Alternate Hurricane Models via Skeetobite
Bouy Data Louisiana/Mississippi

Buoy Data Florida

Images:


New Orleans/Baton Rouge Experimental Radar Subject to delays and outages - and well worth the wait

Mobile Long Range Radar Loop

New Orleans/Baton Rouge Radar

Ft. Polk, LA Long Range Radar Loop

Northwest Florida Long Range Radar

Storm Floater IR Loop
Storm Floater Still & Loop Options
Color Enhanced IR Loop

Other Resources:


Hurricane Wind Risk Very informative tables showing inland wind potential by hurricane strength and forward motion
Central Florida Hurricane Center
New Orleans Web Cams Loads of web cam sites here. The sites have been very slow due to high traffic
New Orleans Music Online Couldn't resist--love that jazz
Golden Triangle Weather Page Nice Beaumont weather site with lots of tracks and graphics
Hurricane City
Crown Weather Tropical Website Offers a variety of storm info, with some nice track graphics

Live streaming:
copy/paste into player:


WWL-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_wwltv
WVTM-TV/DT Birmingham (WMP) - mms://a1256.l1289835255.c12898.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1256/12898/v0001/reflector:35255
WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38202.asx
Hurricane City (Real Player) - http://hurricanecity.com/live.ram
ABCNews Now (Real Player) - http://reallive.stream.aol.com/ramgen/redundant/abc/now_hi.rm

Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina; tropical; weather
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To: Pyro7480

You're right. Up the Chesapeake or Delaware is not quite as plausible as the gulf coast - HOWEVER.....you think about how narrow NJ is between the Atlantic and the Bay at the Salem location......

But storms up either bay are both feasible.


341 posted on 08/27/2005 10:10:29 PM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

There is this critical breakwater dam on the Mississippi (maybe 150 miles up or so, I am not sure), thwarting nature because the natural slow of the Mississippi due to silting is now due south from that dam. Thus that dam is under tremendous pressure, which if it fails will cause the Mississippi to flow down the Atchafalaya River whipping out everything in its path, including I think Morgan City. Louisiana is a state insurance companies should avoid.


342 posted on 08/27/2005 10:10:32 PM PDT by Torie
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To: nwctwx

Nice multi-model map


343 posted on 08/27/2005 10:10:39 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: sonsofliberty2000

XTRP is simply a straight line extrapolation of the storm's motion for the last (either 6 or 12) hours. It's not a model.


344 posted on 08/27/2005 10:10:46 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: MplsSteve
stats on Camille and I'm thinking that Katrina won't be anywhere that bad

Katrina will be worse. Camille was a very small, storm, more like a large tornado. Katrina is big, affecting a much wider area for a longer duration with more rain.

345 posted on 08/27/2005 10:10:51 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: alancarp

Hugo was most definitely a 4 at landfall (135mph), and I was outside like an idiot not too far inland (about 60 miles). It's hard to imagine anything much worse than that. I shudder to think what a 5 is like on the coast..


346 posted on 08/27/2005 10:11:06 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

It's not like the city and fed have been sitting around in a state of helplessness for the last 30 years. And it's going between Houston and Lake Charles.

/ducks


347 posted on 08/27/2005 10:11:10 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: sonsofliberty2000

The "XTRP model" is merely an "extrapolation" of the current direction, if it were to never change. Provided as a point of reference.


348 posted on 08/27/2005 10:11:23 PM PDT by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

XTRP is just an extrapolation of the current track. It is not a model.


349 posted on 08/27/2005 10:11:29 PM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: nwctwx

Thanks for the model--can you tell us what subtle differences are in this run from the last one?


350 posted on 08/27/2005 10:11:39 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Crazieman

Speaking of the 1935 Keys Hurricane, here's a link you might like:

http://www.weather.com/newscenter/specialreports/sotc/storm1/page1.html

There's a book you might like about this hurricane:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0792280105/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-9525205-0256946#reader-link


351 posted on 08/27/2005 10:11:46 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Sprite518; oceanview

I remember that Andrew was a five also. I don't think it was as big because while it leveled Homestead, I don't remember that caused that much destuction elsewhere. I think it was small and tight and powerful. I believe I heard the same about Camille. They thought in those days that small was safer but found out differently. I have some good hurricane videos I need to watch again to brush up on this stuff.


352 posted on 08/27/2005 10:11:46 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NautiNurse

Pardon my ignorance. I'm here on the (hot) rolling plains of North Texas, and I don't know that much about New Orleans. I keep hearing about plans to use the Dome as an emergency shelter. If the city is below sea level, how much of the Dome would be above water if it flooded? Would refugees be stranded in the nosebleed sections?

Sorry, but this doesn't sound like a good plan to me.


353 posted on 08/27/2005 10:13:01 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: alancarp

Thanks. In other words NO may have dodged many bullets in the past, but this time they are going to have to bite the bullet.


354 posted on 08/27/2005 10:13:36 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: ImphClinton
This map shows two Cat 5 hurricanes

LANDFALLING HURRICANES 1950-2004

355 posted on 08/27/2005 10:13:48 PM PDT by JUMPIN JEHOSPOHAT
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To: Palladin
I have read about animals acting crazy before disastrous events, like the big New Madrid earthquake in 1805 (I should check the date).

1811-1812 (*cough*).

The interesting thing about the New Madrid quake is that is often given as a period of time rather than as a specific point in time. There were many violent earthquakes during this period, not just one. When you consider that the geological explanation for that event was the North American continent ripping itself into two pieces, it seems more reasonable.

356 posted on 08/27/2005 10:13:48 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: Jedidah

Parts of the city are below sea level. The dome is in one of those spots that aren't.


357 posted on 08/27/2005 10:13:52 PM PDT by Crazieman (6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
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To: NautiNurse

Looks like a slight shift to the east from earlier runs. I haven't looked at each individually though, was out all evening.


358 posted on 08/27/2005 10:15:00 PM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: Flux Capacitor

I know. Sometimes we deserve what we get. I do my best to change things. I want people out there to know that we aren't all stupid and incompetent. However, there's just enough corruption to keep things from changing. We just have to keep hammering the truth until things change.


359 posted on 08/27/2005 10:15:02 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: NautiNurse

Tell him the last crash of FR was due to the hurricane threads...maybe that'll help him to understand.


360 posted on 08/27/2005 10:15:07 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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