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This idea of doing something that might actually work to stop illegal aliens from flooding into the United States is actually drawing great interest.

It won't go away.

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King says he wants candidates running for president to have clear and aggressive plans for dealing with immigration.

1 posted on 08/23/2005 6:29:06 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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This is a reasonable policy.

Of course, it will have to be a little bit higher tech - smugglers would have no problem cutting down portions of such a fence.

The best answer is a fence of this description with some kind of electronic warning system enabling border enforcement officers to rapidly respond to a breach.

2 posted on 08/23/2005 6:31:11 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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King says building a two thousand-mile-long fence would cost about 680 (m) million dollars,

You could cut the price if you hire illegals to build it.

3 posted on 08/23/2005 6:31:19 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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Wire fences are used for animals....because they don't know how to use wire cutters.


5 posted on 08/23/2005 6:32:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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Let the states build their own fences and if ANYBODY tries to tear them down, shoot them.

The states have the responsibility to their citizens BEFORE they owe any allegiance to a central federal system.


7 posted on 08/23/2005 6:35:20 AM PDT by hombre_sincero
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All they would do is cut a hole in the bottom of the fence. Or dig beneath it.


8 posted on 08/23/2005 6:35:43 AM PDT by sandbar
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What we need is to send people back once they get here.


9 posted on 08/23/2005 6:36:10 AM PDT by sandbar
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WAKE UP MR KING!


22 posted on 08/23/2005 6:44:05 AM PDT by downtoliberalism ("A coalition partner must do more than just express sympathy, a coalition partner must perform,")
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This idea of doing something that might actually work to stop illegal aliens from flooding into the United States is actually drawing great interest.

My proposal is a double-fence, privately funded and patrolled by packbots, or else Minutemen on four-wheelers. It would be awesome if landowners along the border could be persuaded to sell a 12' easement, without invoking imminent domain at all. Just think!

24 posted on 08/23/2005 6:45:27 AM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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Even if an effective fence cost $50 billion or more, it's a small price to stop the invasion of our country and small potatos compared to the billions in pork regularly squandered in D.C.


26 posted on 08/23/2005 6:51:08 AM PDT by reelfoot
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The fence is a good idea, but if we made it tougher for illegals who got here, then there would be less incentive to come over the border in the first place. Illegals should be denied welfare, drivers licenses, schooling for their kids etc. and if caught should not be given a free bus ride home, but rather jail time or at least some kind of sentence in a labor camp.


34 posted on 08/23/2005 7:02:23 AM PDT by The Great RJ (q)
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Screw a "fence", build a "WALL".

If the Israelis can, we can.

And if the above WALL is too 'offense', how about one like this..... we go 'old school', like the Joilet Prison


Naturally, no windows or doors on the outside

Going past that place as a kid on Sunday car rides scared the be-jeezus out of me. 'prolly' kept me from a life of crime :-)

36 posted on 08/23/2005 7:04:05 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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I wish he could be my congressman.


39 posted on 08/23/2005 7:05:10 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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I'd like him better if he would propose a law to do away with Mexican anchor babies citizenship retroactively. Then propose a law to deport all illegals.

What we are seeing from these politicians are wild ideas that appeal to desperate Americans wanting to save their country. However, this doesn't answer anything as to what is happening in our country right now. It's too late for a fence, this should have been done ten years ago. We need drastic laws passed and enforced, but I don't believe we have the politicians with the guts to clean up this country.

46 posted on 08/23/2005 7:09:40 AM PDT by swampfox98 (How American became a nation of traitors: Greed, corrupt politicians and religious leaders.)
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...........and we've got the cheap labor to build it too! [/s]

Sarcasm aside, THIS is an excellent idea!!!!!!!!!

52 posted on 08/23/2005 7:13:28 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!)
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Under the Army reorganization plan, the 1st Armored Division will be home stationed at Ft Bliss outside of El Paso. This will provide a great opportunity to practice border security operations for the Iraq mission.
Build a wall/earth berm/whatever, and then patrol it with combined elements of troopies and border patrol. Arrest or kill as appropriate.


58 posted on 08/23/2005 7:16:35 AM PDT by MadJack
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Razor wire will not work because the fences that have it now are just cut through at ground level.

The fence has to have sensors to detect such breaches.

I bet the fence can be made for less.


65 posted on 08/23/2005 7:31:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Excellent idea !!!!


72 posted on 08/23/2005 7:41:20 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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Ya know,
The Great Wall of China is starting to make sense ;)


77 posted on 08/23/2005 7:48:57 AM PDT by najida (I run with scissors and I don't play well with others.)
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Someone posted on the FR a few months back one of the best ideas.

Build a canal, similar to the Panama Canal, so wide is to make it difficult to traverse unnoticed. We could stick it to the Chinese at the same time by creating an even shorter route from the Atlantic to Pacific.

Hard to tunnel under something this deep. Stock it with Piranha just for fun. Even the liberals would like it because we could charge a toll for the evil big corporate ships passing through.

78 posted on 08/23/2005 7:49:00 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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a poem by Robert Frost entitled "Mending Wall"

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.

The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come on them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them mae or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there.

I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
"Stay where you are until our backs are turned!"
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.

Oh, just another kind of out-door game,
One on a side. It comes to little more:
He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says "Good fences make good neighbors."
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
"Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
Before I'd build a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down." I could say "Elves" to him,
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
He said it for himself. I see him there
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me,
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father's saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says it again, "Good fences make good neighbors."


102 posted on 08/24/2005 1:31:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? GOOOOGLE your own name. Want to have fun? GOOOOGLE your neighbor's......)
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