Posted on 08/21/2005 11:04:41 AM PDT by echoBoomer
.."Not in all my years had I ever seen anything quite so bizarre," Muhtar wrote in a recent column in the daily Sabah newspaper.
The women were wearing Islamic-style swimwear, which is becoming increasingly popular among Muslim women who want to bathe without baring their flesh. The outfit consists of a full body suit and hood that is pulled over a tightly fitted bonnet. A long vest completes the ensemble.
Muhtar's column has touched off a debate about the merits of such outfits in a country where most women wear Western-style swimwear, and some even go topless.
Yet the flurry of discussion has remained free of the politics engulfing the Islamic-style head scarf, which is banned in all Turkish government institutions and schools as a symbol of religious militancy. Rather, the emphasis has been on style.
"Silly, tasteless and weird," commentator Ahmet Hakan wrote in the daily Hurriyet.
Hakan's assertion that modest women should forgo swimming rather than make themselves ridiculous in such gear has angered some conservatives. Mustafa Karaduman, founder of Turkey's biggest Islamic-style fashion chain, Tekbir Giyim, or God Is Great Clothing, went so far as to suggest that Hakan was not a good Muslim.
All of this is welcome publicity for Mehmet Sahin, who while attending law school in 1993 designed his first modest bathing suit — not for women, but men.
"As a pious Muslim, I wanted to wear a bathing costume that did not cling to my genitals," he said in a recent interview. His baggy, mid-calf-length shorts became an instant hit with similarly religious-minded students. Sahin, who abandoned law, has since branched out into women's swimwear and now commands the country's largest Islamic swimwear empire, Hasema. His customers include the Turkish foreign minister's wife, Hayrunnisa Gul.
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What is this?
-- a kite
What holds it up?
-- the string
The string holds the kite up?
-- Yes, because if you drop the string, the kite will fall to the ground.
So, the string holds the kite down to earth, but also keeps allows it to soar up to the sky?
--Yes, just as our religon, laws and ethics hold us down, they also allow us to soar to great heights.
So we are allowed to post full text LA times articles?
Great news, if true.
My mother was going to an apostolic church for a while. They would rent the entire pool so that women could swim without men. They had to swim in blouses that went up to the neck, and ankle-length skirts. Not much difference here, and this is a christian church (although there are some - myself included - would dispute that).
A a pious American, I say that a "religion" that encourages the slaughter of innocent civilians in marketplaces and on buses, etc.,etc., is proof that they have no genitals.
The thought of that will put the recruitment quota way over the top.
The Red Cross and the Red Crescent had better get their life saving programs into high gear. These suits look like drowning machines to me.
I used to visit the Corniche in Al Khobar frequently when I visited. The Corniche is a beach park on the Gulf. It traverses miles up the urban coast and is extremely popular with families who come to the sea side. Although there is a beach, a wall of rip rap has been installed and the landside leveled and planted in grass and trees and shrubs. The corniche is a truly wonderful place, even at night.
The curious thing is that no one goes in the water. The saudi families spread their blankets and picnic makings on the grass, but the never venture in the water.
There is a large Philippino population and being islanders, they naturally love the sea. they venture over the riprap and fish and wade and swim. The Arabs get a big kick out of the Philippinos in the water.
The water is warm and smooth with virtually no wave action. There are no jet skis or sail boards or any of the water toys that could make the experience so much more enjoyable. The concept of a beach is only 10 or 15 years old so I guess it will take some considerable time to coax the desert dwellers into the water.
Think Victorian England and America. That is the norm. Today is the anomoly.
The resulting tidal wave of enraged hormones should ensure swift victory.
Not only that but enlistment in all branches of service should skyrocket!
Next comes the Wet Burka Contest.
Good parable *bump*!
Well taken, but that was 100 years ago+
They're both flashing lateral malleolus. Stone the wanton sluts for their lewd frolic.
Wonder if the Muslim women in this country will go swimming in them?
http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=9594
can woman show her breast to other woman? can we wear brassiere and cover from navel till knees and swim in ladies only pools?
If the satr of man and woman is the same i.e., from navel till knees, can one woman see the top of other woman? One of my friends while feeding her kid almost bares her breasts in the presence of us and when asked says breast is not part of women satr. Is this correct? Can we women show our breasts to other woman while changing our dress or feeding our kids? Moreover can we wear brassiere and cover from navel till knees and swim in ladies only pools?
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1. The Satar for men and women are different. The Satar of a woman is her entire body excluding feet and hands. It is prohibited for women to expose her breast to other women.
2. It is permissible for women to swim in private pools on condition the entire body is covered and there are no strange men around.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
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