Posted on 08/21/2005 1:18:04 AM PDT by MRMEAN
Compared with fields like genetics and neuroscience and cosmology, botany comes up a bit short in the charisma department. But when scientists announced last week that they had figured out how plants grow, one had to take note, not only because of the cleverness required to crack a puzzle that dates to 1885, but because of what it says about controversy and certainty in science -- and about the evolution debate.
In 1885, scientists discovered a plant-growth hormone and called it auxin. Ever since, its mechanism of action had been a black box, with scientists divided into warring camps about precisely how the hormone works. Then last week, in a study in Nature, biologist Mark Estelle of Indiana University, Bloomington, and colleagues reported that auxin links up with a plant protein called TIR1, and together the pair binds to a third protein that silences growth-promoting genes. The auxin acts like a homing beacon for enzymes that munch on the silencer. Result: The enzymes devour the silencer, allowing growth genes to turn on.
Yet biology classes don't mention the Auxin Wars. Again and again, impressionable young people are told that auxin promotes plant growth, when the reality is more complex and there has been raging controversy over how it does so.
Which brings us to evolution. Advocates of teaching creationism (or its twin, intelligent design) have adopted the slogan, "Teach the controversy." That sounds eminently sensible. But it is disingenuous. For as the auxin saga shows, virtually no area of science is free of doubt or debate or gaps in understanding.
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***I guess the US Constitution will have to go too, because the only political systems in scripture are monarchies.***
And what of your RIGHTS, Patrick Henrey?
Do they have to go to?
Since they are endowed by our Creator.
I was talking about your characterization of how evolution happens, not the results. Your version has never been part of science.
The unasked question does not exist - for it to be a question??? It (the question) must be asked, be it expressed or pondered for it to exist.
So which is faster light or dark? Which is heavier light or dark?
The question for this generation is why do we have to wait till afternoon to have a beer??? When will society recognize the nutritional value of beer so we can have it for breakfast?
Just an opinion question? Do you think that beer will ever make it onto the school lunch program? Why or why not?
My rights are guaranteed by the Constitution.
The Christian nations of Europe didn't seem to care much about God given rights, whereas the secular United States does a pretty good job. I don't see people being arrested for publishing political opinions.
Ask one tough question and about the "Orgin of Man" and can't get a serious response? Come on, the science is 150 years old.
Actually, the Bible says that before King Saul, ancient Israel was governed as a kind of oligarchy of judges (wise men), not a monarchy. Still, yours is a very good point.
What to you mean we,kemo sabe?
You wouldn't be taking the word of , would you? Is
the book you read?
You won't be able to produce the statement "Lucy, she is a chimpanzee" from anyone who is not a scientifically illiterate anti-evolutionist scammer.
You didn't ask a tough question. You asked a stupid question.
Evolution does not proceed the way you characterized it, so your question makes no sense.
suppose I asked you why god made all the trees with four legs and fur? Is that a tough question?
The unasked question does not exist - for it to be a question??? It (the question) must be asked, be it expressed or pondered for it to exist.
So which is faster light or dark? Which is heavier light or dark?
The question for this generation is why do we have to wait till afternoon to have a beer??? When will society recognize the nutritional value of beer so we can have it for breakfast?
Just an opinion question? Do you think that beer will ever make it onto the school lunch program? Why or why not?
Hello, those walking catfish have functional fins, don't they? What about the fossils of the inter-species?
Is that a lungfish?
Did you look at the chart I presented? It shows clearly that the second (in relative time) Homo sapiens show up, Homo erectus dies off. The fact that Homo erectus walked the earth for 2 million years proves they were a hardy bunch and survived several ice ages and had large brains. What happened?
You claim that inferior traits were breed out of Homo Erectus over time (no evolutionary jumps), however there is no proof of Homo Sapiens traits existing beyond 40,000 years (the missing link).
How long does it take in your book for a completely new species to breed out of the old? Surely, more than 40,000 years? Also, if a two million year old species "Homo erectus" was inferior and needed genetic modification to survive, why the extremely drastic change only 40,000 years ago?
Maybe they tasted like chicken?
Is there stupid gas in the air this morning> We start with a fabricated quote, descend into the land of hopeful monsters, meet up with Lucy the chip.
And along the way we are assured that walking catfish are too badly designed to survive. We should have roaches that are too badly designed to survive.
The most reasonable answer yet. LOL
Second, you guys have really got to find another hobby!
Where have I made any such claim?
It shows clearly that the second (in relative time) Homo sapiens show up, Homo erectus dies off.
The very second? My, what an informative chart. Does the chart say whether it was about tea time?
How long does it take in your book for a completely new species to breed out of the old? Surely, more than 40,000 years?
I don't know the answer to that, but you are factually wrong if you think there are only a few transitional fossils. At least thirty have been shown on these threads, many times. I don't have a link, but one will come along pretty soon.
Haa, haa... This gets confusing too. It is suspected/argued that Homo Sapiens actually might have been around for a couple of million years (fossil evidence overlaying dinosaur tracks, Paluxy River near Glen Rose).
What is mind boggling if they found a conclusive 200,000 old fossil proving Homo Sapiens existed, there are older ones yet to be found. The mind boggling part is why did human kind only get smart 10,000 years ago?
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