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Pope Talks Tough About Terrorism and Islam
LA Times ^
| 8/20/05
| TRACY WILKINSON
Posted on 08/20/2005 10:29:11 PM PDT by abu afak
COLOGNE, Germany -- Pope Benedict XVI chose unusually tough language Saturday to tell Muslim leaders they must work harder to combat terrorism and steer youth away from "the darkness of a new barbarism."
On the third day of his first foreign trip as pope, Benedict met with 10 representatives of Germany's growing Muslim community as part of his effort to reach out to other faiths. But he quickly dispensed with the diplomatic niceties and zeroed in on the "cruel fanaticism" of terrorism and the responsibility of religious leaders and educators to prevent it.
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"You guide Muslim believers and train them in the Islamic faith," he told his select audience, who traveled to the Cologne archdiocese to meet the pope. "Teaching is the vehicle through which ideas and convictions are transmitted. . . . There is no room for apathy and disengagement, and even less for partiality and sectarianism."
Benedict condemned terrorism as a "perverse and cruel decision" that "shows contempt for the sacred right to life and undermines the very foundations of all civil society." Terrorists, he said, falsely use religion to poison relations between all religions.
Benedict's meeting with the Muslims was held at the Cologne archdiocese and journalists were barred from attending, in contrast to the pope's high-profile visit to a synagogue the day before that was televised live.
His pointed remarks were made to a community with whom his relations were already strained and marked a departure from his exceedingly tolerant predecessor. As Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the pope had been quite critical of Islam in a number of his writings. Before and after becoming pope in April, he voiced alarm at the loss of Christian identity, especially in Europe, sacrificed to a modern multiculturalism that accommodates, among other diversities, Islam..."
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benedict; germany; islam; muslim; pope; ratzinger; terrorism; vatican
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posted on
08/20/2005 10:29:12 PM PDT
by
abu afak
To: abu afak
2
posted on
08/20/2005 10:35:59 PM PDT
by
spyone
To: SJackson; Alouette; Cindy; CHARLITE
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posted on
08/20/2005 10:39:23 PM PDT
by
abu afak
(abuafak@yahoo.ie)
To: abu afak
"No one would blame Christianity for terror acts committed by a Christian. But Muslims are always blamed," he said. "What else can we do to show the world that we are not born terrorists?" Hey Askar...see much of this? You Puke!
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posted on
08/20/2005 10:40:43 PM PDT
by
ncountylee
(Dead terrorists smell like victory)
To: abu afak
And being Muslim, they will listen to the Pope. I think we ought to have another crusade.
To: abu afak
Benedict condemned terrorism as [an act that] "shows contempt for the sacred right to life and undermines the very foundations of all civil society." NEWS FLASH!
Honestly, that's not exactly a new idea. I guess the Pope just had to say it before it was official, eh?
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posted on
08/20/2005 10:48:12 PM PDT
by
Phantasy
To: abu afak
What an interesting item!
I did not know that JPII was the first pope to visit a mosque.
"Why, God, are there different religions?" is answered only with "Isn't it interesting, though!"
Throw into the mix irreligion and, wow!, it's mind-boggling.
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posted on
08/20/2005 10:50:29 PM PDT
by
civis
(Six more days to payday?!?!?)
To: spyone
Thank God the wolrd isnt entirely populated with pussyfooting appeasers
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posted on
08/20/2005 10:58:07 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The roar of the masses could be farts)
To: abu afak
All I can say is the Holy Spirit certainly gave perfect guidance to the cardinals when they chose Benedict!
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posted on
08/20/2005 10:59:19 PM PDT
by
sageb1
(This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:00:59 PM PDT
by
Mo1
(Keep talking Cindy .. Tell us all what your true feelings of Israel are)
To: civis
I'll tell you one thing for certain. If I was in Germany for WYD, I would have slept on the bare ground, rather than set foot in a mosque to sleep.
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:01:28 PM PDT
by
sageb1
(This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
To: sageb1
You said it! Here's the the Pope!
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:05:23 PM PDT
by
civis
(Go to bed already!)
To: civis
Here's to the Pope, that is. Yes, yes, he's a wonderful man.
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:07:34 PM PDT
by
civis
(Go to bed already!)
To: abu afak
Pope John Paul was a man for his time (The Evil Empire). It certainly looks like Pope Benedict is and will be a man for his time (The Axis of Evil).
The Lord works in wondrous ways.
Leni
To: abu afak
"Terrorists, he said, falsely use religion to poison relations between all religions." Very true and well stated. Great to hear these words coming from the pope as well as his words regarding multiculturalism.
To the Muslim in the article who voiced concerns that as opposed to Christians, Muslims were always being blamed for terrorism, NEWSFLASH: there aren't any Religious Christian Terrorist organizations comparable to Alqaeda. There are NO Religious Christian Terrorist organizations period.
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:10:05 PM PDT
by
TAdams8591
(Member since December 1998)
To: abu afak
I heard the Pope's nickname is "Eggs".
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:10:17 PM PDT
by
zarf
To: abu afak
Rock On Bene!!!!! love ya Papa
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:13:13 PM PDT
by
wildcatf4f3
(whats wrong with a draft?)
To: jan in Colorado
that's how they make them in Bavaria! Bravo!
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:19:27 PM PDT
by
Fred Nerks
(Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
To: abu afak
Pope John Paul II Kissing the Koran
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/popekiss.html
KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.
KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********
HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.
WOMEN (and girls) IN ISLAM:
KORAN [2.223] Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.
KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion,
admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:67] Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [5:58:234] Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage).
Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:64] Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
THE JOOOOOOZ IN ISLAM:
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said,
"You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a
Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a
Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The
Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a
Jew behind me; kill him!' "
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the
Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a
Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a
Jew behind me."
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the
Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a
Jew behind me; come and kill him.
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The
Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a
Jew behind me; kill him.
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the
Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the
Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a
Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the
Jews.
© Religion of Peace
KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:22:57 PM PDT
by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
To: civis
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:28:37 PM PDT
by
Fred Nerks
(Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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