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To: Murtyo
Arthur Schopenhauer, Friedrich Nietzsche and Ayn Rand give so much prominence to the will that there was little left over for reason. Historians have referred to this triad as "irrational vitalists."

Either this guy is lying or just ignorant about Any Rand. She was a champion of reason. She despised people who did things by whim ( or "will" ) . She would have also pointed out that she is being called  an " irrational vitalist" without anyone defining the term. She complained plenty about Catholic dogma so she is fair game but I find it odd that they should pick her out of so many others thereby giving her prominence.

7 posted on 08/20/2005 9:04:14 PM PDT by Nateman (Rat rule of law: The law only applies to YOU. (Not us))
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To: Nateman

I thought that Rand was an unexpected inclusion in this list!! But I donno much about her at all.

I doubt that he's lying or ignorant though - the authors are coming at this from a very Christian/Catholic perspective and her reasoning that all our actions are selfish goes against Christianity!


8 posted on 08/20/2005 9:08:13 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Nateman
The author undermines his own argument by including Ayn Rand in his list. Her philosophy was the very antithesis of Marx's.

I don't know. Any book that treats Helen Gurley Brown as a philosopher is probably not to be taken seriously.

18 posted on 08/20/2005 9:46:51 PM PDT by giotto
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To: Nateman

Plenty of "Kill Terri" Nazis also think of themselves as "champions of reason."


23 posted on 08/20/2005 9:53:29 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Nateman
"Either this guy is lying or just ignorant about Any Rand. She was a champion of reason."

Well there goes any possibility that he may know about Ayn Rand than you do, or that he may be smarter than you.

As a highly successful author of 20 books and hundreds of articles written for scholarly journals, and as professor of philosophy and professor emeritus, DeMarco would hardly be 'ignorant'. The fact that he is a devout, practicing Catholic and is on the Advisory Board of The Catholic Educator's Resource Center means that he has a love for the truth and a great fear of lying. In fact, he believes his Judgement and eternity would be at stake if he lied to calumniate another person.

On the other hand Ayn Rand believed that selfishness is a virtue, and altruism is evil. As a militant atheist and firm believer that depravity was inherent in human nature, Ayn Rand had absolutely nothing but her self professed 'genius' to hold herself back from contradictions and lying. As we all learned from Bill Clinton and his lovely wife, 'genius' is no insurance against fraud.

I choose to believe Donald DeMarco.

30 posted on 08/20/2005 10:36:44 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: Nateman

I am rather surprised at the inclusion of Rand on the list. But before criticizing the author for this choice, it might be a good idea to read the book.


37 posted on 08/20/2005 11:28:09 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Member since December 1998)
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To: Nateman

Bill Buckley had many arguments with Rand (and Kokak, for that matter). He'd never have published anything in NR that reflected her darker side--which was considerably darker than "Atlas Shrugged" or "The Fountainhead." But even there, it's obvious that she championed ends-justifying means and a capitalism that rivaled communism in its militancy and cruelty.


44 posted on 08/21/2005 3:28:16 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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