No problem!
Posted on 08/20/2005 7:36:12 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
It was America that rescued Arafat from Lebanon when the Jews stopped his Jihad state that had killed over 100,000 people in Lebanon. It was America that put him in power in Israel over the Arabs, forced Israel to hand him whole cities including Bethlehem, America that gave him Billions of dollars to set up his terrorist kingdom again, and gave him weapons, and CIA sniper rifle training on how to shoot moving cars. It is America that is forcing Israel to hand over Gaza to them and America that is spearheading the return to the invasion lines of of the attempt to destroy the Nation at is birth by the Arab League.
Now I am ashamed of the mess that we have created in Israel, the million people we put into Islamic slavery and the blood of the Jews we helped flow freely, you however are on the other side of the fence. I suspect God forgives me, but in your case, you ignore the fruits of your efforts to cheer lead the destruction of Israel.
If you think I am "a condescending, pretentious a$$hole", think of what I think of a terorist sympathiser and supporter growing up in a free America and my sacrifice to defend your ass during vietnam.
Personally I think they should ship your ass to Palestine so you can live under the "freedom" that you espouse, and stop sucking up good Air in America.
Traitor.
I agree with #40, and raise you a savings for Israel in money, troops and blood. This is a win win situation. The Israelis have no one to deal with so they just did what they wanted without negotiating anything. If the Pali's say they want Jerusalem, the Israelis can say woa!, we already gave you Gaza, what's in it for me? Oh, so now the bombings start again? Well then no more land for you! This could be brilliant if it works. The Pali's will tear themselves apart trying to find a political movement to take on the Israelis, and the more radical they are, the more sympathy the Jews get.Israel should just ignore everything now, until the Pali's show something like disbanding the Hamas or Islamic Jihad. Without something from the Pali leadership(and you know that ain't happening), the Israelis can just ignore them. If they get nasty, then they retaliate without mercy.
robertpaulsen is a long-time Israel-hating troll. The best way to get rid of him is to not respond to his posts.
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Problem with this theory is that it hasn't worked for those territories already in Pal control. Israel goes in to quell the mortar attacks, and gets blamed for destabilizing and radicalizing the culture. Israel stiffens border security due to suicide attacks and gets blamed for impoverishing and demeaning the Pals.
The radicals have already sworn to use Gaza as a base for attacks on Israel. Israel is not going to sit by idly. It will retaliate, and it haters will have all the excuse they need to blame it for the coming failure of Gaza.
I doubt anything will be changed, except the right to live in Gaza will have been ceded. Disastrous policy.
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He sure does irritate me. What a marroon.
Thanks.
The Egyptians have already sent into Gaza their first 750 troops to replace the IDF
Well this is...interesting. I wonder when the 1st Egypian soldier will die?
I fully expect Prime Minister Sharon to ignore this President Bush when he turns against Israel the same way Prime Minister Shamir did to the last President Bush.
What makes you think he will "turn against Israel"?
Define "turn against Israel".
no flame intended.
good post. thanks
Understood, and you're welcome.
I hadn't realized the "transit issue" had to do with a land route between the territories. Think you're right - they need to say NO on both issues. Can't figure why some people are against this Wall, except that for some any annexation of West Bank territory is a no-on.
"I think you will find that most of your allies spy on you and vice versa"
Maybe true. But that doesn't mean we have to either like or accept it. We expect this kind of crap from the French, but Israel?
I understand that Israelis have a deep-seated belief that in the end, they can only count on themselves when the chips are down. I think they underestimate the amount of good will in the US for the survival of the State of Israel. Its one of the few things that can unite (most of the) Right and (most of the) Left. We're not like most other countries, where creeping anti-Semitism undermines the moral aspect of support for Israel.
This latest round of the oft-repeated scenario results in Israel giving up land and pride for empty promises, promises which are instantly broken. The pity is every thinking person with a historical perspective beyond 24 hours knows this whole affair is a political and PR farce. It is also a strategic disaster in that our enemies are emboldened. How many more deaths will this cause?
How many times in the past, after another land for peace deal with the Arabs, have I heard the phrases "This time we will hold them to account" or "We'll call their bluff". The nation of Israel, a microcosm for the entire civilized western world, has been steadily retreating, giving up territory so that US and European and Israeli liberals can feel good about their "quest for peace in our time".
What will be astounding to future scholars of the demise of western civilization is that we have the physical power to completely rout our evil enemies, but lack the will to apply that power. Has there ever been such a case in history: a nation walking a path to its own destruction when it had the might to avoid that path?
If the pre-1967 strategy was so successful, why was there a war in 1967 that necessitated the occupation in the first place?
No problem!
Got that right in a nutshell.
I'd hope, however, that Israel would consider India as well.
Another democracy under assault by Islam would make a wonderfully understand ally.
And their military R&D appears to be better off than China's. At least, on the naval side of things. Everything China has seems to be either bought by the Russian's or reverse-engineered from Russian equipment.
What's your beef? South Korea is our 'ally' and spies on us as much as the French. Why do we get so bent out of shape over Israel, but not South Korea? Why the double-standard?
And it doesn't make the press in the states, as South Korea doesn't have to go to America to spy. They have 35,000 US troops in their own country to spy on.
And that creeping Anti-Semitism has already seen the left in America climb in bed with the Islamofascists.
www.discoverthenetwork.org
That website is a wonderful tool in finding the relations between the leftist groups in America.
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