Posted on 08/20/2005 11:18:38 AM PDT by neverdem
SAN FRANCISCO, Aug. 19 - T. J. Parsell was a lanky pimple-faced adolescent bent on mischief. So when he found a toy gun one evening in 1978 while wandering home from a high school party, he thought nothing of pointing it at a store clerk and grumbling, "Your money or your life."
He got $50 for what he now calls "a stupid impulsive prank." The incident landed the 17-year-old Parsell in an adult jail, where on his first night, an older inmate spiked his drink with Thorazine and sexually abused and raped him.
"While my friends prepared for our high school prom, I was being gang raped," Mr. Parsell testified on Friday to a Congressional commission investigating prison sexual abuse and rape.
Mr. Parsell, now 45, and a successful software executive who lives on Long Island, was one of six victims of prison rape to relate disturbing accounts with a bipartisan panel of The National Prison Rape Elimination Commission here.
"What they took from me went beyond sex," Mr. Parsell said. "They'd stolen my manhood, my identity and part of my soul."
The panel, which also heard from state and federal legislators, law enforcement and prison officials and mental health experts, has been investigating the prevalence, cause and possible solutions to a problem that many experts say has escalated as the prison system is collapsing. Overcrowding, staff shortages and budget cuts have contributed to an often taboo topic.
"As a society, we have an obligation to protect the people we lock up, even though they have harmed society," the commission chairman, Judge Reggie B. Walton of Federal District Court in Washington, said. "Some people say inmates get what they deserve. But they don't think about the overall impact on society."
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The druggies were incarcerated which is what they deserved. The state did not administer the rape. The other scumbags in the prison administered the rape. The state should attempt to reduce rape in prison. In the meantime, the lesson is don't commit a crime or you will be raped and do some "hard" time.
Liberaltarian, Losertarian....same difference, just a bunch of folks that wanna get high and claim to be conservative at the same time.
"Liberaltarian, Losertarian....same difference, just a bunch of folks that wanna get high and claim to be conservative at the same time."
As opposed to guys who think that the more punishment you support meting out, even outside Constitutional guidelines, the more conservative you are?
Or as opposed to guys whose first response to someone who they disagree with is to namecall?
I'm a registered Republican, and I'm a Conservative, but I've got to say... I'm not proud of people who espouse the things that you are.
<< Those comments and attitude will go great on the liberals' posters to show how stupid conservatives are. >>
Rubbish.
Notwithstanding the Al Franken/Bill Moyers/Maureen Dowd depth of ignorance projected in and by jammer's comment, his ignorance does not come within a "Cooee" of your implication that liberals are capable of being influenced by anything beyond their own envy-motivated, hatred-engined and rage-driven self loathing!
"Surprising" is too generous a term. I would decscribe it as appalling, but writing such a word is not likely to change folks that want to brag about their disdain for criminals. It seems some of these folks can be the same ones who have little to no trust in gov't for surpressing exculpatory evidence, framing the innocent, bungling forensic tests, unconstitutional laws, etc. Go figure when jail rape in the age of HIV/AIDS can be a death sentence.
There ought to be a sentence where you can select solitary confinement...no human contact...for six to twelve months, and avoid the general criminal population problem of prison. Its stupid to put a tax evasion felon into a prison with murderers or rapists. There has to be more logic to this.
read about Joseph Duncan, child killer,and wonder if its our prisons that are making the sick and dememted among us WORSE......
its horrendous and it must stop.........
yes, both the rape environment and the attitude defending it is appalling.....
You are absolutely correct. Based upon everything I have heard from the cons I know (and I know quite a few), the first thing a white boy had better do upon arrival at prison is to "Klan up", i.e. become an instant Aryan Brotherhood member, or else he risks being turned into a black man's sex slave.
Uncomfortable? Yep. But that's reality. We mustn't run away from reality.
It's like the penalty that the Mabongo tribe has.
You see, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and Ted Kennedy were fact-finding in darkest Africa, and were captured by the Mabongo. They were brought before the chief, and first he addressed Ted.
"You have profaned our sacred lands," the chief intoned. "There are only two penalties, and the choice is yours: Death, or Bongo!"
Kennedy asked for a drink, which was refused, and then he decided. "Death is pretty final," he said. "Give me Bongo."
"Bongo!" shouted the chief, and the whole tribe began chanting "Bongo, Bongo, Bongo!," beating their drums, and behaving like, well, savages.
Then ten strapping Mabongo warriors came out and, one after another, had their way with the aged Senator. He was left in tears, but alive, and clutching his pants to hold them up, he shuffled off into the jungle.
The chief then fixed his beady eyes on John Kerry.
"I was in Vietnam," Kerry said.
"I know the Vietnamese," the chief said. "Taste like chicken. But enough stalling. You have profaned our sacred lands. It's up to you: Death, or Bongo!"
Kerry swallowed, which with his long turkey neck bought him a few seconds. He was not at all keen on being the date of ten strapping warriors (not unless they were very, very wealthy). For the first time in his life, he didn't want to be photographed -- with his luck the Swift Boat Veterans and POWs For Truth would get hold of it. But he wasn't eager to die. "Ted survived it," he thought, "and he's older and way out of shape." He reluctantly said, in a very low voice, "Bongo."
"Did you hear that!" crowed the chief. "Bongo!" The whole tribe began chanting "Bongo, Bongo, Bongo!," and beating their drums, and then the strapping Mabongo warriors came out.
But to Kerry's shock and dismay there were not ten warriors, but a hundred. And, one after another, had their way with the junior Senator. It was only his fitness-obsessed body that let him survive it (and his fondness for all things French that let him enjoy it a little). It took some time for him to rise up from the sacrificial altar, and, groaning, shuffle off into the jungle.
Bill Clinton observed this without a word, but his steel-trap Rhodes Scholar mind had closed on the idea that the next logical number in the sequence that begins 10, 100 is not a survivable Bongo session.
His lip quivered, but he faced the chief bravely, his lip quivering like it did when Hill choked up on the rolling pin. "Y'all don't need to give me your little speech," the ex-President announced. "I'll take Death!"
The chief rocked back on his bamboo throne, shocked for a moment into silence. Then he showed his teeth in a wide grin and announced: "Death... by Bongo!"
And the villagers began chanting "Bongo, Bongo, Bongo!," and beating their drums...
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
LOL. Extremely well done variation on the story!
true, but then add another sentence "Go to Mexico as a free man, else spend the next 25 years in Jail. If you're caught inside this country again, you will be summarily executed."
>Frankly, Prison rape is easy to avoid. Don't break the >f%#king law.
Not that easy with the War on Drugs. The feds know that is the public's Achilles Heal in regards to defending liberty. They know that the public will give up much to fight and lock up "those damned hippies." There is plenty of collateral damage from that war, and those people need to be protected from prison rape.
Everyone currently knows that pot, cocaine, meth, and heroin cannot be legally possessed. Everyone knows that drugs like Xanex, Oxycontin, and other prescription drugs cannot be legally possessed without a prescription from a physician. Everyone knows that it is illegal to sell these drugs, or to transfer possession of prescription drugs to someone for who they are not prescribed. The laws are clear. If you choose to violate the law, then what room do you have to complain about the punishment for doing so.
Also, everyone has heard of what it is like to be in prison among bad people who have no hesitation to do bad things, even while they are incarcerated. Given that this knowledge exists, a person who chooses to risk prison by breaking the laws currently on the books has nobody but him or herself to blame for placing him or herself in the position to begin with.
Childish incoherence. Ahhh, you disagree? Well, let the readers decide. I pity you and those who live with you.
You can partly heal and recover from rape...there is no recovery from death.
Its the deliberate attempt to rob a person of their soul.
Yes, it is. But the rapist doesn't always succeed.
If he kept the money, it wasn't a prank. Amazing that he's still in denial that he ever robbed anyone.
LOL! Clinton tries to be a weasle. I'm shocked, shocked!
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