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"Senator admits that his bill may eventually lead to independence for state..."

1 posted on 08/17/2005 4:29:01 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

The Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma may want to re-write the terms of soveregnty as well. A good portion of Oklahoma would have to secede of course. And as a separate nation would NOT be obliged to pay property or income tax to the US. Thank you.


2 posted on 08/17/2005 4:34:26 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: kaehurowing
Natives, who are now only about 20 percent of the state population, worry that their special institutions are in danger of being swallowed up, and that's where the Akaka Bill comes in.

Senator DANIEL AKAKA (Democrat, Hawaii): It creates a government-to-government relationship with the United States. KASTE: Democratic Senator Dan Akaka, himself a native, wants Congress to let Hawaiians re-establish their national identity. He says his bill would give them a kind of legal parity with tribal governments on the mainland, but he says this sovereignty could eventually go further, perhaps even leading to outright independence.

What about the other 80 percent of the citizenry and other minorities like the Japanese? Would the "country" end up like Puerto Rico or some Indian Reservation dependent on the other US taxpayers for goods and services? Questions that need answers.

Having said that, they are seeing what the hammer of the Federal government can do when they get involved with every aspect of everyday life, such as education of your children.

3 posted on 08/17/2005 4:39:03 PM PDT by CedarDave (Five years a freeper today - 08/17/00)
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To: kaehurowing

Okay, if they want to take their star off my flag, who's going to replace it? Canada? Mexico?

Darn! These choices suck!


4 posted on 08/17/2005 4:40:38 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: kaehurowing

When does the casino open? That's the real issue, I'm sure.


5 posted on 08/17/2005 4:42:29 PM PDT by neodad (I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast, for I intend to go in harm's way)
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To: kaehurowing

When the ChiComs come sailing within range of the Hawaiian Islands, and the flashbacks of another Oriental fleet attacking at dawn begins to haunt the natives, they'll be flying the Stars & Stripes and screaming for military assistance from Washington so fast, it will all become a blur. The economic and political "advantages" that a few seperatists may believe will blossom if Hawaii secedes will be far outweighed when they suddenly realize that all of Uncle Sam's cash and handouts go bye-bye, as does the U.S. military presence.

Ain't gonna happen. Not in our lifetimes, and probably not in the next.


7 posted on 08/17/2005 4:44:21 PM PDT by Mad Mammoth (Gunny Ermey: "What do you MEAN, IF Jesus was a Marine? He IS a MARINE! The Toughest One Of Em All!")
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To: kaehurowing

Hawaii is a crime-ridden blue state. No big loss, except maybe for the Democrats. We can replace it with one of the Canadian provinces where the residents are still sane.


8 posted on 08/17/2005 4:44:59 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: kaehurowing
BUMPY KANAHELE: My Hawaiian name is U'u Koanoa...


10 posted on 08/17/2005 4:49:59 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: kaehurowing

Great so they can then be taken over by China who then won't need to build a carrier will they?


11 posted on 08/17/2005 4:52:04 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: kaehurowing

The Apology Resolution was another great piece of liberal legislation drawn up while Democrats were still in control of Congress, and 9/11 Bill was in the W.H. Its the same blindingly ignorant solution to a problem as what Sharon just did in Israel today. All it did was embolden the natives to want more, more, more. The WSJ article sets the record straight. Below is an excerpt.

http://opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007117

The Apology Resolution distorted historical truths. It falsely claimed that the U.S. participated in the wrongful overthrow of Queen Liliuokalani in 1893. The U.S. remained strictly neutral. It provided neither arms, nor economic assistance, nor diplomatic support to a band of Hawaiian insurgents, who prevailed without firing a single shot, largely because neither the Native Hawaiian numerical majority nor the queen's own government resisted the end of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The queen authored her own ouster by planning a coup against the Hawaii Constitution to recapture monarchical powers that had been lost in a strong democratic current. She later confided to Sen. George Hoar that annexation to the U.S. was the best thing that could have happened to Native Hawaiians.


12 posted on 08/17/2005 5:18:16 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Pray for America like its future depended on it, because it does!)
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You'll find no more potent symbol of Hawaiian independence than 'Iolani Palace, a Victorian-style mansion in downtown Honolulu.

Yep, there's nothing more "Hawaiian" than a Victorian Mansion.

13 posted on 08/17/2005 5:21:09 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: kaehurowing

I think China may be behind this.


15 posted on 08/17/2005 5:46:41 PM PDT by virgil
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To: kaehurowing

Secession is fine. Less pork to spend and fewer votes for liberals. The problem is they would stop short of total independence so they could continue to receive tax dollars and influence federal elections.


17 posted on 08/18/2005 4:57:35 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters
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