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Freedoms Lost

Posted on 08/17/2005 9:44:04 AM PDT by unreal

Can anyone list the "freedoms we lost" from the Homeland Security and Patriot Act?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: damties; dumbquestion; dutroll; gotzot; moonbat; rats; zot; zotbait; zotmeagain; zotmebaby; zotmedaily; zotmehard; zotmetillipuke; zotsfortots
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To: unreal

61 posted on 08/17/2005 10:22:35 AM PDT by PilloryHillary (Eva Peron + Chappaqua = Hillary Clinton)
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To: Bear_Slayer
Have you been taking come-back lessons from Pee Wee Herman?

Is that you Pee Wee?

62 posted on 08/17/2005 10:22:42 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

I thought so?


63 posted on 08/17/2005 10:24:01 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (Montani semper liberi !)
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To: Bear_Slayer
Are you just some a$$hole looking to harrass those that are new and post questions you don't approve of?

If I am mistaken about the trollishness of the poster, I am in good company.

Read the replies.

64 posted on 08/17/2005 10:25:05 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58; Bear_Slayer

Please knock off the personal stuff.


65 posted on 08/17/2005 10:26:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: rwa265
I'm more interested in the security we've gained.

If your afraid; buy a gun, move to a rural area, and stay in your home, but don't screw with the United States Constitution.

66 posted on 08/17/2005 10:30:13 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Bear_Slayer

My apoligies Bear_Slayer, you mean well and so do I.


67 posted on 08/17/2005 10:30:19 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Realism

Well said.


68 posted on 08/17/2005 10:30:45 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (Montani semper liberi !)
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To: unreal

The illusion that my feet don't smell when I go through the airport today. Wow I gotta get me some Odor Eaters!


69 posted on 08/17/2005 10:31:46 AM PDT by rip033 (.)
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To: unreal
What freedoms did we have before?

Seriously, the highest percentage of the population incarcerated in the world, no-knock warrants, the war on drugs, the war on cash, eminent domain, wiretaps, "know your customer", the IRS, etc, etc, etc ....

I guess the Patriot Act just made it slightly easier to trample the Bill of Rights, but that's really about it.

70 posted on 08/17/2005 10:36:30 AM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

GREAT picture.


71 posted on 08/17/2005 10:37:43 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Brick by brick, stone by stone, the Revolution grows)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Waited a whole week to post this screed?

My thoughts exactly

72 posted on 08/17/2005 10:40:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Brick by brick, stone by stone, the Revolution grows)
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To: superiorslots
1.) Even most Donks hate the idea of a Hillary presidency, so IMO she ain't gonna make it.

2.) No more than the Bush administration is using the PA against lefties, IOW not at all.

Paranoia runs deep...

73 posted on 08/17/2005 10:41:05 AM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: superiorslots

3.) WTF did your reply have to do with my post #54?


74 posted on 08/17/2005 10:42:03 AM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: Stu Cohen
I guess the Patriot Act just made it slightly easier to trample the Bill of Rights, but that's really about it.


Isn't it amazing how so many people who have hissy fits about the Patriot Act think Campaign Fiance Reform is "brilliant" legislation?

So apparently in Hysteric Leftists land, giving billionaires like George Soros undue influence in our elections is GOOD, making it harder for Islamic Terrorists to kill us is BAD!

More proof why it is just not safe to vote for a Democrat any more.
75 posted on 08/17/2005 10:43:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Brick by brick, stone by stone, the Revolution grows)
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To: metesky

Quote: 3.) WTF did your reply have to do with my post #54?



Actually nothing. Your writings mean didly squat to me. Your post was just the last in line and I posted.


76 posted on 08/17/2005 10:49:10 AM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: Bear_Slayer
Well said.

Thanks..... Some posters need to realize that when the government says its for our own good, thats reason enough to be leery. Especially when it comes to Federal law.

77 posted on 08/17/2005 10:49:58 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Graybeard58; Bear_Slayer
Ok now that we got the usual stawman about "Stifling a valid question" out of the way. BTW, What does the US Constitution have to do with what can, and cannot, be said on a PRIVATELY OWNED forum? Please answer the the question this thread is really about

i>Name one freedom you have lost as a result of the Patriot act?

I am really interested in hearing your answers

78 posted on 08/17/2005 10:51:45 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Brick by brick, stone by stone, the Revolution grows)
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To: Realism; Bear_Slayer
Thanks..... Some posters need to realize that when the government says its for our own good, thats reason enough to be leery. Especially when it comes to Federal law.

Ever pause to consider that blind opposition to everything because a "Government" say it is every bit as intellectually indefensible as blind acceptance of the same?

79 posted on 08/17/2005 10:54:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Brick by brick, stone by stone, the Revolution grows)
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To: unreal
1355 hrs EST, I just missed, darn.

5.56mm

80 posted on 08/17/2005 10:56:04 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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