Posted on 08/16/2005 11:23:20 AM PDT by woodb01
The Cult of Evolution the Opiate of the Atheists
evolution is based on superstitious religious secular fundamentalism
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Evolutions basic premise is that all life on the planet miraculously emerged through a bunch of accidents. Current evolution teaches that natural selection is how we continue to evolve.
Unfortunately for evolutionists their recent beliefs have been challenged on interesting grounds. A new theory has come about to challenge the blind faith orthodoxy of the evolutionists, that theory is intelligent design.
Think of it like this, evolution believe that if you have a deck of 52 cards and two jokers, and then shuffle the deck thoroughly, and throw the entire deck up in the air as high as you can, that eventually all of the cards will land, in perfect order, and perfectly aligned. The probability of this even happening one time in a billion years approaches zero. Then, to believe evolutionary "theory," you have to accept on blind faith that this same miracle of perfect order from total chaos has repeated itself millions of times to account for each of the plants, animals, and life on earth. We'll leave it there for now. It gets a WHOLE LOT MORE COMPLICATED for the evolutionary cult. On the other hand, intelligent design says that after the evolutionist throws the cards up in the air and makes a mess, the intelligent designer comes along and carefully picks up each card and stacks them all up together, in sequence, and properly aligned.
Stepping back from evolution long enough to use critical thinking skills not taught much in public education these days, it becomes quickly apparent that evolution is nothing but a silly religious belief a type of secular fundamentalism demanding cult-like superstitious faith in the impossible. If I have your attention, lets take a careful look at what evolution requires us to accept on complete blind faith:
These are just a few of the major problems for the cult of evolution. They are certainly not the least of the problems. For example, under the accidents of evolution, where do emotions come from? Where does instinct come from? Why do humans have the ability to reason and understand right from wrong? And the list goes on. None of these innate characteristics can be explained by evolution.
Evolution is not science, because it can not be tested, verified, and there are no false results. The only false result to evolution is Intelligent Design (ID) because the theory of ID proves that evolution is false and therefore evolution adherents attack ID proposals with zealous fundamentalism.
Has anyone ever seen how zealously these evolutionary secular fundamentalists irrationally attack competing theories without answering the underlying problems with their beliefs?
Evolutionists routinely dodge issues like the origins of the universe because they know that if you stop and think hard about these issues, evolution falls apart as nothing but a widely held religious belief. If you can't explain where the raw material for the inputs to the "evolutionary process" come from, then you have no process. If you can't tell me how life started, and where its components came from, what the specific components were, what specific accident created life, then you have no process, only religious belief.
When you refuse to evaluate the inputs to a process, you have an incomplete process, it is unverifiable, and therefore un-provable, un-knowable, and an un-testable theory from a scientific perspective. You MUST at that point insert your suppositions and BELIEFS (i.e. secular fundamentalist religious beliefs) into the process. This is where it is no longer science, but superstition and blind religious faith.
It is understandable evolutionists would avoid many of these difficult questions because it exposes the preposterous "blind faith" required to accept evolution.
The cult of evolution is the opiate for the atheists.
Evolution is an atheists way to excuse their denial and rejection of god, it is their religion. To the degree that evolutionists dodge the difficult questions, like the origins of life's raw materials, how the five senses came about (how did one-celled organisms get the "idea" that senses were even needed?), how or why or where emotions come from, or a whole host of other questions, proves that it is not science, but secular fundamentalism. To the extent that evolutionists challenge competing theories such as Intelligent Design rather than answering the difficult questions or admitting that their theory has holes, it is not a scientific theory subject to the scientific process, but a cult based on zealous secular fundamentalism.
And on one hand, evolutionists expect you to believe that through a bunch of "accidents" life happened and "evolved" and then later, just the OPPOSITE takes place in the form of "natural selection." In other words, the "accidents" of life lead to deliberate selection. Under "natural selection" the "great god of evolution" decides who is the strongest and smartest and everyone else must be subjected to the superior race. Sounds a lot like what Hitler's National SOCIALISTS believed to me.
No amount of proving atheism, er, I mean evolution wrong will ever satisfy the secular fundamentalist religious cult of evolution. Even when those who support the theory of Intelligent Design are willing to engage in a dialog on the issue, the secular fundamentalists come out of the woodwork and shriek from the high heavens about how they refuse to prove one iota of their religious philosophy, but demand that ANYTHING that dares challenge their orthodoxy must be proven beyond any doubt. This is the essence of religious zealotry and blind religious fundamentalism--, it is the opiate of the atheists...
If those who adhere to evolution are genuinely interested in science, then they must evaluate the whole process, and if the inputs to that process, or many of its components such as the senses or emotions do not support the process then they must reject that theory (evolution) as unworkable. To do anything less is no longer science. But then again, evolutionists are not really interested in science.
Call me weak minded but I just don't have the blind, zealous, fundamentalist faith to believe that nothing created everything (the "Big Bang") and that life just spontaneously erupted from rocks, water, and a few base chemicals (evolution) through a bunch of "weird science" accidents. Step back, stop and actually THINK about the leaps of un-provable, totally blind-faith that evolution requires and unless you're one of its religious zealots, you too will reach the conclusion that evolution is a FRAUD!
Evolution, the opiate for atheists and the biggest hoax and fraud ever perpetrated on the Western World in History...
Additional Resources:
DNA: The Tiny Code That's Toppling Evolution (DNA is PROVING that evolution is a hoax)
The controversy over evolution includes a growing number of scientists who challenge Darwinism. (The fraud of Darwinism...)
Einstein Versus Darwin: Intelligent Design Or Evolution? (Most LEGITIMATE Scientists do NOT agree with Evolution)
Whats the Big Secret? (Intelligent Design in Pennsylvania)
What are the Darwinists afraid of? (The fervent religious belief in evolution)
The Little Engine That Could...Undo Darwinism (Evolution may be proven false very soon)
If you understood anything about evolution you would realise that a modern mammal fossil found in the cambrian would make as much sense for evolution as 1 + 1 = 3
Yes of course such a thing hasn't been found. If it had these evolution threads would have disapeared a long time ago.
This is about potential fossils.
Any potential fossil would fit ID. Even the most ludicrous fantastical fossil would fit ID.
Yet many potential fossils, in fact I dare say most potential fossils would present major problems for evolution. The modern mammal in the cambrian senario is a case of a major problem beyond resolution.
Wrong. Populations of oganisms can be observed to CHANGE.
Do you have some method of proving that those changes have not been orchestrated by an unseen intelligent force?
Just because you don't think that intelligence was involved, and you can't think of any way to prove that it was or wasn't, is NOT PROOF that it was indeed "evolution".
I, on the other hand, can prove with absolute certainty that intelligent design exists, in great abundance and variety.
So my question to you stands. Can you prove that undirected evolution exists in any way, shape, or form?
A breath of fresh air.
Not so. You can very easily prove that gravity exists. You can observe it, without fail, with any number of different test. You can predict exactly where it will be found, and exactly how much of it will be found there. And your predictions will be found to be accurate each and every time. And all of this with great precison.
Not that anyone needs an example, but I learned something intersting from a co-worker whose daughter works at JPL on some of the missions to Mars. One of her functions is to calculate the gravitational effects of the rotation of the Earth's liquid core at the time of launch, and how that is going to change the trajectory of the mission package.
Very good question!
In the context of this discussion, GRAVITY is analogous to CHANGE (in organisms).
We can prove that Gravity exits, and we can prove that Change happens (exists).
Where the Theory of Evolution, and the Theory of Intelligent Design come in, is the WHAT and HOW.
We can Theorize about WHAT gravity is, and how it works. And we can Theorize about WHAT mechanism causes the changes in organisms, and how it works. But at this point in time, we have no proof of the WHAT and HOW, of either Gravity or the Change in Organisms.
Neo-Darwinism is random wrt fitness; it has no goal, and lacks any intelligence.
- The Current Law of Naturalism (as I see it)
Here we have a belief statement from science that treads on many other beliefs but allows atheists who preach atheistic science,... comfort.
But we can look at the theories and the influence such as - the theory of gravity does not become sociobiology the theory of gravity does not have memes the theory of gravity does not worry itself with beliefs from any side of the id/evo/creo/ equation.
Now if anyone should equate gravity and neo-darwinism they should offer that we survive only because we now stick to the earth and those that did not, floated into space and died.
hehehehehe Not fair, I was just going to say EXACTLY the same thing...
Dang it, you stole my thunder...
Its my question: Why is science studying the origin of life at all? Arent such studies pointless, scientifically speaking? Its my understanding origins is properly a subject for study by theology or philosophy, Science being a materialistic discipline, unable to make meaningful judgments about other things. Thats true isnt it? Can I get a straight answer to an uncomplicated question? If you need to qualify or equivocate a little bit, please feel free - I wont accuse you of lying.
The story is appearing all over; its in the Sidney World Herald, in the UK Guardian, in the Houston Chronicle, USA Today, CNN, and many others, Im sure. The Boston Globe has the biggest article, and a lot of the others seem to have based their report on the Globe version.
The Boston Globe
Project on the origins of life launched
Harvard joining debate on evolution
By Gareth Cook, Globe Staff
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/08/14/project_on_the_origins_
On what do you base this? A USA Today article?
Cant trust them papers, huh? Well, heres your chance to set the record straight. You have the name of the reporter, so you can email the bovine scatological ignoramus, and his equally mentally retarded editor, and square them both away on the gratuitous addition of material potentially embarrassing to the Science Community, or their failure to edit out some of the more careless statements made by scientists. You have such an enchanting manner about you when you are correcting others errors, that almost assuredly they (the editor and the reporter) will be charmed into a response, confessing who it was that screwed up in leaving too many dots around to be connected.
Personally, I think the articles are probably accurate. You have to remember who MSM pukes cuddle up to, and who they scorn and shun. Imagine their elation when they were told that its just a matter of a few years and the existence of God will be definitively disproved, and that it will be known authoritatively that we all came from a mud puddle. This would just be too good of news not to be passed on largely unretouched. It is IDers, other Bible-thumpers and Jesus-freaks, and knuckle-dragging conservatives generally, who are greeted with hostility and disdain, and whose stories are spiked or distorted.
We start with a mutual acknowledgment of the profound complexity of living systems, said David R. Liu, a professor of chemistry and chemical biology at Harvard. But my expectation is that we will be able to reduce this to a very simple series of logical events that could have taken place with no divine intervention.
Without divine intervention? This is the reason for OOL (origin of life) research
It seems science has found a motive and philosophy.
Galileo and Newton both believed in an intelligent cause. The Design Theory has been around for over two millennia and was scientifically and philosophically concluded by thinkers without any Judeo-Christian beliefs
I know you werent. But, there just arent all that many candidates; the reporter (and maybe his editor), and the scientists with whom he spoke. Like that elephant in the room, the connections are there in the article - thanks to either the scientist(s) who said it, or the reporter who wrote it on his own (unless you want to blame errant quantum particles).
. . . you have 0% evidence of that.
I have the article. I have the other articles Ive researched:
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/08/14/project_on_the_origins_
The Boston Globe
Project on the origins of life launched
Harvard joining debate on evolution
By Gareth Cook, Globe Staff
On the basis of the articles, its perfectly reasonable to accept the reportage as information imparted by the scientists, and preferable to asserting that some journalist made an ignorant claim as you did in an earlier post.
But whichever it is, the article makes it clear that a great amount of money and effort will be poured into an attempt to determine the origins of life and to prove that God doesnt exist. A sort of abiogenesis Manhattan Project. Maybe we could call it the Cambridge Project? Probably not. Better to wait in case the project is located at a cite remote from the Cambridge campus.
Is this project real science? Does it deal with matters appropriate to science? Or does it actually belong in the Divinity Dpt or the Philosophy Dpt? It looks like its going to be 100% a science undertaking.
Amen!
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(Near the bottom of page.)
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