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Grim Iraq reality dawns for Bush
Washington Post, via The Standard (Hong Kong) ^ | August 16, 2005 | Robin Wright and Ellen Knickmeyer

Posted on 08/16/2005 7:13:40 AM PDT by Brigadier

``We set out to establish a democracy, but we're slowly realizing we will have some form of Islamic republic,'' said another US official familiar with policymaking from the beginning.

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To: Brigadier

The adjective idiot does not apply to this war, but it does apply to many who can't understand it.

The war in Iraq is more popular in Iraq than in the US because more Iraqis do understand.


241 posted on 08/16/2005 10:07:05 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: johnb838

'Republic' is an awfully loose word. China is a 'republic', Iraq was a 'republic', France is a 'republic', Rome was a republic. England is not a republic. Seems all 'republic' really means is no royal family.

America is a democracy, we choose our leaders. If that's not democracy then what is? Unless you feel, like Chomsky and other folk on the extreme left [and right], that elections count for nothing and are only theater played out by the ruling elites to pacify the masses.

If we are not a democracy then I guess you don't bother votng.


242 posted on 08/16/2005 11:41:30 PM PDT by cambridge ( I was sympathetic to her before I was against her.)
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To: AmericanVictory
"What fuels the `creep of Islam?'"

Good question...one I think that goes to the heart of the matter. And there are several points of view one might consider.

First, from a practical point of view, since Islam is designed to clash with other religions, it will either shrink into non-assimilation and standoffishness or it will spread with the idea of having others assimilate into it (conversion, by choice or force)...both are not only functional parts of Islam but are dictated by the Quran. Also, the Quran clearly states that ultimately Islam must be the only religion in the world...and that leads to the establishment of the World Caliphate. That is the goal of all "real" (read "devout") muslims.

Secondly, islam creeps into a society by the call to true Islam by devout Muslims and imams ("Dawa" is the call to non-muslims, but it is also a call to lax and apostate muslims). Islam, at its heart, is not moderate (not the Islam of the Quran and of Mohammed). This call by real muslims to "moderate" or "apostate" muslims is particularly compelling since it is a call to come back to the god of your family and your fathers.

Thirdly, one has to ask if Islam is a real religion, i.e. is Allah a spiritual force...does he exist? If one imagines that Allah is the spiritual force that spoke to Mohammed and guided Mohammed, one can conclude by reviewing the life of Mohammed that Allah, if he exists, is not a benign force. Mohammed's life was filled with violence, piracy, rape, and greed. Not exactly holy to say the least. At any rate, if their is a spiritual force named Allah, one might conclude that such force has a motive in the spread of Islam and works within Islam and in the minds of the serious believers of Islam to spread this religion. I will leave the determination of potential motives to you...but you see where such a thing seems to be heading.

243 posted on 08/17/2005 5:53:07 AM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: AmericanVictory
See this article on FR...

Defining Women (in Iraq)

It illustrates (much better than I can) the actions of the "creeps" of Islam.

244 posted on 08/17/2005 6:26:11 AM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: RnMomof7

Exactly.


245 posted on 08/17/2005 6:44:12 AM PDT by sheltonmac (QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES)
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To: RnMomof7

Well said. Good points.


246 posted on 08/17/2005 4:20:02 PM PDT by ValenB4 ("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
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