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Far-Rightists Target 'Judeo-Nazis' in the Ukraine
Union ^ | 12.08.2005

Posted on 08/15/2005 12:39:03 PM PDT by jb6

Ukrainian nationalists have asked President Viktor Yushchenko to open criminal proceedings against "judeo-Nazis" in Ukraine, singling out Chabad rabbis and the main work of Chabad hassidic literature, the Tanya, according to the web – site of the Federation of Jewish Communities of the CIS.

In an open letter to Yushchenko, members of the Ukrainian Conservative Party and several far right-wing editors demanded that Jews be prevented from teaching the Tanya in Jewish schools and synagogues, so as to stop the spread of "this misanthropic religious system."

At the Ukrainian Embassy in Tel Aviv, cultural attache Maksym Osavoliuk said on Wednesday that his government would investigate the incident.

"Our official stance is to fight anti-Semitism and xenophobia as much as possible," he said.

Jewish organizations, meanwhile, warned of a possible escalation in anti-Semitism. Only a few weeks ago in Dnepropetrovsk, two synagogues were vandalized.

"This is not a sporadic event, but part of the long-term activity of anti-Semitic groups," said Eduard Dolinsky, executive vice-president of the United Jewish Community of Ukraine. "We are constantly fighting against this sort of thing."

Those involved are tied to the Interregional Academy of Personnel Management (known in Ukraine by its acronym, MAUP), a sizable college and unabashedly anti-Semitic publishing house. MAUP recently presented a blacklist of "media and organizations who distribute and defend or support Jewish racism, Judeo-Nazism and Jewish organized crime in Ukraine." In June, its conference titled "Dialogue of Civilizations: Zionism as the Greatest Threat to Contemporary Civilization" attracted the likes of white supremacist and former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke.

The campaign is strikingly similar to letters sent to the Russian authorities earlier this year, signed by members of Parliament and academia, which attempted to outlaw other Jewish religious books as inhumane and claimed that Jews had staged anti-Semitic attacks to besmirch the name of patriotic Russians.

The Federation of Jewish Communities in the Commonwealth of Independent States, which criticized the Russian government at the time for practically ignoring that campaign, called on Ukraine to hold those involved accountable for inciting hatred against Jews.

"Surely those responsible are saying, 'In Russia they got away with it, so we'll get away with it in Ukraine,'" said Rabbi Avraham Berkowitz, executive director of the FJC.

"We will turn to the president and prime minister to ask them to denounce the parliamentarians involved," he added. "They must be held accountable, even if they are minority members. Serious repercussions have to come from this."

The letter could revive concerns about Yushchenko's commitment to protecting the country's Jewish population.

According to The Kyiv (Kiev) Post, Yushchenko, Foreign Minister Borys Tarasyuk and Finance Minister Viktor Pynzenyk have previously served on MAUP's board of trustees. Some Jewish groups defended Yushchenko, however, noting that he had gone to Auschwitz for the commemoration of the 60th anniversary of its liberation, and that he joins a Kiev synagogue each year to light Hanukka candles.

One of Yushchenko's defenders was Ukrainian Chief Rabbi Yaakov Bleich, who told The Jerusalem Post in March that Yushchenko "is definitely not anti-Semitic, but he is maybe too tolerant of people who are."

Bleich is also one of the public Jewish figures named in the letter (although he is not a Chabadnik), and has been the frequent target of MAUP's criticism in the past


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To: spanalot
Radio Free Europe:

UKRAINIAN NATIONALISTS WANT COMRADES OUT OF JAIL. Some 50 members of the Ukrainian National Assembly-Ukrainian National Self-Defense (UNA-UNSO) picketed the presidential administration building on 17 June, demanding that the authorities release 13 UNA-UNSO supporters who were jailed following clashes with riot police during an anti-presidential protest in March 2001, UNIAN reported. UNA-UNSO leader Andriy Shkil, who was elected to the Verkhovna Rada in the 31 March election, was released from jail in April. "The day of reckoning will come -- the UNA-UNSO people will be free while Kuchma will be behind the bars," one of the picket's slogans read. JM

21 posted on 08/15/2005 3:15:53 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Alouette

The Guardian December 15, 2004


Ukraine: Ultra-right groups support Yushchenko

Justus Leicht

In its enthusiasm for the Ukrainian opposition, the Western media 
has conveniently overlooked the fact that ultra-right groups are 
active inside the opposition movement known as the "Orange 
Revolution".

Members of fascist organisations represent a small minority among 
opposition supporters and have not played a leading role in the 
ongoing demonstrations in Kiev. Nevertheless, their participation 
in the mass rallies is not coincidental.

They are neither unwanted fellow travellers, nor troublemakers 
smuggled in by the regime of President Leonid Kuchma. Both of the 
most prominent opposition leaders, former prime minister Viktor 
Yushchenko and multi-millionaire and former deputy prime minister 
Yulia Tymoshenko, have maintained political relations for several 
years with organisations that have expressed and defended fascist 
and anti-Semitic viewpoints.

Alongside anti-communists, neo-liberals and Christian Democratic 
parties, Yushchenko's parliamentary group "Our Ukraine" includes 
an organisation calling itself the "Congress of Ukrainian 
Nationalists" (KUN).

The KUN was founded in 1992 as the political exile organisation 
of the "Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists — Stepan Bandera 
fraction". The followers of Bandera espouse a fascist ideology 
and a militantly anti-communist, anti-Russian and anti-Polish 
policy.

Bandera's movement fought in the Second World War — initially on 
the side of Nazi Germany against the Soviets — and demanded 
"independence" for the Ukraine in those regions invaded by the 
German army.

Following the conquest of Ukraine, the Nazis no longer needed the 
assistance of "Slavic sub-humans". They rejected independence for 
Ukraine and began to persecute Ukrainian nationalists.

The Bandera faction was forced to oppose the German army, but 
during and after the war it focused its activities against the 
Soviet army.

This is the tradition which the KUN represents.

Up until July of this year, Yushchenko's "Our Ukraine" included a 
second fascist group, the "All-Ukrainian Party of Liberty" 
(Svoboda), led by Oleh Tyahnybok.

It was originally called the "Ukrainian National Socialist Party" 
(SNPU), and used a combination of a trident and swastika as its 
party symbol. At the start of 2004, in preparation for the 
presidential election campaign, the party changed its name and 
symbol.

Nevertheless, in July, Tyahnybok publicly praised nationalist 
Ukrainian partisans in the Second World War who had "cleansed the 
country of Russians and Jews".

"There is a need", he explained, "for Ukraine to be finally 
returned to Ukrainians" and liberated from the "Muscovite Jewish 
mafia that runs Ukraine today".

Media outlets close to the government took up this statement to 
attack the opposition. As a result, Yushchenko banned Tyahnybok 
and his group from "Our Ukraine".

The forces aligned with Yulia Tymoshenko also include extreme 
right-wing organisations, e.g., the "Ukrainian Conservative 
Republican Party" (UCRP), which was founded in 1992 by the former 
dissident Stepan Khmara.

The group is fanatically anti-communist and calls for the 
"overthrow of the Russian Empire". In the course of public 
protests against Russia, the UCRP collaborated with the 
"Ukrainian National Assembly — Self-Defence" (UNA UNSO), led by 
Andrei Shkil, which likewise belongs to the bloc headed by 
Tymoshenko.

The Ukrainian National Assembly was created in 1990, and its 
paramilitary arm (UNA UNSO) in 1991, following the attempted 
putsch in Moscow. It is reputed to have more than 1000 fighters, 
who are alleged to have been active in the first Chechnya war on 
the side of the Chechens, in the Yugoslavia war on the side of 
the Croats, and also in Georgia.

The English-language section of its web site includes such items 
as a statement of solidarity with the Chilean ex-dictator General 
Augusto Pinochet, a report on a congress of the UNA UNSO, at 
which the organisation signed an agreement for "friendship and 
cooperation" with representatives of the German neo-Fascist NPD, 
and a long essay on the ideology and politics of UNA UNSO.

The essay states that Andrei Shkil, the editor-in-chief of the 
magazine Nationalist, sports the emblem of the Ukrainian division 
of the Nazi SS Galicia.

In the Nationalist, Shkil not only praises the racist ideologists 
Count Gobineau and Walter Darri, but also the book Mein Kampf 
and its author (Hitler's name is not mentioned) for "re-
examining these ideas (of Gobineau and Darri) at the highest 
level". It is therefore not surprising that Shkil has used his 
position as parliamentary delegate to call for the transfer of 
the bodies of Stepan Bandera and Simon Petlyura.

The latter's troops fought against the Bolsheviks in 1918-19 and 
killed some 30,000 Jews in pogroms.

In March 2001, Shkil and his organisation generated headlines 
when they fought street battles with the police in the course of 
protests against President Kuchma.

As a result, Shkil was condemned 18 months later to a term of 
imprisonment. Following the sentencing of Shkil, Yushchenko and 
other politicians of the opposition condemned the court decision 
as a political judgment.

Speaking in parliament, Tymoshenko called 15 members of Shkil's 
organisation sentenced to prison terms of 2-5 years "the best 
representatives of the nation".

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22 posted on 08/15/2005 3:17:24 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: brooklyn dave

'Tanya' is Aramaic for 'it has been taught', a first phrase in some Jewish commentaries.

Today's Tanya lesson, for example, contains these comments:

'I have become small from all the favors and from all [the truth].'

"These words were uttered by Jacob as an introduction to his plea to G-d that He save him from Esau. Although G-d had previously assured him that He would accompany and protect him wherever he went, Jacob nonetheless feared that all the kindnesses that G-d had already shown him had made him 'small', i.e., had reduced his merits. He thus feared that he was possibly in a state in which he would have to ask G-d anew, 'Save me'."

http://www.chabad.org/dailystudy/tanya.asp?tDate=8/15/2005


23 posted on 08/15/2005 3:18:24 PM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: spanalot

"Don't forget that the Kremlin is responsible for killing far more Jews than the Nazis - and that two thirds of those killed at Babi Yar were non Jewish Ukrainians - including the national soccor team that beat the German team desptie the warning they would be executed if they did humiliate the Germans. "

Communist Kremlin definitely responsible directly for the death of tens of millions of people throughout fmr. USSR and indirectly for tens of millions more round the world where it was successfull in exporting this murderous system. I am definitely not going to defend it for all the terrible suffering it brought to the world.

However, for truth sake Kremlin could not have killed far more Jews than Hitler. There wouldn't be any Jews left then in the world if it did. In 1939 there were about 15 million Jews world wide. After Holocaust there were 9 million--6 million perished in Holocaust. Certainly among estimated 40 million of Lenin-Stalin victims were Jews, but they were murdered not because they were Jews but for other reasons, like being "enemies of people" during 1937-1938 great purge. The whole number of Jews was never more than 4 million throughout USSR existence, so Stalin simply could not have found that many Jews to murder.

At the end of his bloody tenure in power, Stalin wanted to target specifically Soviet Jews. He planned deportation of Soviet Jewry to the Far East in 1952-1953, starting with Doctor show trials, blaming them for plot to poison top Communist Party officials--the latest Stalin paranoia. Fortunately this bastard died before he could have put his evil plan in motion and the Soviet Jewry was saved from deportation.

In Babi Yar, the bulk of the victims were Jews murdered after German Nazi authorities ordered all Jews of Kiev to gather and were shipped to Babiy Yar to be shot there. Jews were murdered because they were born Jews--that's was the essense and horror of Holocaust. Non Jews were shot there too because they were Soviet POW's, Ukrainian Intellectuals opposing Hitler, etc--for political or military activities against German Reich. But Jews were shot simply because they were BORN Jews (from little children to elders) and its amoral to belittle this.


24 posted on 08/15/2005 3:44:52 PM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: spanalot
PS - I don't see the Russians helping us in Afghanistan and Iraq - The Ukrainians are and would do more were it not for Yushchenko's Russian opposition.

Wrong! Russia helped us secure the bases in the Stans, and also supplied much of the materals for the Northern Alliance. They also supplied the crews for the N.A. tanks.
25 posted on 08/15/2005 5:25:10 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: jb6

Russia, as well as all of the provinces of the late Soviet Union, has an ancient tradition of anti-Semitism. In his last years Stalin was preparing a mass persecution and liquidation of the Jews. I can recommend a couple excellent books of this subject should anyone be interested.


26 posted on 08/15/2005 6:30:03 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: sergey1973

Estimates of total deaths at Babiyar are 150-200,000 and of these it is estimated that 35-50000 were Jews.

The Russians made many gains by deflecting attention away from their own antisemitism by making false claims about other groups like the Ukrainians and Poles.


27 posted on 08/15/2005 7:05:40 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: sergey1973

Estimates of total deaths at Babiyar are 150-200,000 and of these it is estimated that 35-50000 were Jews.

The Russians made many gains by deflecting attention away from their own antisemitism by making false claims about other groups like the Ukrainians and Poles.


28 posted on 08/15/2005 7:06:26 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: T.L.Sink

Russia, as well as all of the provinces of the late Soviet Union, has an ancient tradition of anti-Semitism. In his last years Stalin was preparing a mass persecution and liquidation of the Jews. =

Stalin is NOT russian he is soviet georgian. Was borned in Georgia.

What anciaent tradition odf anti-semitism Russia has? All czar time anti-jewish acts happened to be on teritory of Ukraine and Moldavia.


29 posted on 08/16/2005 5:07:08 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: T.L.Sink

Stalin was also killed off my his very inner circle. It wasn't just Jews he was going after, he was going after all those near him, a new purge. Which is interesting that he died on the evening before the new purge was to start with bloody foam (cynide poisoning symptom) on his lips.


30 posted on 08/16/2005 6:54:04 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: spanalot
The Russians made many gains by deflecting attention away from their own antisemitism by making false claims about other groups like the Ukrainians and Poles.

Care to quantify/qualify your accusation? I bet you can't. But we'll wait.

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Babi Yar: Mass Murder

In Kiev, the Nazis murdered approximately 100,000 people in a ravine named Babi Yar.

The German Takeover

After the Nazis attacked the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, they pushed east. By September 19, they had reached Kiev. It was a confusing time for the inhabitants of Kiev. Though a large portion of the population had family either in the Red Army or had evacuated into the interior of the Soviet Union, many inhabitants welcomed the German Army's takeover of Kiev. Many believed the Germans would free them from Stalin's oppressive regime. In only days, they would see the true face of the invaders.

Explosions

Looting began immediately. Then the Germans moved into Kiev's downtown on Kreshchatik Street. On September 24 - five days after the Germans entered Kiev - a bomb exploded around four o'clock in the afternoon at the German headquarters. The Germans were shocked. Then they cordoned off the area and gathered people in the vicinity as suspects. Then another building on Kreshchatik exploded. The Germans - and those they had assembled - fled for safety.

For days, bombs exploded in buildings in the Kreshchatik that had been occupied by Germans. Many Germans and civilians were killed and injured.

After the war, it was determined that a group of NKVD members were left behind by the Soviets to offer some resistance against the conquering Germans. But during the war, the Germans decided it was the work of Jews, and retaliated for the bombings against the Jewish population of Kiev.

The Notice

By the time the bombings finally stopped on September 28, the Germans already had a plan for retaliation. On this day, the Germans posted a notice all over town that read:

All [Jews] living in the city of Kiev and its vicinity are to report by 8 o'clock on the morning of Monday, September 29th, 1941, at the corner of Melnikovsky and Dokhturov Streets (near the cemetery). They are to take with them documents, money, valuables, as well as warm clothes, underwear, etc.
Any [Jew] not carrying out this instruction and who is found elsewhere will be shot.
Any civilian entering flats evacuated by [Jews] and stealing property will be shot.1

Most people in town, including the Jews, thought this notice meant deportation. They were wrong.

Reporting for Deportation

On the morning of September 29, tens of thousands of Jews arrived at the appointed location. Some arrived extra early in order to ensure themselves a seat on the train.2

A large crowd formed. Each person held onto their family members and belongings. Children were crying. They couldn't see what was happening up ahead.

Most waited hours in this crowd - only slowly moving toward what they thought was a train.

The Front of the Line

Soon after people passed through the gate into the Jewish cemetery, they reached the front of the mass of people. Here, they were to leave their baggage. Some in the crowd wondered how they would be reunited with their possessions; some believed it would be sent in a luggage van.3

The Germans were counting out only a few people at a time and then letting them move farther on. Machine-gun fire could be heard nearby. For those that realized what was happening and wanted to leave, it was too late. There was a barricade staffed by Germans who were checking identification papers of those wanting out. If the person was Jewish, they were forced to remain.

In Small Groups

Taken from the front of the line in groups of ten, they were led to a corridor, about four or five feet wide, formed by rows of soldiers on each side.4 The soldiers were holding sticks and would hit the Jews as they went by.

There was no question of being able to dodge or get away. Brutal blows, immediately drawing blood, descended on their heads, backs and shoulders from left and right. The soldiers kept shouting: "Schnell, schnell!" laughing happily, as if they were watching a circus act; they even found ways of delivering harder blows in the more vulnerable places, the ribs, the stomach and the groin.5

Screaming and crying, the Jews exited the corridor of soldiers onto an area overgrown with grass.6 Here they were ordered to undress.

Those who hesitated had their clothes ripped off them by force, and were kicked and struck with knuckledusters or clubs by the Germans, who seemed to be drunk with fury in a sort of sadistic rage.7

Babi Yar

Babi Yar is the name of a ravine in the northwestern section of Kiev. A. Anatoli described the ravine as
enormous, you might even say majestic: deep and wide, like a mountain gorge. If you stood on one side of it and shouted you would scarcely be heard on the other.8

It was here that the Nazis shot the Jews.

In small groups of ten, the Jews were taken along the edge of the ravine. One of the very few survivors remembers she "looked down and her head swam, she seemed to be so high up. Beneath her was a sea of bodies covered in blood."9

Once the Jews were lined up, the Nazis used a machine-gun to shoot them. When shot, they fell into the ravine. Then the next then were brought along the edge and shot.

According to the Einsatzgruppe Operational Situation Report No. 101, 33,771 Jews were killed at Babi Yar on September 29 and 30.10 But this was not the end of the killing at Babi Yar.

More Victims

The Nazis next rounded up Gypsies and killed them at Babi Yar. Patients of the Pavlov Psychiatric Hospital were gassed and then dumped into the ravine. Soviet prisoners of war were brought to the ravine and shot. Thousands of other civilians were killed at Babi Yar for trivial reasons, such as a mass shooting in retaliation for just one or two people breaking a Nazi order.

The killing continued for months at Babi Yar. It is estimated that 100,000 people were murdered there.

To an article about destroying the evidence of mass murder at Babi Yar.

Photograph courtesy of the USHMM Photo Archives.


1. A. Anatoli, Babi Yar: A Document in the Form of a Novel, Trans. David Floyd (New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1970) 91.
2. Anatoli, Babi Yar 93.
3. Anatoli, Babi Yar 102.
4. Anatoli, Babi Yar 105.
5. Anatoli, Babi Yar 105-106.
6. Anatoli, Babi Yar 106.
7. Anatoli, Babi Yar 106.
8. Anatoli, Babi Yar 15.
9. Anatoli, Babi Yar 109.
10. Yitzhak Arad (ed.), The Einsatzgruppen Reports (New York: Holocaust Library, 1989) 168.


Bibliography

Anatoli, A. Babi Yar: A Document in the Form of a Novel. Trans. David Floyd. New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1970.

Arad, Yitzhak (ed.). The Einsatzgruppen Reports. New York: Holocaust Library, 1989.

Spector, Shmuel. "Babi Yar." Encyclopedia of the Holocaust. Ed. Israel Gutman. 1990.


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31 posted on 08/16/2005 7:02:48 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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Russia and the Pogroms

Although the Haskalah movement was active in Eastern Europe, particularly in Russia, the civil emancipation of the Jews in no way enjoyed the support of the non Jewish population. The Jews of Czarist Russia suffered persecution and discrimination. They were restricted in the areas in which they could reside, and were not equal with other citizens before the law. Czars issues numerous decrees against them, and the priests encouraged hatred of the Jews among the peasantry. This reached a climax toward the end of the 19th century in a series of pogroms. In 1881, after a malicious rumour that the Jews had assassinated the Czar, pogroms took place in the Ukraine in more than 30 towns, the most serious of them in Kiev. Later, on Christmas Day, the Jews of Warsaw were attacked and on Easter, those of Balta. In 1883 there were more pogroms, and in 1891 - 1892 the Jews were expelled from Moscow. The first six years of the 20th century saw another series of hundreds of pogroms, particularly in Kishinev (where 45 Jews were killed and hundreds injured in 1903) and Odessa (over 300 dead and thousands wounded in 1905).

In this atmosphere a proposal for a debate in the Duma on the abolition of the Pale of Settlement was shelved, while a suggestion to exclude the Jews from military service was not accepted for the sole reason that the government could not dispense with the service of about 40 000 Jewish soldiers. In 1913 the government held a blood libel trial in Kiev, accusing Mendel Beilis, a Jew, of having murdered a Christian child to use his blood for ritual purposes. Anti Semitic propaganda was intensified and the government mobilised its police and judicial cadres to obtain his conviction. A strong defense was mustered which concluded in the jury, consisting of 7 Russian peasants, acquitting the accused.

These manifestations of Antisemitism discouraged even those who had pinned all their hopes on emancipation. Jewish youth reacted by joining either the revolutionary movement, or the Jewish nationalist groups. Mass emigration took place and the Jewish population of the United States grew from some 280 000 in 1880, to about 4 500 000 in 1925. The Jews of Eastern Europe had always traditionally looked forward to the return to the Promised Land, and the pogroms, especially in regions ridden by poverty, gave a major impetus to practical Zionist activity. Groups such as the Bilu (founded in 1882) promoted settlement in Palestine.

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32 posted on 08/16/2005 7:07:16 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: spanalot
Kishinev pogrom

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

This article is part of the History of the Jews in Bessarabia.

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The Kishinev pogrom was an pogrom (anti-Jewish riot) that took place in Kishinev, which was part of the Bessarabia province of Imperial Russia (currently Chiºinãu is the capital of independent Moldova) on April 6-7, 1903.

First Pogrom

The riot started after an incident on February 6 (Russian Easter) when a Christian Russian boy, Michael Ribalenko, was found murdered in the town of Dubossary (now Dubãsari), about 25 miles north of Kishinev. Although it was clear that the boy had been killed by a relative (who was later found), the anti-Semitic newspaper "Bessarabetz", published by Pavolachi Krusheven, insinuated that he was killed by the Jews. Another newspaper, "Svet," used the ages-old blood libel against the Jews (that the boy had been killed to use his blood in preparation of matzo).

The Kishinev Pogrom spanned three days of rioting against the Jews. Forty-seven (some put the figure as high as 49) Jews were killed, 92 severely wounded, 500 slightly wounded and over 700 houses looted and destroyed. Vyacheslav von Plehve, the Minister of Interior, supposedly gave orders not to stop the rioters, but, in any case, no attempt was made by the police or military to intervene to stop the riots until the third day.

The New York Times described the First Kishinev pogrom: "The anti-Jewish riots in Kishinev, Bessarabia, are worse than the censor will permit to publish. There was a well laid-out plain for the general massacre of Jews on the day following the Russian Easter. The mob was led by priests, and the general cry, "Kill the Jews," was taken- up all over the city. The Jews were taken wholly unaware and were slaughtered like sheep. The dead number 120 and the injured about 500. The scenes of horror attending this massacre are beyond description. Babes were literally torn to pieces by the frenzied and bloodthirsty mob. The local police made no attempt to check the reign of terror. At sunset the streets were piled with corpses and wounded. Those who could make their escape fled in terror, and the city is now practically deserted of Jews." ("Jewish Massacre Denounced," New York Times, April 28, 1903, p 6). Actual casualty figures ended up being lower than this initial description.

[edit] Second Pogrom

A second pogrom took place on October 19-20, 1905. This time the riots began as political protests against the Czar, but turned into an attack on Jews wherever they could be found. By the time the riots were over, 19 Jews were killed and 56 were injured. Jewish self-defense leagues organized after the first pogrom stopped some of the violence, but they were not wholly successful.

33 posted on 08/16/2005 7:12:58 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: spanalot
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Outside of Russia

Pogroms spread throughout Eastern Europe, and anti-Jewish riots broke out elsewhere in the world. Pogroms happened in Warsaw in 1881, and in 1918 and in the 1930s there were large-scale pogroms in Poland. In 1927, there were pogroms in Oradea, Romania. In the Americas, there was a pogrom in Argentina in 1919, during the Tragic Week.

34 posted on 08/16/2005 7:15:30 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: spanalot
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

During the Russian Revolution

Many pogroms accompanied the Russian Revolution of 1917 and the ensuing Russian Civil War, an estimated 70,000 to 250,000 civilian Jews were killed in the atrocities throughout the former Russian Empire; the number of Jewish orphans exceeded 300,000. In his book 200 Years Together, Russian historian Alexander Solzhenitsyn provides the following numbers: out of estimated 900 mass pogroms, about 40% were perpetrated by the Ukranian forces led by Symon Petliura, 25% by the Green Army and various nationalist and anarchist gangs, 17% by the White Army, especially forces of Anton Denikin, and 8.5% by the Red Army. .

35 posted on 08/16/2005 7:16:53 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: jb6

The pogroms in Ukraine I know perfectly well.

All sides were murdering or abusing Jews--White Guard Army, Red Army, Various chieftians, Petlura Forces. My great grandma was a survivor of this pogroms. Pogroms in Russian Empire starting in 1880's after assassination of Alexandr II were also brutal that brought exodus of millions of Jews from Russian Empire to US and Western Europe.

However, the Russian Jews were able to leave the Russian empire and find a decent life in America. Hitler did not gave German, Polish and other Jews that came in the site of Nazis the chance to escape in WWII. Also Britain closed British controlled Palestine for Jews to appease Arabs.


36 posted on 08/16/2005 7:47:25 AM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: sergey1973

We in America turned back two cruise ships full of Jews in 1938 and they sailed a bit longer trying to find a port but eventually returned to Germany and the camps.


37 posted on 08/16/2005 8:15:30 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: RusIvan

Of course Stalin was from Georgia but Georgia became part of Russia in the early 19th century and it was indeed part of the Soviet Union. If you don't know about the pograms and persecutions of the Jews that were a constant part of Russian history I can recommend some good histories. By the way, would you like to know the books I referred to about Stalin's planned holocaust?


38 posted on 08/16/2005 1:53:47 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: jb6

Here's an insight, Ukraine "experts"- far right parties are an insignificant minority (1-2% of electorate) and if you report what fringe parties are doing and attempt to present it as mainstrean, then all is not well in your head. This is on par with Soviet-era style reports that America is nothing but race riots and a poverty-stricken hell hole.

I'm sensing that jb6 is Russian (who else would slam Ukraine so much?). Russian treatment of its Jews is nothing to be proud of. Guess which nation had the following motto: Biei zhydov, spasai Rosiyi. (transl. "Kill Jews, save Russia"


39 posted on 08/16/2005 2:26:04 PM PDT by Mazepa
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To: Mazepa

Problem is, I'm not slamming Ukrainians, I'm slamming the Yushchenko-Tymoshenko Road Show and their allies, like Una-Unso. It's interesting that individuals such as yourself associate that crew with the state and people of Ukraine. Very autocratic of you. Politicians are not the state nor are they the people, but its interesting when your type associates any criticism of the government with an insult on the people. That is what is soviet and you're the one practicing it.


40 posted on 08/16/2005 2:30:09 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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