[Alexander Rubin]

Good news!

[JRios1968]

Good job protecting the church from those who would render it weak in order to advance their political ideology!

[ncountylee]

Bravo!

[Army Air Corps]

Good job in following the will of G-d rather than the perversion of man.

[goodnesswins]

"Delegates voted against the measure 503 to 490"

And, THIS is an EVANGELICAL Lutheran body??????.......HHMMMMM.

[bizeemommie]

I am still troubled by the number of votes in favor of the measure.

[little jeremiah]

later pingout.

[SweetCaroline]

those arguing for gay ordination had not made a convincing theological or scientific argument on why they were right. .....guess they learned nothing from the CC letting gays become priests and the raping of our children that followed!

[mikrofon]

"This church is not ready to make major changes in its ordination practices," Riley said. "That was the crux, really."

Interesting choice of words...

[rface]

I think the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is one of the very liberal Synods, but it is also a big Synod. There's a big difference between accepting sinners into the Church, and allowing sinful behaviour to be acceptable.

This is a hopeful development.

[StoneColdTaxHater]

this is why I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran

[niteowl77]

For those who have been paying attention, this was certainly not a win for the good guys so much as window dressing to appear like a tactical stalemate. Mark Hanson and the rest of the ELCA hierarchy have successfully mainstreamed homosexuality into their denomination, the vote on openly homosexual clergy being little more than a bone toss to preserve the flow into the collection plate. With a nod and a wink, the agenda still continues, while the gullible wipe their brows and breathe a sigh of relief that the ordeal is over. It isn't. Any popping of champagne - or akvavit - corks over the Orlando confab is not merely premature, but ludicrous.

That aside, the anti-semitism which is becoming more institutionalized within the national body of the ELCA has not been as reported on as it should be. The hospital and aid organizations in Israel and the West Bank/Gaza supported directly by the ELCA have been the source of some uncomfortable (my euphemism) anti-Israeli rhetoric, some of which is - or at least was until recenly - in the form of letters/bulletins from staffers in the Middle East. last year, I was forwarded newsletters from one of the ELCA sites in Mpls, and some of the content sounded more like Hamas talking points than something coming from people who profess to be part of the grafted branch.

[Honorary Serb]

Yes, we conservative ELCA Lutheran stopped the worst of the "gay" resolutions. But we did not win. That is because the assembly authorized a new feminazi liturgy book and hymnal that downgrades the use of the holy Triune name of Father Son and Holy Spirit, removes "masculine" and "military" language from hymns, and makes other heterodox changes. Moreover, the gaysbian activists in the ELCA will find loopholes to perform "blessings" or "gay unions", and will ignore the ban on "gay" ordinations as they have already done.

We have two Freepers (lightman and aberaussie) who were there in Orlando, and at least one other (myself) who is an active member of an orthodox resistance group and has been getting communications from Orlando from several sources. So we know.