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What al-Qaida Really Wants
Der Spiegel ^ | By Yassin Musharbash

Posted on 08/14/2005 8:42:33 AM PDT by Lessismore

If there is anyone who might possibly have an inkling as to what al-Qaida are up to, it is the Jordanian journalist Fouad Hussein. He has not only spent time in prison with al-Zarqawi, but has also managed make contact with many of the network's leaders. Based on correspondence with these sources, he has now brought out a book detailing the organization's master plan.

There must be something particularly trustworthy about the Jordanian journalist Fouad Hussein. After all, he has managed to get some of the the most sought after terrorists to open up to him. Maybe it helped that they spent time together in prison many years ago -- when Hussein was a political prisoner he successfully negotiated for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to be released from solitary confinement. Or is it because of the honest and direct way in which he puts his ideas onto paper? Whatever the reason, the result is that a film which Hussein made about al-Zarqawi has even been shown on al-Qaida affiliated Web sites. "That showed me that they at least felt understood," the journalist says.

Even for an Arab journalist it is no easy matter getting in touch with al-Qaida's inner circle. Nevertheless, Hussein, who is based in Amman, Jordan, has succeeded in turning his correspondence with the terrorists into a remarkable book: "al-Zarqawi - al-Qaida's Second Generation."

If you meet Hussein, as you might when he is relaxing in Amman's Café Vienna, you see he is calm and laid-back, without any of the glamour of a secret service spy. But what this small, slim man has to report is nothing less than the world's most dangerous terrorist network's plan of action: al-Qaida's strategy for the next two decades. It is both frightening and absurd, a lunatic plan conceived by fanatics who live in their own world, but who continually manage to break into the real world with their brutal acts of violence.

One of Hussein's most sensational sources for the book, according to what he told SPIEGEL Online, was Seif al-Adl. The Egyptian terrorist, who is suspected of taking part in the attacks on the American Embassies in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi in 1998, has a ransom of US$5 million on his head from the FBI. Secret services suspect that al-Adl is now in Iran.

To prove that he really has had contact to al-Adl, Hussein includes in the first two pages of the book a copy of a hand-written letter the wanted man sent to the author. In the original document, which is 15 pages long, al-Adl describes the disagreements between al-Zarqawi and Osama bin Laden during the Afghanistan war. "Statements from Seif al-Adl have also crept into the chapter on al-Qaida's strategy," explains Fouad Hussein.

An Islamic Caliphate in Seven Easy Steps

In the introduction, the Jordanian journalist writes, "I interviewed a whole range of al-Qaida members with different ideologies to get an idea of how the war between the terrorists and Washington would develop in the future." What he then describes between pages 202 and 213 is a scenario, proof both of the terrorists' blindness as well as their brutal single-mindedness. In seven phases the terror network hopes to establish an Islamic caliphate which the West will then be too weak to fight.

-- The First Phase Known as "the awakening" -- this has already been carried out and was supposed to have lasted from 2000 to 2003, or more precisely from the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York and Washington to the fall of Baghdad in 2003. The aim of the attacks of 9/11 was to provoke the US into declaring war on the Islamic world and thereby "awakening" Muslims. "The first phase was judged by the strategists and masterminds behind al-Qaida as very successful," writes Hussein. "The battle field was opened up and the Americans and their allies became a closer and easier target." The terrorist network is also reported as being satisfied that its message can now be heard "everywhere."

-- The Second Phase "Opening Eyes" is, according to Hussein's definition, the period we are now in and should last until 2006. Hussein says the terrorists hope to make the western conspiracy aware of the "Islamic community." Hussein believes this is a phase in which al-Qaida wants an organization to develop into a movement. The network is banking on recruiting young men during this period. Iraq should become the center for all global operations, with an "army" set up there and bases established in other Arabic states.

-- The Third Phase This is described as "Arising and Standing Up" and should last from 2007 to 2010. "There will be a focus on Syria," prophesies Hussein, based on what his sources told him. The fighting cadres are supposedly already prepared and some are in Iraq. Attacks on Turkey and -- even more explosive -- in Israel are predicted. Al-Qaida's masterminds hope that attacks on Israel will help the terrorist group become a recognized organization. The author also believes that countries neighboring Iraq, such as Jordan, are also in danger.

-- The Fourth Phase Between 2010 and 2013, Hussein writes that al-Qaida will aim to bring about the collapse of the hated Arabic governments. The estimate is that "the creeping loss of the regimes' power will lead to a steady growth in strength within al-Qaida." At the same time attacks will be carried out against oil suppliers and the US economy will be targeted using cyber terrorism.

-- The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared. The plan is that by this time, between 2013 and 2016, Western influence in the Islamic world will be so reduced and Israel weakened so much, that resistance will not be feared. Al-Qaida hopes that by then the Islamic state will be able to bring about a new world order.

-- The Sixth Phase Hussein believes that from 2016 onwards there will a period of "total confrontation." As soon as the caliphate has been declared the "Islamic army" it will instigate the "fight between the believers and the non-believers" which has so often been predicted by Osama bin Laden.

-- The Seventh Phase This final stage is described as "definitive victory." Hussein writes that in the terrorists' eyes, because the rest of the world will be so beaten down by the "one-and-a-half million Muslims," the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed. This phase should be completed by 2020, although the war shouldn't last longer than two years.

A Serious Plan?

But just how serious is this scenario? "Al-Qaida makes no compromises," says the book's author Fouad Hussein. He obviously believes that this seven-point plan could well become the guiding principle for a whole range of al-Qaida fighters. Hussein is far from an hysterical alarmist -- in fact he is seen as a serious journalist and his Zarqawi book is better than most of the reports in Arabic on the subject. Only last year, the journalist made a film which was received with great interest and was shown on the German-French TV channel arte. In it he provided deep insights into al-Qaida's internet propaganda machine.

Nevertheless, there is no way the scenario he depicts can be seen as a plan which al-Qaida can follow step by step. The terrorist network just doesn't work like that anymore. The significance of the central leadership has diminished and its direct commands have lost a great deal of importance. The supposed master plan for the years 2000 to 2020 reads in parts more like a group of ideas cobbled together in retrospect, than something planned and presented in advance. And not to mention the terrorist agenda is simply unworkable: the idea that al-Qaida could set up a caliphate in the entire Islamic world is absurd. The 20-year plan is based mainly on religious ideas. It hardly has anything to do with reality -- especially phases four to seven.

But that doesn't mean that we should simply discount everything that Hussein has uncovered. A few of the steps in the agenda are plausible. The idea that Syria will become a focus for the Mujahedin is regarded by experts as highly likely. "Close ranks, concentrate on getting more recruits, set up cells," was the call to the "Mujahedin in Syria" which appeared on one Web site at the beginning of August. From the point of view of the jihadists, Israel and Turkey are also fairly logical targets for an escalation of the confrontation. "Al-Qaida views every fight as a victory, because for so long Muslims didn't have any weapons at all," says Hussein. He may not be far off. As for Jordan, al-Qaida leaders such as al-Zarqawi, have already made attacks on the country. They have also stated on numerous occasions that Jerusalem is the real target.

Equally, the idea that in the future al-Qaida could increasingly become a movement that attracts young frustrated men, is hardly a theory plucked out of thin air. The terror network puts a lot of effort into its propaganda -- assumedly in order to expand its support base.

Attacks on the West: a Means to an End

What is interesting is that major attacks against the West are not even mentioned by Fouad Hussein. Terrorism here cannot be ignored -- but it seems these attacks simply supplement the larger aim of setting up an Islamic caliphate. Attacks such as those in New York, Madrid and London would in this case not be ends in themselves, but rather means to a achieve a larger purpose -- steps in a process of increasing insecurity in the West.

Nowadays, it is harder than ever to truly understand al-Qaida: the organization has degenerated into branches and loosely connected cells, related groups are taken in, and people who hardly had anything to do with al-Qaida before, now carry out attacks in its name. It is hard to imagine orders which come right from the top because Osama bin Laden spends all his time struggling to survive. At the same time, the division between foot soldiers in the organization and sympathizers is becoming increasingly blurred. It is all too easy to fall prey to disinformation -- al-Qaida also excels in this area. Even Hussein's scenario should be judged skeptically.

His book should therefore be read for what it really is: an attempt to second guess how al-Qaida terrorists think, what they really want and how they propose to get there.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; globaljihad
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1 posted on 08/14/2005 8:42:33 AM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Lessismore
An Islamic Caliphate in Seven Easy Steps

...well duh - I didn't need an expert to tell me that.

BTW, at what step are we allowed to call Islam the Enemy?

Anyone? Yah I know, Islam is a religion of peace yadda yadda

2 posted on 08/14/2005 8:46:49 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Lessismore
-- The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared.

Where would this happen? My guess: a nuclear Iran.

4 posted on 08/14/2005 8:48:37 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: tomahawk
I would rather just nuke Mecca and Medina.

Why? Last time I checked, the Saudis DON'T have nukes. Save the nukes for the people that will nuke us. Also known as Iran.
5 posted on 08/14/2005 8:50:32 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Waiting for Willie's boohoohoo of the week....next week, 200 strippers laid off in Tampa......)
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To: tomahawk
I would rather just nuke Mecca and Medina.

I understand where you're coming from, but I really can't see such a tactic putting an end to Muslim terrorism in the west.

6 posted on 08/14/2005 8:51:14 AM PDT by Maceman (Pro Se Defendant from Hell)
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To: Fenris6
"BTW, at what step are we allowed to call Islam the Enemy?"

You're allowed right now.

Anyone who doesn't allow it is with the terrorists.

7 posted on 08/14/2005 8:51:20 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Lessismore
Ah yes, funny how Al-Qeda's new "plans" fit suspiciously with the Hysteric Left's propaganda lie about Iraq "breeding Terrorists" Going to be hard for them to move to "the next step" with the bulk of their recruits dieing in Iraq.

Translation from Arab disillusions of grander.

"We are getting our asses kicked on the battle field, time to up the propaganda battle so we can scare the Dinosaur Media and the Hysteric Left in the West into snatching defeat from the jaws of victory for us. It's working so well. Look at the way they are propping up our agent Cindy Sheean with so must deliberately misleading "reporting". Look at the Newsweeks fraudulent Koran Flushing story and the hysteria over Abu Grabe and Gitmo. All we have to do is keep the pressure on and eventually our pet stooges in the West will do our work for us".
8 posted on 08/14/2005 8:52:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Brick by brick, stone by stone, the Revolution grows)
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To: Lessismore
The aim of the attacks of 9/11 was to provoke the US into declaring war on the Islamic world and thereby "awakening" Muslims. "The first phase was judged by the strategists and masterminds behind al-Qaida as very successful," writes Hussein.

I call B***S*** on this. They thought we'd fold, or would apologize/negotiate/ignore it, just like we did before under Bubba.

I think they were generally unprepared for our response, and if they view us over there, wiping out the fire ants of AQ junior, as a victory, that's fine with me. Keeps 'em there.

9 posted on 08/14/2005 8:53:01 AM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
-- The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared.

Where would this happen? My guess: a nuclear Iran.

Iraq is the key to it all. If we pull out of an unstable Iraq, it will quickly fall to the Militants and shortly thereafter a coalition of Syria-Iran-Iraq will be formed. They will have the power and economic wherewithall to take it from there. A stabilized Iraq can prevent that and permit the isolation of Syria and Iran.

10 posted on 08/14/2005 8:54:39 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: bootless

i agree with you.

I think everything he says is probably true but the ythought that by pulling off 9-11 we would leave teh middles east and they could continue with the creation of their caliphate


11 posted on 08/14/2005 8:58:06 AM PDT by atlanta67
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To: Lessismore
"the idea that al-Qaida could set up a caliphate in the entire Islamic world is absurd. The 20-year plan is based mainly on religious ideas. It hardly has anything to do with reality..."

I think that one paragraph says it all.

12 posted on 08/14/2005 8:58:14 AM PDT by infocats
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To: Maceman

What tactic will put an end to Muslim terrorism?


13 posted on 08/14/2005 9:01:01 AM PDT by Chgogal (Congressmen who willfully...during war...damage moral...should be arrested, exiled or..." Lincoln)
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To: Lessismore
The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared. The plan is that by this time, between 2013 and 2016, Western influence in the Islamic world will be so reduced and Israel weakened so much, that resistance will not be feared. Al-Qaida hopes that by then the Islamic state will be able to bring about a new world order.

Mooselimbs in the Arab world outnumber Israelis 100:1. Israel is completely surrounded by hostile countries. Israels oil production is a mere fraction of the Arab world. Theoretically Israel shouldn't stand a chance. And yet the Mooselimbs have a 8-11 year plan to weaken Israel, to the point of then overtaking Israel.

With all the wealth of the Arab world. The population of the Arab world. And strategic location of the Arab. The Mooselimbs ought to be able to wipe Israel off the face of the planet. What a bunch of pu$$ys. I guess allah isn't as great as they claim.

14 posted on 08/14/2005 9:02:01 AM PDT by mountn man (Everyone brings joy into a room. Some when they enter. Others when they leave)
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To: Lessismore

BUMP FOR LATER.


15 posted on 08/14/2005 9:02:20 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Fenris6

Islam is a religion of peace - taken over by psychotics, who immediately redefined "peace" as "immediate capitulation and subjugation to Shar'ia law, or die".

See the glorious freedom? You always have a choice....


16 posted on 08/14/2005 9:05:13 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: Senator Goldwater
BTW, at what step are we allowed to call Islam the Enemy?

You're allowed right now.

Anyone who doesn't allow it is with the terrorists.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1453235/posts

CAIR...maybe they should be called al-Qaeda in America?

17 posted on 08/14/2005 9:08:13 AM PDT by edpc
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To: Lessismore
What muzlims want is clear and simple. They want what they see on TV; material prosperity.

Why do Islamics hate the West? Islamic hatred is based on one thing, envy. That's right, envy, nothing else.

Their religion apparently teaches them that if they convert of kill all nonbelievers everything will fall into their hands and they will all be driving Mercedes and living in palaces.

This is the belief of all have-nots who think that everything we in the West have was given to us. Muzlims haven't a clue where it all comes from.

If the Islamics of the ancient times had won the known world we would all still be living in caves and tents.
18 posted on 08/14/2005 9:14:08 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Lessismore

There is absolutely no room for political correctness in war, Islam is the enemy, verified by Mohammad himself in the teachings of the Koran.

Is there anything short of Mohammad himself coming back to life and telling the Muslims to knock it off that would change the inevitable conclusion to this culture war declared on us?


19 posted on 08/14/2005 9:15:04 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: Lessismore
"The Seventh Phase This final stage is described as "definitive victory." Hussein writes that in the terrorists' eyes, because the rest of the world will be so beaten down by the "one-and-a-half billion Muslims," the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed."

the "one-and-a-half billion Muslims," the one-billion Muslims the half billion Muslims the 100 million Muslims the 10 Million Muslims the 500 Thousand Muslims the 10,000 Muslims......

NeverGore

20 posted on 08/14/2005 9:18:41 AM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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