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Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented? The Gorelick Memo and What We Knew
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| 11 August 2005
| Gregory Borse
Posted on 08/11/2005 10:57:02 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: popdonnelly
There must have been a "gentleman's agreement" on the 9/11 Commission, to the effect that the Republicans wouldn't trash the Clinton Administration and the Democrat's wouldn't trash the Bush Administration. Of course the Democrats, not being gentlemen and women, broke the agreement.There must have been. It would have been so easy for Pres. Bush, when the report was delivered, to have said "but I think the Commission was flawed by its inclusion of Ms Gorelick on the panel..." or some such thing. The story could have had some traction if Bush had kept bringing it up.
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posted on
08/11/2005 12:10:48 PM PDT
by
Sans-Culotte
("...on Earth, as it is in TEXAS")
To: Rumplemeyer; Mia T
Our own MiaT made the
Chinese connection to Gorelick's wall months ago. Freepers truly are amazing.
Snip:
Once the clintons' own U.S. attorneys were in place, once the opposition was disemboweled by the knowledge that their raw FBI files had been in the possession of the clintons, once domestic law enforcement was effectively blinded to foreign data by Gorelick's Wall, the clintons were free to methodically and seditiously and with impunity auction off America's security, sovereignty and economy to the highest foreign bidder.
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posted on
08/11/2005 12:21:30 PM PDT
by
Quilla
To: soxfan; BushisTheMan
Totally agree, soxfan. This is not tinfoil hat stuff at all. Sandy Berger did not plead guilty to a wild-eyed conspiracy theory. In fact, logic and reason suggests that what we think we know about Berger's motivation and guilty plea does not adequately explain Berger's behavior. He was many things, but stupid and rash are not among them. Whatever Berger was attempting to do, it was much, much bigger than trying to cull out embarrassing stuff about Clinton's weakness and the failed LA Millenium plot. All that was already known, and the administration had survived it handily.
I have always thought this was misdirection. Classic clinton stuff. Admit to something sufficiently scandalous to satisfy the hounds, but inspecific enough to be survivable. Protect the crown jewels.
So what would be so vital, so compelling, that a former NSA director would risk everything to see it doesn't come to light? He had to know he'd be caught--yet whatever it was he was after was worth it. What could possibly be that valuable? Mohammed Atta's name on a 1999 WH document routed thru NSA or DoD sure qualifies, imho.
Interesting tidbit: Welson says that the first time Able Danger was brought to the attention of the 9-11 Commission was in Oct. 2003. Wonder what specific date that was? Sandy Berger purloined four documents from the archives on October 2, 2003.
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posted on
08/11/2005 12:45:31 PM PDT
by
Eroteme
To: golfisnr1
As this information shows, the whole commission was a waste of taxpayer money. Jamie G. is an inept and traitorous person who needs to be brought to account for her actions (appearances, give me a break!). At the time the information was developed the Clinton administration was asleep at the wheel. The USS Cole had just been bombed and they still practiced this subversive policy. I am convinced that our country was and is inundated with traitorous left wing liberal war criminals who must be routed out and eliminated. Thank God GW has brought integrity and common sense back to our Country. And as a brief aside to my rant, does anyone know the total cost of the 911 commission work?
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posted on
08/11/2005 1:09:49 PM PDT
by
7thOF7th
(Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
To: soxfan; BushisTheMan
I've been looking into media reports of what Sandy was alleged to have Burgled.
The
Washington Post and
New York Times reported in March and April that the five classified documents were different versions of Richard Clarke's classified millennium "after action review" from EARLY 2000. He also took the handwritten notes he made in the national archive about the after action review. Berger shred three of the five versions because they were allegedly identical. Berger returned the two remaining stolen copies of the report and his handwritten notes after he was called out for stealing the documents by archives staff.
The NYT obtained this information from a Berger "associate" when his plea bargain was announced; the Washington Post's source is less clear, although they also spoke to a "Berger associate who declined to be identified by name but was speaking with Berger's permission."
The Able Danger team put together the al-Qaeda org chart and was prohibited by the Clintonista lawyers from divulging Mohammad Atta's cell to the FBI in SUMMER 2000. So if (and it's a big if) you believe the MSM reports, Sandy wasn't burgling the chart or Atta information.
He could have been burgling other information about Able Danger, though. The project began in 1999 and ended in February 2001. They likely
delivered their final report on which al-Qaeda cells to take out in January 2001, while Clinton was still in office.
To: Quilla
And when it is proven they and their fellow travelers should be hung, not jailed, hung.
When these revelation come to be known, the democratic party as we know it will cease to exist, the very word "Democrat" will become synonymous with traitor, they are the end of along line of Communists that began with FDR
To: Lando Lincoln
What a Clinton Master Stroke to place Gorelick on the 9/11 commission and thereby not only preclude her from testifying but also stay totally informed of any commission proceedings, including a possibility to report back and immediately report back to her former masters.
Whose influence or pull placed Gorelick on this commission?
To call her in now and testify under oath before a Federal Jury is a minimum to uncover grand negligence or purposeful cover up to obfuscate.
Such is owed to 3000 victims and their families as well as history.
Am worm is out of the can. Endless speculations from here on in will saddle history if known intelligence was surpressed by the commission and/or staffers if left unanswered.
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posted on
08/11/2005 1:40:45 PM PDT
by
hermgem
To: conservative in nyc
Hey, that was good research and all very interesting. I find it hard to believe that the Clintonistas wanted Clarke's after action review. Clarke is an idiot and his comments are worthless. However, the big push was on to not have Clinton blamed for 9/11. The Able Danger team had the proof that it was during the Clinton term when first told about a possible attack. And the AD team just happened not to be called? Please! More Clinton/Gore-lick dirty tricks in my opinion.
To: Quilla
Or to thwart the Oklahoma City bombing - Iraqi Intelligence Officer suspected. Gorelick was able to cut communications between FBI and any overseas espionage agencies effective.
To: wayoverontheright
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posted on
08/11/2005 3:58:43 PM PDT
by
LtKerst
(Lt Kerst)
To: Lando Lincoln; Mia T; Dog; dead
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posted on
08/11/2005 4:03:53 PM PDT
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: MEGoody
Of course we could have stopped 9/11 if we could read the future and could arrest people based on what our foresight predicted they would do in the future. No, perhaps we could have prevented 911 by allowing the FBI to investigate these people and their activities given that they were known to be part of a terror group that had been killing Americans (and others) around the globe FOR YEARS.
Government is not infallible. I do not demand that government protect me from all disasters. But we knew Al Queda was responsible for many terror acts. That they were here certainly signified something! Perhaps, had they been deported (I doubt they could have been arrested) they would have been spooked enough to stay away. Perhaps they would have come back. But today we could say that at least our government wasn't asleep at the wheel.
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posted on
08/11/2005 4:16:04 PM PDT
by
Dianna
To: Lando Lincoln
The Reuters link is dead already.
To: Lando Lincoln; golfisnr1
[As the Washington Times noted in April
2004: Ms. Gorelick has been among the most partisan and aggressive Democratic panel members in questioning the anti-terror efforts of the Bush administration. The nation deserves a full accounting from Ms. Gorelick of why the Clinton administration felt it necessary to go the extra mile in order to hamper the capability of law enforcement and intelligence agents to talk to one another. If Ms. Gorelick fails to provide this, her actions would bring into serious doubt the credibility of the commission.]
Well that was April/2004. . .
Where is Ms. Gorelick today. . .Sandy Burger? The rest of the liars and traitors of the Demrat Party?
Oh. . .and Hillary. . .she is. . .calculating the innumumerables to 'her' White House.
SICK! . . .sick. . . These people MUST BE OUTED!
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posted on
08/11/2005 8:03:08 PM PDT
by
cricket
(color me. . .Republican)
To: potlatch; devolve; PhilDragoo; Smartass
Bookmarking linked article at Post 32
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posted on
08/11/2005 8:06:48 PM PDT
by
ntnychik
To: Dat Mon
"And why was he given a mere slap on the wrist and his security clearance allowed to be reinstated after only three years?"
Why. . .why. . .why?
That he has been protected is both curious. . .and depressing. (Hillary still holding some aces in the FBI files she holds or. . .is there just a 'something else' going on here.)
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posted on
08/11/2005 8:18:42 PM PDT
by
cricket
(color me. . .Republican)
To: Quilla; jla
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posted on
08/11/2005 8:48:08 PM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Lando Lincoln
Obviously the fix was in on the 9/11 commission from the get go. DC is one stagnant pool of corruption.
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posted on
08/11/2005 8:55:05 PM PDT
by
mercy
(never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
To: Enterprise
The first press conference after TWA800 was conducted by James Kalstrom, from the NY FBI office. The next day, an admiral was flown in from Washington to hold the press briefings.
If the TWA was a commercial airline accident, then why was an admiral brought in to hold the press briefings? In all other air accidents, the press briefings are conducted by the NTSB!
Let's see there were many eye witnesses (some of them experienced military) who saw something go up and strike the plane (90% of whom were never interviewed by the FBI!)
To: gov_bean_ counter
But .. according to Weldon - the staff of the 9/11 commission was informed twice about this information - and the fact that the FBI would not accept it.
So .. I suspect Sandy Burgler was destroying the memos regarding Atta - which would have been dynamite. I still think this has now become public because of the Berger conviction. And .. I suspect it's what Sandy told the prosecutors about the stuff he destroyed. The clue to me is that if Atta's name appeared on any of those documents, it was going to be an obvious arrow pointing directly at the Clinton admin. - Berger had to take the risk of trying to steal the information.
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posted on
08/11/2005 9:20:21 PM PDT
by
CyberAnt
(President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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