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To The Qaeda:Ex Russian Agent, Vice Bin Laden Trained From Kgb
Yahoo Italy ^ | 7-16-2005 | AGI/AFP

Posted on 08/10/2005 10:23:00 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite

Warsaw, 16 lug. - number two of al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri, were trained from FSB (former KGB) Russian in 1998. It supports a former agent of the KGB.. - Alexander Litvinenko, in an interview to the Polish daily paper "Rzeczpospolita" has raccontatao that "in the 1998 Al-Zawahiri it was in a field of training of the federal Service of emergency (Fsb, former-Kgb) in Daghestan. Then it was transferred in Afghanistan and there divento' the vice ones of Osama Bin Laden ", has said former the 007 Russian: "To the age I worked in that section and I can confirm that Zawahiri was the only tie between the Fsb and al-Qaeda".


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; binladen; communist; fsb; kgb; wot; zawahiri
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To: Captainpaintball

BTW, is that guy on FR?


21 posted on 08/10/2005 11:06:36 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: HitmanNY

Ping!


22 posted on 08/10/2005 11:06:52 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

It's an open forum, for criminy sake.

Heck, folks can hit abuse if they're that offended or take a walk or something. I do it occasionally and sleep just fine afterward.


This FRee Speech thing is a real burden, huh? ;-)


23 posted on 08/10/2005 11:08:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

A slightly better translation follows:

Al-Qaeda number two, Ayman al-Zawahiri, was trained by the Russian FSB in 1998. This has been asserted by an ex KGB agent, Alexander Litvinenko, in an interview to the Polish daily "Rzeczpospolita," in which he has said that "in 1998 Al-Zawahiri was in a training camp of the FSB (ex KGB) in Daghestan. He was then transferred in Afghanistan and became Osama bin Laden's deputy," has said Alexander Litvinenko: "At that time I used to work in that section of the FSB and I can confirm that Zawahiri was the only link between the FSB and al-Qaeda."


24 posted on 08/10/2005 11:11:01 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It *really* makes you wonder what the agenda of some individuals is.


25 posted on 08/10/2005 11:11:08 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Disinformation IS in, no matter what Rummy said a few years back.. ;-)


26 posted on 08/10/2005 11:12:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: GarySpFc; NormsRevenge; Captainpaintball; TAquinas

LMFAO!!!!! After recieving that rather odd FReepmail, I decided to check something. Guys, I just looked at "GarySpFC" ping list on post #14.

He has none other than "MarMema" A *KNOWN* PUTIN APOLOGIST ON FR!!!!

The plot thickens....this place is teeming with trolls!


27 posted on 08/10/2005 11:13:57 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: zarf
"We helped create Saddam too."

No we didn't !

Saddam was well on his was and killed many people in the 70's way before the US knew him.

He was already President for several years when the CIA helped him against Iran and that help was just enough to keep Iran from going all the way to Bagdad which they almost did.

28 posted on 08/10/2005 11:20:22 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: zarf
Q: Who did we give Stinger Missiles to, Mullah Omar and the Taliban or the eventual leader of the Northern Alliance, Massoud?

A: Massoud.

Q: Who killed Massoud?

A: Al Qaeda, the buddies of the Taliban.

Funny how we're never credited with backing the future enemies of the Taliban. And funny how we're blamed for creating the Taliban, a group which only came about years after we left and which was not formed with CIA money or aid but rather gained popularity and hence power by acting as a curb to the lawlessness left by Russia's war and retreat. The Taliban were a creation of Pakistan's former elected government and an inadvertant side-effect of the Russian invasion years before. One thing they were not was a creation of ours.

The Taliban never would have existed but for the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, which created the refugee crisis which led to the setting up of camps in Pakistan for the survivors of the war. Yet, the Taliban would have existed whether or not the US had anything to do with opposing the Russians, since either way the camps from which they sprang in 1994 would have existed.

29 posted on 08/10/2005 11:54:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa

Actually the Soviets went in because the Jimmy Carter backed Islamics were heading into the soft underbelly of the SU to create a Jihad. Carter backed them to suck the Soviets into their own Vietnam. This was prudent at the moment but the after math wasn't just badly managed, it wasn't managed at all, thus we got the Taliban and Massoud was backed by the Russians after the SU collapsed.


30 posted on 08/11/2005 12:36:47 AM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: jb6

Soviet meddling in internal affairs. People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan coups and the propping up of the puppet regime. Any links?


31 posted on 08/11/2005 1:11:17 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: anonymoussierra; Grzegorz 246; lizol; Lukasz; DarkWaters; GOP_1900AD; Tailgunner Joe; ...

ping


33 posted on 08/11/2005 2:04:50 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Stellar Dendrite

No, but I do have many friends in the Special Operations community, and they would laugh at this nonsense.


34 posted on 08/11/2005 5:00:45 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

It was these lie about Russia being behind Chechnya that first got me started fighting your nonsense. I had known for years what is going on and I could not believe somebody would post this nonsense. Al-Qaeda came out of the war with the Russians in Afganistan, and to suggest that Russia is in league with al-Qaeda is the height of stupidity. The two are mortal enemies.


35 posted on 08/11/2005 5:05:55 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Americans helped the Afganies fight the Russians in Afganistan in the war against the Russians during the seventies and eighties. Many of these fighters later became al-Qaeda, and it included many Chechens.

During the last conflict it was the Russians who manned the tanks for the Northern Alliance against the Taliban and al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda and the Russians are mortal enemies. To suggest the Russians trained any al-Qaeda is the height of stupidity. It was two hundred of my Special Forces buddies who lead the fight.
36 posted on 08/11/2005 5:17:28 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Payback for our role in the Russkies' defeat in Afghanistan?


37 posted on 08/11/2005 5:59:56 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: zarf

"We helped lay the groundwork. We helped create Saddam too."

Both statements are ridiculous.


38 posted on 08/11/2005 6:01:46 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: zarf

Nonsense. The US had nothing to do with the "creation" of Saddam. Statements such as that will destroy any credibility you may aim for.


39 posted on 08/11/2005 7:02:11 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: jb6

You are apparently unaware of the genesis of the Soviet invasion of Afganistan. Jimmy Carter had NOTHING to do with anything going on there.


40 posted on 08/11/2005 7:06:14 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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