Posted on 08/10/2005 1:47:20 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Nightline Tonight Mon., March 14, 2005
That was my son's unit. He was killed on that day 04/04/04. Here is a letter that I wrote to NightLine about the broadcast:
Love
Cindy Sheehan
March 15, 2005
To Whom it May Concern:
Imagine my distress when I turned Night Line on last night and I was confronted with the gory details of my son's murder in Sadr City, Baghdad, Iraq on 04/04/04. Imagine, also, my sorrow and rage at the side of the story that you presented to the American public.
[SNIP]
I was on the Night Line Townhall Meeting in Washington, DC on 01/27/05. After I spoke (which I think was a fluke), Ted Koppel dismissed me as being "emotional." First of all, how can I approach this discussion without emotions, MY SON WAS KILLED, AND KILLED FOR LIES? Second of all, that show was not fair and balanced and I think the conclusion "Should we stay" was foregone.
The show last night was also not fair and balanced. To see all the wives being interviewed who had not lost their husbands and to hear what "hard work" it is to be left behind when their husbands are at war. How hard to you think it is to have a child killed in an illegal and immoral war? In this "wonderful" group of families left behind, we had exactly ONE of the wives call us..she is Diane Rose who was my son's Colonel, Frank Rose's wife. The last time we heard from Diane was in October and we feel we have been left behind by anyone connected to the 2-5 Cavalry. Is support only given if your loved one stays alive? One wife was quoted as saying that Sundays were the hardest for the families left behind. My son was killed on Palm Sunday last year..how does anybody think Sundays are for my family?
Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse.
It would be so amazing if your show would put me, or another parent who lost their child on who disagrees with the war and this administration: to have just an entire show..without presenting the false side of the debate. That would take a lot of courage and integrity. I hope your program will exhibit these qualities.
I also think that Mr. Koppel owes me an apology for the rude way I was treated on his show. After I expressed myself about the war being based on lies and that the troops should be brought home immediately because the war was based on lies, I was not thanked for my comments, or my son's sacrifice. He just said to keep the discussion away from emotions. Then, the wife of a soldier who was killed was allowed to speak and she praised the policies of this deplorable and despicable administration, and she was thanked and praised by the panel.
Let me see if I have this right. You believe that Saddam would have brought about the same reforms (only better) than an elected government should?
You believe because he said he was "secular" he would have avoided the fate of every other secular leaders in the area, like the Shah of Iran, Sadat in Egypt, the King of Jordan, Kaddaffi, the head of Syria, the government of Turkey? Hell, the fate of every "secular" country with a large moslem population.
And, on top of these insights, you agree with the laughably named "Age of Reason" that to appease the terrorists we should all live in caves like goat-herders. It's not so bad. We'll all be better for it.
Have I got that right? God, what is going on here? Has Moby sent out memos?
Rusty.
Just give it up.
" I see the madwoman .." and she's in the mirror.
Leave NP alone.
Beware the stalker troll
for he posts nonsensical
haiku
Of course not.
Are you suggesting that spreading anti-war propoganda helps this effort?
Anti-IRAQ-war, yes.
Sounds like she's a typical anti-American, anti-Semitic POS from the Code Pinkos. I think it's WAAAAY too late for her to put on the tin-foil hat, she's been brain-washed already.
So am I, and I voted for him! ;-)
Sleeper troll, I guess, having been here since 2001. What should I do, now that you've blown my cover?
Three things:
Stalker, troll, etc., have become vastly overused here lately. Disagree with someone, dislike someone, take offense at something someone says? Why, they must be... TROLLS!
Yours was not a haiku, mine was.
Have a nice day, and thank the Founders for the First Amendment.
What should you do?
Leave the poster you are harassing alone.
That would be the wisest and smartest choice.
There have been people banned for harassment.
Well, if she's the "moral leader," we've got a lot to worry about.
Sounds like everybody's trying to get on the train.
MM, I wondered about that, too; she sounds like somebody's pet or project, doesn't she?
Oh, my, the circle grows smaller, doesn't it?
Also, if you didn't like the nonsensical 'poem' posted to you, perhaps it isn't something you yourself should do?
Your "RED QUEEN" posts are getting old and tiresome.
"Perfect masculinity is sociopathic."
-Goff
http://tinyurl.com/73raj
I never said he wasn't "a secularist and Westernizer". I just don't buy that he was an enemy of the Islamists. History is full of instances where two factions, although having opposing philosophies, managed to form an alliance between them. This one is no different.
Iraq was a regime which had socialist sympathies and which tended to be pro-Soviet. It had stronger hold on power as it mobilised more support among lower poorer classes.
Yet inspite of having all that power, it was defeated in all of three weeks.
When Assad or Saddam Huddein had problem at most it was buried in small print.
So enlighten us. Tell us about a major attack that the Islamists carried out against Hussein that was then buried in small print.
So many of us that are Christians have woken up to the FACT that WE are JEWS too by heritage and hope. That's something that the Jews will not understand. I simply see the Jews as people that don't believe the Messiah has come yet. When he comes back for the second time, to us, it will be the first time, for them. Then we will all be together. No biggie. Jesus was compassionate with Thomas when he said "Unless I put my hand in His side, my finger in his hands..."
Genesis 12:3
I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."
He's about the only historical cover they have.
However I believe that Wilson's air-headed dream was of a kum-ba-ya, can't we all get along, type of world government.
OTOH, the neo-con dream nightmare is of worldwide hegemony characterized by perpetual (preferably, small) wars that serve the purpose of discouraging dissent, both foreign and domestic.
"Oh, my, the circle grows smaller, doesn't it?"
It sure does. Stan Goff was even with Cindy Sheehan, Joe Wilson and Ray McGovern at the Conyers flea circus:
BELLACIAO - Cindy Sheehan Deserves Answers: Cindy’s Speech at the Downing Street Memo Hearing - Cindy Sheehan - Collective Bellaciao
"Audio from Cindy, the DSM hearings (Ray McGovern, Joe Wilson and several members of Congress), and veterans Kelly Dougherty, Aidan Delgado, Dr. Doug Rokke, Dennis Kyne, Michael McPhearson and Stan Goff."
http://tinyurl.com/9whow
Mo1 found a message on Cindy's web site from - tada -- Melody Townsel!!
Who is Stan Goff?
There may be Arab leaders who wish OBL would simply go away, but the Jihadists have NO enemies among fellow Muslims.
To think for a moment that when push comes to shove the ME Muslims of any stripe are going to side with us is delusional.
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