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Michael Schiavo Poised To Sue Caregivers
Tampa Bay Online ^ | 8/10/05 | David Sommer

Posted on 08/10/2005 10:38:54 AM PDT by marshmallow

CLEARWATER - Michael Schiavo has asked a court to waive the two-year statute of limitations on filing a medical malpractice lawsuit against one or more of his deceased wife's caregivers.

Terri Schiavo, 41, died March 31 after her feeding tube was removed after a seven-year court battle.

Schiavo's attorney in this case, Mark Perenich, said he was not able to discuss the proposed lawsuit behind Tuesday's request for an extension of the two-year statute of limitations.

By law, medical malpractice lawsuits must be filed within two years of the alleged misconduct unless an extension is granted.

In October 2003, Terri Schiavo's feeding tube was removed on court order. Doctors reinserted it on orders from Gov. Jeb Bush.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; greed; hildythreat; hino; itsover; murder; pyramidscheme; schiavo; schindler; scumbag; serialkiller; showmethemoney; slipperyslope; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; wifekiller
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To: nicmarlo
No doubt about it, very low potassium is dangerous. I'm glad you are past your problem with it.

Terri's hypokalemia was a single episode -- one lone blood test. Even that was a one-time thing, not a chronic condition (more reason to think it had nothing to do with a persistent dietary disorder). It was treated right away and her potassium level normalized within hours. It stayed normal thereafter.

What caused it? Various kinds of stress can do it. Dr. Thogmartin thought it was perhaps the defibrillations or epinephrine administered in the frantic efforts to revive Terri. Or, it may have been from IV fluid. With several good candidates at hand to explain a one-time situation, you don't have to looking for some far-fetched theory like bulimia.

We can rule out bulimia for another reason now, based on the autopsy. If it had been low potassium that caused Terri's cardiac arrest, the damage would have been global. She would have suffered anoxic damage -- oxygen deprivation -- to other organs, including the heart itself. But that was not the case and her heart remained healthy.

Instead, the injury was limited to her brain, and mainly the front part of her brain. Pressure to the carotid arteries, which supply oxygen to that part of the brain, must now be considered the prime candidate as the cause of Terri's so-called collapse.

541 posted on 08/15/2005 12:23:42 PM PDT by T'wit (Bioethicists have the same M.O. as Ted Bundy, except they have graduate degrees and less charm.)
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To: T'wit
We can rule out bulimia for another reason now, based on the autopsy. If it had been low potassium that caused Terri's cardiac arrest, the damage would have been global. She would have suffered anoxic damage -- oxygen deprivation -- to other organs, including the heart itself. But that was not the case and her heart remained healthy.

Instead, the injury was limited to her brain, and mainly the front part of her brain. Pressure to the carotid arteries, which supply oxygen to that part of the brain, must now be considered the prime candidate as the cause of Terri's so-called collapse.

It's too bad, of course, that no real examinations were allowed after MS got the $$$millions rehab money; if Terri had been given state of the art tests with that money, and had the implants been removed from Terri's brain prior to the $$million award....well, one just doesn't know what all could have helped Terri, does one? For some, it was "best" that nothing be done to try to help Terri.

542 posted on 08/15/2005 12:38:49 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Dustbunny
>> There are no words to describe what a piece of $hit this man is.

I think there are maybe a few words that could describe him -- not that we could use them in a family forum. Several of these words are primarily known to longshoremen, pimps and sensible mothers who keep a bar of lye soap handy to wash your mouth out if you say any of them.

543 posted on 08/15/2005 12:39:27 PM PDT by T'wit (Bioethicists have the same M.O. as Ted Bundy, except they have graduate degrees and less charm.)
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To: nicmarlo
After Michael got the $$, Terri was treated with unfailing cruelty. Or as some perceptive observer around here put it, no kindness was too small to deny to Terri. Some future Freud can write a treatise on the depths of human hatred and evil revealed in the teamwork of Felos, Bushnell, Greer and Michael Schiavo.

This is the season for awards. My award for the worst of the lot (a very, very tough call) goes to Mr. Best Guardian himself who pulled the plug on his mother, pulled the plug on his father, killed his wife's cats, stole his wife's wedding rings, embezzled his wife's trust fund and used the money to kill his wife.

Tomorrow he'll be whining that he's widowed and an orphan.

544 posted on 08/15/2005 1:06:24 PM PDT by T'wit (Bioethicists have the same M.O. as Ted Bundy, except they have graduate degrees and less charm.)
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To: T'wit
Did you know that Dr. Ronald E. Cranford (a/k/a Dr. Humane Death...who testified in favor of Terri being "put down" due to her alleged "vegetative" state) had a hand, many years ago, in writing/consulting in the reports of several of the "National Commission for the Protection of Human Subjects of Biomedical and Behavioral Research" (for short: "Protection of Human Subjects Commission") Reports, one being, "Defining Death" (pdf file)? Of course, not only does the Commission Title, Protection of Human Subjects, sound innocuous and misleading, but the title of this report is also quite misleading....as "death" does not really mean dead as it has traditionally been understood. Rather, "quality of life" comes into play with "defining death."

What's quite frightening, as well, is that these same "reports" have been cited by different Judges in their opinions to justify the dehydration of the disabled and/or withholding of "medical treatment," which, of course, was redefined to include traditionally understood basic necessities for every living creature, such as food and water.

"Vegetative state," a subjective term, has also be redefined over the years (I believe even Dr. Cranford keeps changing what he says it means)....it appears the term is an ever-expanding, more broadly interpreted definition, rather than keeping it to a very specific meaning....of course, there are reasons for that, as well.

The more people who can be diagnosed as "vegetative," the more can be gotten rid of. The more gotten rid of, the less demands, expenses and "burdens upon society, insurance companies, and hospitals" there will be by the elderly/disabled.....draining funds which "should" be better spent on America's youth." (That quote is a fairly accurate interpretation of a statement made by one of the "all-knowing" doctors (I believe to be from Janet D. Rowley, M.D., D.Sc., The University of Chicago) in one of the Bioethics Commission's transcripts. You may be interested in seeing a few of the report here.

There are many doctors, neurologists, who, quite rightly, have stated, and continue to state, that they do not fully understand the human brain or its true capacity and functioning. Of course, we all know this to be true. Those who believe doctors are all-knowing only need look at the walking miracles who abound, defying the all-knowing doctors' prognoses.

These redefinitions, such as "death," "medical treatment," and "vegetative," were intentionally put into place quite some time ago (I believe this all began back in the 1970's) in the Protection of Human Subjects Commission to lead up to where we are now, and where we have yet to tread....for their ulitmate use throughout our society upon those who are deemed to be a burden because of their monetary costs and demands. In fact, the Bioethics Commissions continue to discuss how our medical crises should evolve, due to the longer life expectancy of Americans and the consequent drain the older people will be placing on the taxpayers....yes, it was basically said in those terms. I've actually read through several of the reports on that site.

545 posted on 08/15/2005 1:47:35 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: T'wit

Your consideration and analysis of the "facts" on this thread and others is simply awesome!


546 posted on 08/15/2005 2:01:38 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Member since December 1998)
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To: All; amdgmary; floriduh voter

Someone told me that "Dr." Ronald Cranford said that people with Alzheimer's should not have Constitutional rights. Is this true??

My dad who fought in WWII has Alzheimer's. We had a big birthday party for him, and he was so proud to blow out his birthday candles. Today, we took him to a sing along, complete with organ player, and he sang, and clapped his hands along with the music. He loves ice cream. He loves to eat period. He loves so many things that we all do.

My dad did such tough duty for his country, and could not see the movie Titanic that many folks saw several times for entertainment. Why? Because when he was in the Navy, he saw a ship next to him sink, and all of the sailors in the ship drowned, and there was nothing they could do to save them. Then my dad lost his brother in the war.

And "Dr." Cranford is saying that he and other disabled people do not have constitutional rights.

"Dr." Cranford has the freedom of speech to say these horrible things, because men like my dad (some who have Alzheimer's now) fought for his freedom.


547 posted on 08/15/2005 3:41:16 PM PDT by Sun (Call U.S. senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762; tell them to give Roberts an up or down vote.)
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To: nicmarlo
I asked two Freeper docs about the scan and both said it was the kind of trauma you might expect from a car wreck -- except Terri wasn't in a wreck.

However, that's not a fracture of her right femur, it's a bone bruise. Which is also pretty unusual and maybe even more difficult to explain :-) Something with a lot of pressure on the area but not the kind of extreme trauma that might snap the bone.

The compression fracture to her spine at L1 is even odder. The BACKS of the adjacent ribs are fractured. Sometimes ribs are injured in CPR, but not in the back! Something put a lot of force on that specific spot to fracture the spine and ribs. An RN friend familiar with the case and I both think it was Michael's left knee. His right knee was on her right thigh, causing the bone bruise. He's a big man, twice her size, so if he pinned her that way and put her in a strangle hold, she didn't have a chance.

Oh, and did we all know that Terri's blood showed lactic acidosis? That's a condition caused by extreme exertion in the absence of oxygen -- like fighting desperately for her last breath.

548 posted on 08/15/2005 3:49:17 PM PDT by T'wit (Bioethicists have the same M.O. as Ted Bundy, except they have graduate degrees and less charm.)
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To: Sun

I believe that is true, that he Dr. Cranford made that comment....I will try to find out where I've read that; I do believe I recall Sean Hannity even confronted him with that statement during his t.v. program a few months ago.


549 posted on 08/15/2005 3:49:59 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: marshmallow

Seems like getting the state to murder his wife isn't enough for this guy.


550 posted on 08/15/2005 3:54:06 PM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: T'wit; Sun; amdgmary; floriduh voter
Yes, Sean did ask him about that, and the "good" doctor admitted to saying those in vegetative states should have no constitutional right and that it's senseless to feed those with advanced Alzheimer's with feeding tube.

Transcript: Dr. Ronald Cranford Talks With Hannity & Colmes
Wednesday, March 23, 2005

* * *

HANNITY: Did you once say that people in vegetative states should have no constitutional rights? Did you once, sir, say that patients with advanced Alzheimer's Disease, it makes no sense at all to put a feeding tube in them? Did you say those things?

CRANFORD: I think I did write an article on constitutional rights many years ago with another constitutional scholar about the constitutional rights in a vegetative state...

HANNITY: So you said it?

CRANFORD: Yes. Yes, I did.

HANNITY: So people with Alzheimer's Disease, sir, it makes to sense at all to put a feeding tube in them and that people in a vegetative state have no constitutional rights? You said those things?

CRANFORD: Those are two things. With the second thing, with the advanced Alzheimer's, if it's advanced Alzheimer's it doesn't make sense to put a feeding tube in them because if they can't — they're at a point where they need a feeding tube, they're so severely demented...

COLMES: All right. Dr. Cranford, we thank you very much for your time tonight.

[snip]


551 posted on 08/15/2005 3:56:57 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: T'wit
did we all know that Terri's blood showed lactic acidosis? That's a condition caused by extreme exertion in the absence of oxygen -- like fighting desperately for her last breath.

Yes, I've read that.

As far as the bone bruise on the thigh....I thought the report showed there was a fracture to the femur...not a bruise. But, since I'm not a doctor (and haven't read the scan recently), I'm sure my recollection is incorrect. Yes, I've also read that broken ribs (in the FRONT) do happen during CPR....NOT, however, IN THE BACK. Thanks for sharing that information, as some was new to me.

552 posted on 08/15/2005 4:00:07 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: tutstar

I'd really like to know what permanent results there is from short term bulemia and how that can be determined 15 years later after so much else has been done to the body. Doesn't make sense. I'm just curious is all.


553 posted on 08/15/2005 4:18:30 PM PDT by Hildy ("When you want something you've never had, you've got to do something you've never done.")
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To: nicmarlo
And it also says there was no trauma was found; I find that hard to believe,

So the ME says there was "LIKELY" no bulimia and you believe that. But he said there was no trauma and you don't believe that. You can't have it both ways.

554 posted on 08/15/2005 4:20:16 PM PDT by Hildy ("When you want something you've never had, you've got to do something you've never done.")
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To: Hildy

Does "Able Danger" mean anything to you? But I can have it both ways, and have already explained this in detail, in anticipation of your response....please re-read that answer.


555 posted on 08/15/2005 4:21:52 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

MS DID NOT GET MILLIONS. At least don't make things up.


556 posted on 08/15/2005 4:22:03 PM PDT by Hildy ("When you want something you've never had, you've got to do something you've never done.")
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To: Hildy

But, Hildy, you are the one making things up. I don't and have never.


557 posted on 08/15/2005 4:23:16 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
It's too bad, of course, that no real examinations were allowed after MS got the $$$millions rehab money; if Terri had been given state of the art tests with that money, and had the implants been removed from Terri's brain prior to the $$million award....well, one just doesn't know what all could have helped Terri, does one? For some, it was "best" that nothing be done to try to help Terri.

All of the money awarded to Terri was used for her care. The money Michael got was separate. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you didn't make it up, you just don't know what you're talking about.

558 posted on 08/15/2005 4:28:21 PM PDT by Hildy ("When you want something you've never had, you've got to do something you've never done.")
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To: Hildy

But Terri/Michael were awarded $$millions Hildy.

Michael chose to spend her rehab money on lawyer fees getting her killed, instead.

He didn't spend it on rehab.

He didn't even spend on hospice; illegal Medicaid monies were spent on her care there.

Surely you know this.


559 posted on 08/15/2005 4:30:28 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
I'm not a doctor either, but I keep researching :-)
560 posted on 08/15/2005 4:32:40 PM PDT by T'wit (Bioethicists have the same M.O. as Ted Bundy, except they have graduate degrees and less charm.)
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