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To: nicmarlo
I asked two Freeper docs about the scan and both said it was the kind of trauma you might expect from a car wreck -- except Terri wasn't in a wreck.

However, that's not a fracture of her right femur, it's a bone bruise. Which is also pretty unusual and maybe even more difficult to explain :-) Something with a lot of pressure on the area but not the kind of extreme trauma that might snap the bone.

The compression fracture to her spine at L1 is even odder. The BACKS of the adjacent ribs are fractured. Sometimes ribs are injured in CPR, but not in the back! Something put a lot of force on that specific spot to fracture the spine and ribs. An RN friend familiar with the case and I both think it was Michael's left knee. His right knee was on her right thigh, causing the bone bruise. He's a big man, twice her size, so if he pinned her that way and put her in a strangle hold, she didn't have a chance.

Oh, and did we all know that Terri's blood showed lactic acidosis? That's a condition caused by extreme exertion in the absence of oxygen -- like fighting desperately for her last breath.

548 posted on 08/15/2005 3:49:17 PM PDT by T'wit (Bioethicists have the same M.O. as Ted Bundy, except they have graduate degrees and less charm.)
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To: T'wit; Sun; amdgmary; floriduh voter
Yes, Sean did ask him about that, and the "good" doctor admitted to saying those in vegetative states should have no constitutional right and that it's senseless to feed those with advanced Alzheimer's with feeding tube.

Transcript: Dr. Ronald Cranford Talks With Hannity & Colmes
Wednesday, March 23, 2005

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HANNITY: Did you once say that people in vegetative states should have no constitutional rights? Did you once, sir, say that patients with advanced Alzheimer's Disease, it makes no sense at all to put a feeding tube in them? Did you say those things?

CRANFORD: I think I did write an article on constitutional rights many years ago with another constitutional scholar about the constitutional rights in a vegetative state...

HANNITY: So you said it?

CRANFORD: Yes. Yes, I did.

HANNITY: So people with Alzheimer's Disease, sir, it makes to sense at all to put a feeding tube in them and that people in a vegetative state have no constitutional rights? You said those things?

CRANFORD: Those are two things. With the second thing, with the advanced Alzheimer's, if it's advanced Alzheimer's it doesn't make sense to put a feeding tube in them because if they can't — they're at a point where they need a feeding tube, they're so severely demented...

COLMES: All right. Dr. Cranford, we thank you very much for your time tonight.

[snip]


551 posted on 08/15/2005 3:56:57 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: T'wit
did we all know that Terri's blood showed lactic acidosis? That's a condition caused by extreme exertion in the absence of oxygen -- like fighting desperately for her last breath.

Yes, I've read that.

As far as the bone bruise on the thigh....I thought the report showed there was a fracture to the femur...not a bruise. But, since I'm not a doctor (and haven't read the scan recently), I'm sure my recollection is incorrect. Yes, I've also read that broken ribs (in the FRONT) do happen during CPR....NOT, however, IN THE BACK. Thanks for sharing that information, as some was new to me.

552 posted on 08/15/2005 4:00:07 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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