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Despite Illegal Status, Buyers Get Home Loans
LA Times, via The Nation via Laura Ingraham.com ^ | August 9, 2005 | Anna Gorman

Posted on 08/09/2005 6:33:00 AM PDT by hattend

Silvia Avalos, a hairstylist, and her husband, Jose Luis Avalos, a busboy, are among the people Mancera is talking about. They were tired of spending their money on rent each month but didn't want to use fake Social Security numbers to buy a home.

After friends told them they could buy legally, they found a two-bedroom condo northeast of San Francisco for $280,000. They moved in as soon as escrow closed.

"We saw it as an investment," Silvia Avalos said. "While you are here, you have somewhere to live that is yours. And if you return home [to Mexico], you can sell it."

Another prospective buyer, Aaron Sanchez, was pre-approved for a $200,000 loan after taking a class sponsored by ACORN, an advocacy group for the poor, on how to make offers and apply for mortgages. The 32-year-old illegal immigrant from Oaxaca, Mexico, has worked at the same furniture company in the San Gabriel Valley for 14 years. He wants each of his two children to have a room. It is a luxury, he knows, that will be hard to afford.

"I think I can find a house," Sanchez said, "but a small house."

The opportunity to get people like the Avalos and Sanchez families into the market begins with the IRS, which is happy to collect peoples' taxes, regardless of their immigration status.

Nearly a decade ago, the IRS began giving out Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers so people without Social Security numbers could pay taxes. Since then, more than 8 million applicants have received numbers, and about 2 million are used annually on tax returns.

The IRS knows illegal immigrants are using the numbers to get mortgages.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; cheapclownhouses; illegalalien; immigrantlist
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1 posted on 08/09/2005 6:33:01 AM PDT by hattend
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To: hattend

Yep, working in a furniture company is one of those jobs that Americans just won't do.


2 posted on 08/09/2005 6:35:59 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: hattend
Another factor is the lenders' low profile. Citibank, for example, has been offering loans to illegal immigrants in California under a pilot program since September. But it has not advertised widely and wouldn't discuss details with a reporter. It has relied largely on ACORN and individual immigrants and real estate agents to get out the word.

"Citibank is the largest financial institution in the world," said Gary Acosta, a co-founder of the Latino real estate group. "They are interested in the business opportunity. They think it is the right thing to do. But they are probably not interested in getting involved in the public debate that's taking place right now."

Acosta said that also, the bank probably wants to test the loans before advertising and opening the floodgates.

Damn, Citibank is an enabler.

3 posted on 08/09/2005 6:36:12 AM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: hattend
Since then, more than 8 million applicants have received numbers, and about 2 million are used annually on tax returns.

So much for the 'illegals pay taxes, too' line of BS.

4 posted on 08/09/2005 6:37:05 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: hattend
pre-approved for a $200,000 loan after taking a class sponsored by ACORN, an advocacy group for the poor

They don't sound so poor to me. I thought Bush was keeping the poor down & homeless?

5 posted on 08/09/2005 6:38:23 AM PDT by Living Free in NH
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Don't you love how a hairdresser and a busboy can qualify for a $280,000 mortgage?

Why don't they tell the truth, there are 16 adults living in that house.


6 posted on 08/09/2005 6:40:06 AM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: hattend

Just lovely..............my hsuband and I had to jump through I don't know how many hoops just to get a $55,000 mortgage and illegals are bieings handed ones for $200,000.

someone tell me what is wrong with this picture?


7 posted on 08/09/2005 6:41:20 AM PDT by Gabz (Smoking ban supporters are in favor of the Kelo ruling.)
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To: hattend

Citibank needs to be investigated.


8 posted on 08/09/2005 6:41:41 AM PDT by RoyalsFan (Freepmail me if you want on my Kansas City Royals ping list)
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To: hattend

I'd like to know how a busboy and a hairdresser qualify for a TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLAR home loan.

A busboy.
A hairdresser.

I don't care if they are legal or illegal, that doesn't sound right.


9 posted on 08/09/2005 6:41:51 AM PDT by Woman on Caroline Street (I'm not a canned good. Please don't label me.)
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To: hattend

Well, Citigroup is just doing what the government itself is sanctioning. It is the policy of Fedgov to allow considerable undocumented immigration, thus creating a market, so why on earth shouldn't business be expected to cater to that market?

Folks who think we are going to ever see tens of millions of illegal latin americans deported are living in a fantasy world. I just think we are lucky Mexico and central/south america is not muslim, unlike the european expanded labor pool primary source.


10 posted on 08/09/2005 6:42:53 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Woman on Caroline Street

Exactly


11 posted on 08/09/2005 6:42:59 AM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: hattend

Lets see :Illegals get hospital care. they get Social Security. They get resident rates at college and free education for their kids while they are here. Now they get home loans/ Why bother being legal?


12 posted on 08/09/2005 6:45:32 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: hattend
Don't worry, Bush will step in soon and offer strong, articulate leadership to stop this corporate enabling of the illegal invasion.

/sarcasm

13 posted on 08/09/2005 6:46:03 AM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: Living Free in NH

I think I need to get some help from ACORN.


14 posted on 08/09/2005 6:47:02 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: hattend

Is the American taxpayer guaranteeing those loans? Can't imagine lenders making this a common practice otherwise.


15 posted on 08/09/2005 6:49:03 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: hattend

It's called giving the country away.


16 posted on 08/09/2005 6:49:15 AM PDT by KenmcG414
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A hairdresser and a busboy qualify for a $280,000 loan?

Gads, I had to do the usual hoop-jumping to get the loan for my abandoned bank-repo fixer-upper for $146,000, and ONLY if I could show proof that I already had the mean$ to fix it up BEFORE I bought it.

Something's wrong with this picture...


17 posted on 08/09/2005 6:53:47 AM PDT by pigsmith
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Don't you love how a hairdresser and a busboy can qualify for a $280,000 mortgage?

Yeah...that kind of perplexed me as well...unless they're savers and put %20-25 down.

18 posted on 08/09/2005 6:57:12 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (The function of socialism is to raise suffering to a higher level.)
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To: hattend
Don't you love how a hairdresser and a busboy can qualify for a $280,000 mortgage? Why don't they tell the truth, there are 16 adults living in that house.

Or it's going to be a meth factory.

19 posted on 08/09/2005 6:57:14 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: hattend

all the federal government has to do is pay local athorities $50 each for every illegal alien they hand over to INS, and millions of them would be rounded up in short order.


20 posted on 08/09/2005 6:57:31 AM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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