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Hillary's Media Spinners Deny Bill's Impeachment
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/9/91627.shtml ^ | Aug. 9, 2005

Posted on 08/09/2005 6:27:59 AM PDT by Maria S

Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro's announcement yesterday that she intends to challenge Hillary Clinton for her Senate seat has already sent Mrs. Clinton's media spinners into overdrive - with at least one news outlet claiming that her husband was never impeached.

After recycling the old news that Pirro's hubby Albert was convicted of tax fraud and had fathered an out-of-wedlock child, the New York Daily News insisted that Bill Clinton was "nearly impeached for lying about his relationships with Paula Jones and Monica Lewinsky."

Nice try. On December 19, 1998, Mr. Clinton became the first elected president in U.S. history to be impeached. [Impeached President Andrew Johnson wasn't elected - a fact that matters in a process that otherwise involves the House "overturning the will of the people."]

And since the Clinton co-presidency was sold as a "buy one, get one free" deal - the taint of impeachment tarnishes Hillary as well.

Each time the press insists on re-airing Mr. Pirro's dirty laundry, Jeanine Pirro's campaign should waste no time in treating the public to a little impeachment history lesson.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demlies; denial; hillary; impeachedx42; pirro
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To: Stand Watch Listen
So yes. Bill Clinton was certainly impeached.

Yes, He WAS impeached but the Senate failed to convict. Nevertheless, he was impeached. Those silly Dems and their lib media friends are trying to change the meaning of words.

21 posted on 08/09/2005 6:52:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Peach
Hillary's spinners are saying Bill was NEARLY impeached?

Sure, just like he NEARLY got a BJ from Monica.

22 posted on 08/09/2005 6:53:00 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Actually, its more like:

House impeachment = criminal trial
Senate hearing = sentencing

Bill Clinton's deal was rather like having a guy convicted of child molestation, and then being given a suspended sentence.

You know, kinda like what goes on in court rooms around this country every day.

23 posted on 08/09/2005 6:53:17 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

So - indicted but not convicted?


24 posted on 08/09/2005 6:54:08 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Gone GF

I think that many people's misunderstanding of the word directly results from successful spinning.


25 posted on 08/09/2005 6:54:12 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Maria S
"Nearly impeached"?

Completely impeached and completely disbarred.

26 posted on 08/09/2005 7:00:45 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Let's Roll
>"So - indicted but not convicted?"

No He was convicted, but given a cigar for his troubles.

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27 posted on 08/09/2005 7:01:39 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: Let's Roll
So - indicted but not convicted?

Yes....though........... IMHO...not convicted because of an absence of any action by the Senate. (Dole just brought forth some procedural actions, just played it up for a bit..then allowed the Dems/MSM control the proceedings to its inevitable non-action.

From a definition in Webster’s Main Entry: 1im•peach
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English empechen, from Middle French empeechier to hinder, from Late Latin impedicare to fetter, from Latin in- + pedica fetter, from ped-, pes foot -- more at FOOT
1 a : to bring an accusation against b : to charge with a crime or misdemeanor; specifically : to charge (a public official) before a competent tribunal with misconduct in office.

From the U.S. Constitution:

The Constitution deals with the subject of impeachment and conviction at six places. The scope of the power is set out in Article II, Section 4:
"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Other provisions deal with procedures and consequences.
Article I, Section 2 states:
"The House of Representatives . . . shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

Similarly, Article I, Section 3, describes the Senate's role:
"The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present."

The same section limits the consequences of judgment in cases of impeachment:
"Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial,. Judgment and Punishment, according to law."

Of lesser significance, although mentioning the subject, are: Article II, Section 2:
"The President shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

Article III, Section 2:
"The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury . . . ."

28 posted on 08/09/2005 7:06:47 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

"I think that many people's misunderstanding of the word directly results from successful spinning."

Ever since I first learned the meaning of impeachment (long, long before Clinton), people misunderstood its meaning. No spin needed.


29 posted on 08/09/2005 7:12:36 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Maria S

Impeached and convicted of perjury. Quite the President.


30 posted on 08/09/2005 7:24:06 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Maria S

"GET YOUR PEANUTS, POPCORN, ICE COLD BEER HERE!!!"

Oh boy; oh boy; oh boy; (rubbing hands together) I can't wait for this movie to start....hehehehehe


31 posted on 08/09/2005 7:24:46 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Maria S
Clintons are like a washing machine. They try to wash the stains out of their political records and then put the load on spin cycle.

Sorry, Hil and Bill, but Bill WAS impeached. The House of Representatives, by their Constitutional authority, impeached William Jefferson Clinton.
32 posted on 08/09/2005 7:25:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Let's Roll

Convicted but not removed. It still gripes me to have to type that.


33 posted on 08/09/2005 7:26:51 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: Gone GF

While I agree that many always misunderstood the word, I also believe that clear and accurate reporting during the Clinton fiasco would've properly educated a certain percentage of the populace.

For the most part, in the MSM, that never happened.


34 posted on 08/09/2005 7:28:18 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Fenris6

I have heard otherwise intelligent and educated people say that the Senate did not remove him from office because he was found 'innocent' of the charges and so the 'impeachment' didn't count. I heard it from a very liberal minister who was speaking from the pulpit. No, I don't go to church there anymore.


35 posted on 08/09/2005 7:31:36 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Always Right

"Not sure that was intentional."


ROTFLOL!! Believe me .. Hillary's media spinners know perfectly well what "impeached" means.

They're just counting on the American public being too stupid to know [BIG MISTAKE].


36 posted on 08/09/2005 7:35:58 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: HarleyLady27
Hmmmm...seems the FR Pajama Squad need to come to Mrs. Pirro rescue! We need to email all the info we have on the SHE-BEAST's rapist to her office and help with contributions! You know the RNC ain't worth...(clearing throat)shite in counter attacking the Couple from HELL, they go all limpy and run as fast as they can to the nearest rock for cover! Best of Luck to Mrs. Pirro!!
37 posted on 08/09/2005 7:39:50 AM PDT by RoseofTexas (I)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Of course one has to remember that though Rep Henry Hyde and the other House manangers did their duty...the Senate Republicans (led by the spineless Bob Dole) did not do theirs. Not by any stretch of the imagination did Bob Dole allow any evidence be brought forth regarding the Articles of Impeachment.

I think you mean to say, 'Trent Lott did not do his duty.' Bob Dole retired after the 1996 election.

38 posted on 08/09/2005 7:40:27 AM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Ghengis
Yes..thank you for the correction, I appreciate it.

It was Trent Lott that failed to conduct a Senate trial of Clinton.

Guess I confused one Republican 'spineless wonder' for the other.
Bob Dole was certainly retired by Jan 1999 as he was being the 'statesman' spokesman for Viagra.

39 posted on 08/09/2005 7:49:03 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Maria S
Each time the press insists on re-airing Mr. Pirro's dirty laundry, Jeanine Pirro's campaign should waste no time in treating the public to a little impeachment history lesson.

Bringing up impeachment, especially in NY will do far more harm to Pirro's campaign that anything else. It is a subject best left alone.

40 posted on 08/09/2005 7:49:10 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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