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1 posted on 08/09/2005 5:38:56 AM PDT by Chuck54
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To: Chuck54

Who are these people and does it matter at all?


2 posted on 08/09/2005 5:40:08 AM PDT by Chuck54 (Confirm justice Roberts!)
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They are just a bunch of sanctimonious idiots.


3 posted on 08/09/2005 5:41:34 AM PDT by punster
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To: Chuck54

Never heard of this "national" group. Oh well.


4 posted on 08/09/2005 5:42:55 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Chuck54

This is just shameful. Some people don't want equal rights for all, I guess.


6 posted on 08/09/2005 5:43:40 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Chuck54

Never heard of them.


7 posted on 08/09/2005 5:43:42 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Chuck54
LOL, from their website: “Public Advocate plans to stand by this nominee as he will be inevitably attacked by these radical Senators and the far-left special interest groups that see the Court as the only way to advance their political agenda because of their rejection by the American voters.”

oh well....

11 posted on 08/09/2005 5:45:31 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Chuck54

The problem with conservative groups is that they don't have a clue who would be a good Justice. One day they are for him. The next day they are against him. They don't understand the process. They only understand results.


12 posted on 08/09/2005 5:45:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Chuck54
I don't know about this group, but I heard Dr.James Dobson on Hannity last night ....

..and he is carefully checking everything out about Roberts too.

This Romer case is a puzzle....a very serious decision that essentially took the vote away from the good people of Colorado., concerning the homosexual lobby.

I know Dobson will carefully consider this, and he said last night, he hopes our Republican representatives very carefully consider and check all things about this judge....

..and not accept at face value..(I'm paraphrasing)...that he's OK....just like they said Souter was OK.....

...developing

17 posted on 08/09/2005 5:49:00 AM PDT by Guenevere
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They are playing into the hands of the abortionist.

Look that this column from the Boston Globe.

Stopping a judicial conflict of interest

By Christopher D. Morris | August 9, 2005

IN THE presidential campaign, a new threshold in church-state relations was crossed when Catholic bishops threatened to exclude Senator John Kerry from the Eucharist because of his support for Roe v. Wade. The Senate Judiciary Committee is now fully justified in asking these bishops whether the same threats would apply to Supreme Court nominee Judge Roberts, if he were to vote to uphold Roe v. Wade.

The bishops have made this question legitimate because Americans no longer know whether a Catholic judge can hear abortion cases without an automatic conflict of interest. When judges may derive a financial gain from the outcome of a case before them, they must disqualify themselves; this requirement should be even more urgent when the gain in question is full Communion and the promise of eternal life. According to the American Bar Association's Code of Conduct for United States Judges, Canon 3, Section C 1 (c), a judge must disqualify himself when he has ''a financial interest . . . or any other interest that could be affected substantially by the outcome of the proceeding." Maintaining one's membership in the church and the prospect of eternal life surely count as such an interest.

Immanuel Kant held that no decision could be considered impartial or ethical if personal interest in the outcome played any role in it. It is time for this principle to be observed in our judiciary. Asking the bishops to testify would be healthy. If they rescinded the threats made against Kerry, then Roberts would feel free to make his decision without the appearance of a conflict of interest, and Catholic politicians who support Roe v. Wade would gain renewed confidence in their advocacy. If the bishops repeated or confirmed their threats, the Senate Judiciary Committee should draft legislation calling for the automatic recusal of Catholic judges from cases citing Roe v. Wade as a precedent.

Of course, such a new law should cover anyone whose religion makes it impossible for them to decide on their own whether abortion should be legal; therefore, testimony should be taken from the leaders of Protestant, Jewish, Muslim, and other faiths as well. It is clear that several mainline Protestant denominations separate the issue of abortion from church membership and personal salvation; judges from these faiths would face no conflict of interest. Even evangelical Protestants do not oppose abortion at the risk of being separated from a particular church, because their faiths are based on being ''born again," not on adherence to certain articles of faith or a catechism. In theory, the same Holy Spirit that made evangelicals born again could also move them to change a social or political view at any time. (In drafting mandatory recusal legislation, senators should probe the foundations of these beliefs and persuade themselves that evangelicals retained a meaningful, not just a technical, choice.) Inquiry into Judaism, Islam, and other religions should also focus on whether any of them make threats against members who hold particular views about abortion.

It is obvious that mandatory disqualification of Catholic judges from abortion cases would have only the most minor effect on their professional lives. Everyone agrees that people like Justice Antonin Scalia and Roberts are fully able to fairly adjudicate 99 percent of the cases that come before them.

In any case, a Senate investigation of this subject is overdue not simply because of the threats made against Kerry. Christian activists have won a series of court victories that allow use of taxpayer money to help finance their schools, fund their charities, and place their religious symbols in public spaces. If US taxpayers are going to subsidize activities by tax-exempt Christian organizations, they have the right to be told what constraints their followers are under while they sit in judgment of Americans who may not share their religion. When constraints amount to sanctions, impartial decisions are impossible; judges then owe Americans the duty of disqualifying themselves.

One would think Catholic judges would want such a measure in place as a means of honoring their own convictions. That this proposal will no doubt be controversial should not be a reason for failing to pursue it: Political advocacy by religious organizations is on the rise and will only become stronger. If the subject is ducked this time by the Senate Judiciary Committee, it will only come up later in a more aggravated form.

It's time to have this dialogue. Without it, the decisions of our highest court, already tainted by the Bush-Gore election, will increasingly be perceived as self-serving, political, and illegitimate.

19 posted on 08/09/2005 5:50:40 AM PDT by mware (Now we know why the NYT didn't have time to cover AIR AMERIKA)
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To: Chuck54

And we are supposed to be concerned about this group's opinion because........


22 posted on 08/09/2005 5:53:37 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (The ratmedia: always eager to remind us of why we hate them.)
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Don't know the group. However, I'm one of the great Roberts skeptics.


25 posted on 08/09/2005 5:56:39 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Choose LIFE. Circumcision = Barbarism. It's HIS body; what about HIS right to choose?)
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Question:

Roberts supposed "support" for this radical homosexual group - was he in support of the group, or the law involved in the case?

The way I look at it - if Roberts was upholding the letter of the law, he should be commended, even if this was a group a conservative would otherwise not want to be associated with. It would just prove that he is blind to agendas, and is more concerned with the proper execution of law - not exercizing an agenda through the bench.

Does every criminal attorney actually support their client's activities, or are they doing their job by giving them the best defense they can - as required by law?

Is there any evidence that Roberts actually SUPPORTS the CAUSE of these activists? If so, I haven't heard of it.


27 posted on 08/09/2005 5:58:57 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan)
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Those on the 'Christian Fundamentalist Right Wing' as they are affectionately described by both the left and pseudo right..

Have to face certain facts...Roberts is just about as conservative a choice as will ever be offered..

28 posted on 08/09/2005 6:01:11 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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They're probably a bunch of libs that created a "conservative" name, with the intent of making headlines and undermining the Roberts nomination.

Even if they are "legitimate", who cares?


30 posted on 08/09/2005 6:05:38 AM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To set the records straight --

Roberts sat on a mock Supreme Court panel acting as Justice Scalia. It is a common practice for Court of Appeals Judges and District Court Judges in D.C. to volunteer to do this regardless of ideology.

For example, I understand that Jay Sekulo sat as a judge on a mock panel for the California medical marijuana case and he clearly is not pro-marijuana legalization.

Lots of folks are unaware of this practice, but it is common and tells you nothing about ideology of the candidate.

44 posted on 08/09/2005 6:27:31 AM PDT by CWW (Mark Sanford for President on 2008!)
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This is a good opportunity for some fringe groups to get a lot of publicity.


45 posted on 08/09/2005 6:27:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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Withdrawing support for 5 hours of pro bono work on a case while potraying Justice Scalia and the questions he would ask in a moot court trial practice?

Delgado needs to have his head examined.

56 posted on 08/09/2005 6:52:03 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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Do we even know what advice Roberts gave? I think that would be rather significant to know before drawing any conclusions.


60 posted on 08/09/2005 7:11:39 AM PDT by Grig
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read later bump


68 posted on 08/09/2005 10:18:56 AM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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Eugene Delgaudio

Who?

Public Advocate of the United States

What?

Well, AmishDude Enterprises (Motto: "Embezzlement for a better tomorrow.") wholeheartedly approves of John Roberts. Moreover, ADE is currently receiving donations of obscene sums of money that would roll in, if only Yahoo! News would mention us.

70 posted on 08/09/2005 2:44:26 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76)
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