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No On Roberts (Joseph Farah Slams Conservatives For Being Bamboozled By White House Alert)
World Net Daily.com ^ | 08/08/05 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 08/07/2005 10:20:55 PM PDT by goldstategop

I don't know who makes me sicker – President Bush or the "conservatives" who continue to back him and his sell-out choice for the U.S. Supreme Court.

The conservatives eagerly jumped in to throw their support to the unknown John Roberts as soon as the choice to replace Sandra Day O'Connor was announced.

On what basis? The guy was a blank slate – like David Souter and Anthony Kennedy before him.

Then, last week, the Los Angeles Times broke the story that Roberts had volunteered his services – pro bono – to help prepare a landmark homosexual activist case to be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.

He did his job well. But he didn't serve the public interest. And he certainly no longer sounds like the carefully crafted image of a jurist who believes in the Constitution and judicial restraint.

The 1996 Romer vs. Evans case produced what the homosexual activists considered, at the time, its most significant legal victory, paving the way for an even bigger one – Lawrence vs. Texas, the Supreme Court ruling that effectively overturned all laws prohibiting sodomy in the United States.

There was some immediate concern expressed by conservatives following the story. But after being assured by the White House that everything was all right, they quickly fell into line, quietly paving the way for what I predict will be a unanimous or near-unanimous confirmation vote in the U.S. Senate.

Some conservatives even suggested the story in the L.A. Times was designed to divide conservatives. If that isn't a case of blaming the messenger! No, the point of the L.A. Times story was to bring the Democrats on board – to reassure them that Roberts is definitely in the mold of Souter and Kennedy.

As disappointing as Bush has been as president, I really didn't expect him to nominate a constitutionalist to replace O'Connor.

But the vast majority of establishment conservative leaders have no idea how they are being manipulated.

It's really sad.

They simply buy into the White House talking points, which say Roberts was merely being a good soldier for his law firm.

Roberts was a partner in the firm. His job was not in jeopardy if he excused himself from the case on principled moral grounds. That would have been the honorable thing to do – either that, or resign from a law partnership that took such reprehensible clients.

Now that would be the kind of jurist I could support to serve on the Supreme Court for a lifetime appointment.

Walter A. Smith, the attorney in charge of pro bono work at Hogan & Hartson from 1993 to 1997, who worked with Roberts on the Romer case, said Roberts expressed no hesitation at taking the case. He jumped at the opportunity.

"Every good lawyer knows that if there is something in his client's cause that so personally offends you, morally, religiously, if it offends you that you think it would undermine your ability to do your duty as a lawyer, then you shouldn't take it on, and John wouldn't have," he said. "So at a minimum, he had no concerns that would rise to that level."

Keep in mind the intent and result of this case. It overturned a provision of the Colorado Constitution that blocked special rights for people based on their sexual proclivities.

Roberts did not have a moral problem with that. He did not have a moral problem with helping those activists win a major battle in the culture war. He did not have a moral problem with using the Supreme Court to interfere in the sovereign decisions of a sovereign people in a sovereign state. He did not have a moral problem coaching homosexual activists on how to play politics with the court.

This was not just an "intellectual exercise," as some have suggested. Roberts' actions had real impact on the future of our nation.

He ought to be ashamed of himself as a self-proclaimed Catholic. In some dioceses, he would be denied communion for his betrayal of his faith.

He ought to be denied a confirmation vote by the U.S. Senate. But I predict he will get every Republican vote and nearly all of the Democrat votes.

Sad. Tragic. Pathetic.


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To: JCEccles

I hope you never have any gay children.


161 posted on 08/08/2005 12:41:31 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
What am I missing here?

I'm afraid I have no idea....

"The citizens passed a law"? Don't they have a legislature in Colorado?

162 posted on 08/08/2005 12:42:11 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Howlin

If you *do* have a homo kid, and he manages to grow up while avoiding getting himself utterly mowed down by STDs or other deliberately chosen self destructive behavior... then odds on he will be wealthier than his straight siblings.


163 posted on 08/08/2005 12:43:57 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Lancey Howard

The case before the Supreme Court, Romer vs. Evans, dealt with a voter-approved 1992 Colorado initiative that would have allowed employers and landlords to exclude gays from jobs and housing.


164 posted on 08/08/2005 12:44:30 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

"Howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"


165 posted on 08/08/2005 12:44:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
So in your crazy hateful thinking we should send Homosexuals to jail as we do to thieves and murderers.
166 posted on 08/08/2005 12:45:13 AM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If you *do* have a homo kid, and he manages to grow up while avoiding getting himself utterly mowed down by STDs or other deliberately chosen self destructive behavior... then odds on he will be wealthier than his straight siblings.

Is that suppose to be coherent and/or informative?

167 posted on 08/08/2005 12:46:00 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
that would have allowed employers and landlords to exclude gays from jobs and housing.

And fancy that, they could before the initiative was passed, but for piecemeal interference by slobbering looie liberal nanny state gummints.

168 posted on 08/08/2005 12:46:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Howlin

You're playing violins for the wrong folks, howler.


169 posted on 08/08/2005 12:47:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Howlin

Howlin, homosexuality is a sexual deviancy. Is it really something that needs to be shoved down people's throats with a ton of draconian "gay rights laws" that force people to hire them, to rent to them, to subject their children to indoctrination by them, that toss the Boy Scouts off public lands unless they have gay scoutmasters, etc.?

The people of Colorado decided that they didn't want these gay agenda laws passed in their state, so they amended their state constitution to block any such laws. Unless the U.S. Constitution OBLIGATES states to pass such laws (and it doesn't) then how did that voter approved amendment get struck down by the Supreme Court? It got struck down because six socially liberal judges were offended by it, so they made up some way to get rid of it. Read Scalia's dissent and you can see how ludicrous their reasoning was.


170 posted on 08/08/2005 12:47:53 AM PDT by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: Howlin
Not surprisingly, I have convinced myself that Scalia was right.

The plain text of the 14th ammendment on this matter is terse in the extreme - stating simply:

Certainly states can still choose whether to have laws that affect the classes of child molestors, bank robbers or traitors. It is fitting and proper for state and local governments to choose, in various ways, what activities it will find acceptable in the culture and what it won't, and states may allow or prohibit such laws by the jurisdictions within their borders.

If local governments in California were passing laws granting special favors to illegal immigrants, or if those in Utah were granting special favors to polygamists, and if the state passed a constitutional ammendment striking down such laws, that is within the states power.

The 14th ammendment does not mean that all conceivable classes of citizens (or non-citizens ;) can have their own special immunity from any state laws singling out their characteristic actions, whether favorably or unfavorably.

We must be careful to avoid and resist extending the scope of the 14th amendment "equal protection" clause. It is a two edged sword. If it can be used to uphold state laws or amendments deemed unfavorable to gays, it can also be used to uphold laws deemed favorable to gays (and abortionists - as indeed has been the case).

That's the real issue here. Not whether a particular state law or amendment is deemed pro or anti gay, but whether the "equal protection" clause of the 14th amendment gives the Supreme Court jurisdiction to override such state issues.

I think Scalia was right - it does not.

And I trust and pray that Bush made a good choice in Roberts. I am optimistic that he did.

For more comments on the unnatural extension of the 14th amendment to extend the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court, see the fairly readable article UNNATURAL SELECTION

171 posted on 08/08/2005 12:48:47 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: goldstategop
Why would anybody use the LA Times as a source for an argument. Their report was faulty and biased, BIG SURPRISE.

Please consider the following: John G. Roberts, Jr.
This is my compiled response to the absurd and ignorant claim that JGRjr is a Gay Rights Advocate.

JGRjr has spent about 25 years as a lawyer and Judge which equals about 52, 0000 hours in these endeavors. People on FreeRepublic are freaking out about 6.5 hours of that time in which he advised the lawyers on this case about THEIR (not his) appellate case.

Facts about JGRjr’s involvement in this case.
1) He was an employee of the firm of Hogan & Hartson which had 1000 lawyers all over the world handling all sorts of cases on all levels.

2) JGRjr was the head of the Appellate Davison at H & H and as such was obligated to help the attorneys with THEIR appellate cases (including Supreme Court Cases).

3) According to many who worked with him at the time, HE NEVER SAID NO to ANY request for help. I can’t see how he could turn down such a request given that he was the head of the department. Nor was he in a postiion to tell the lawyers what cases they could or could not take.

4) He did not ACCEPT THIS PRO BONO case, he was not a lawyer on this case, he did no work on this case other than in a mock court exercise and with regard to the PROCEEDURAL aspect of appellate law.

5) He has the highest regard and reverence for the Supreme Court and it has been his aim to increase the quality of advocacy before the Court.

General Information about JGR, Jr

1) If he is such a Liberal, Souter Like, Gay Rights, Pro-Abortion advocate, why have the Dems in Congress spent 12 years filibustering his various Presidential nominations?

2) Can you name another “Gay Rights” case of which he had ANY part?

3) Google the phrase “Stop John Roberts” and you get 510 hits from the likes of Naral, Pro-Choice America, MoveOn.Org, People for the American Way, et al.

4) If Charles Schumer, Teddy “The Swimmer” Kennedy, Patrick Leahy, Barbara Boxer, and Harry Reid are against him, can he really be all that bad?
172 posted on 08/08/2005 12:49:22 AM PDT by msnimje
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To: jveritas

Yes, the Constitution allows a landlord not to rent to people based on their race or religion. Period.


173 posted on 08/08/2005 12:50:25 AM PDT by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: puroresu
There is no law that force anyone to hire anyone else or rent to anyone. But at the same there must not be a law that discriminate in hiring or renting to people based on race, gender, religion, or sexual orientations.
174 posted on 08/08/2005 12:52:00 AM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: Howlin
My post, to which Howlin refers, justifying the application of the 14th amendment to the Colorado Amendment 2 case, is wrong, I now think.

Scalia was right to resist this extension of the "equal protection" clause.

175 posted on 08/08/2005 12:52:05 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: msnimje
One more thing. Does anybody know if John Roberts was pleased with the Supreme Court's decision in this case?
Perhaps he had more faith in the court and thought it would come to a different conclusion than the one it did.
176 posted on 08/08/2005 12:53:01 AM PDT by msnimje
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To: jveritas
"Does the Constitution allow....(whatever)"

I'll make this straightforward for you: The Constitution does not "allow" anything - - the Constitution ONLY tells GOVERNMENT those things that GOVERNMENT is allowed to do, and then for good measure goes on to specify some of the things that GOVERNMENT better not even THINK about doing. For example: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." (That's the 1st Amendment.)

P.S. There is a wealth of information about the basics of the US Constitution, and it is all right there at your fingertips courtesy of the internet. Happy surfing!

Regards,
LH

177 posted on 08/08/2005 12:53:21 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Now, help me out here, is THAT an explanation or are we just playing word games now?


178 posted on 08/08/2005 12:53:32 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: msnimje
Agreed. It is transparently obvious that the LATimes is trying to use this case as a wedge issue to split off some of the support for Roberts.
179 posted on 08/08/2005 12:53:45 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: jveritas

Heh.......that's the impression I got!


180 posted on 08/08/2005 12:54:00 AM PDT by Howlin
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