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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 13
Various News Outlets | 8/7/05

Posted on 08/07/2005 5:22:31 PM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aruba; arubancorruption; beth; bethandjug; boycottaruba; carloscharlies; courageousmom; daviejoneslocker; deepak; deepkrap; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kalpooeys; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: TexKat

Who is this Ernie Rizzo?


401 posted on 08/08/2005 3:25:40 PM PDT by stopem
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To: Queen Jadis; Froufrou

Sorry, I must have misunderstood Beth.
My impression was that she was having a momentary lapse of memory due to her hectic day. Same thing we suffer around here, information overload. But I guess I misunderstood.


402 posted on 08/08/2005 3:25:45 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Canadian Outrage

CO, over here - new thread.


403 posted on 08/08/2005 3:26:33 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: RGVTx; Andy'smom; NCjim; sissyjane; antceecee; ruoflaw; Mare; cyborg; kcvl; maggief; Fritzy; ...

Aruba search continues Aug. 8: Several leads have turned up nothing in the search for missing teenager Natalee Holloway, reports NBC’s Kosinski.

Mother of missing Alabama girl criticizes Aruban authorities’ ‘ineptness’

Updated: 4:59 p.m. ET Aug. 8, 2005

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - The mother of an Alabama honors student missing in this Caribbean island for over two months said Monday the investigation into the teen’s disappearance has been marred by ineptitude and more than doubled the reward for help in solving the case to $250,000.

Natalee Holloway’s mother, renewing criticism of authorities on the Dutch Caribbean island, said police had given her copies of statements from witnesses and other documents from the investigation that have led her to believe investigators are on the wrong track.

She declined to give details on the documents or say how she thinks authorities should be handling the case.

The family is also offering a $1 million reward for information leading to the 18-year-old’s safe return. The other reward was raised from $100,000, and Holloway Twitty wanted to publicize the rewards in neighboring Venezuela and Colombia, even though Aruban authorities and the FBI said they don’t believe the teen left the Dutch Caribbean island.

The family has said the reward is a mix of their own money and donations, but they have declined to give a breakdown.

“I hope more money will help bring people forward,” she said in an interview with The Associated Press. “I still don’t feel like this investigation is heading in the right direction.”

Chief Prosecutor Karin Janssen called the criticism unwarranted.

“I’m positive about our progress and very proud of my team,” said Janssen.

Not a trace

Extensive searches by Dutch marines, Aruban police and thousands of volunteers have found no trace of Natalee, who vanished on May 30 during a graduation trip with 124 classmates on the island.

No one has been charged in the disappearance. Seven men were arrested, but all except 18-year-old Joran van der Sloot have been released.

Through his lawyers and family, van der Sloot has acknowledged being on a beach alone with the young woman the day she disappeared but says he left her there unharmed.

MSNBC VIDEO MONDAY AUG 8, 2005 A.M.

404 posted on 08/08/2005 3:27:42 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: hershey
In that most recent video of NH in her mom's car, she looks so adorable and so much like Beth. The way she blinks and the way she talks, just like her mom. It's heartbreaking.

I wonder what would happen if Beth showed up next time wearing clothes similar to ones Natalee wore when she went missing. (Just a thought ... no disrespect intended.)
405 posted on 08/08/2005 3:29:02 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: texasbluebell
Hmm...wonder what that could be.

I hope it was a bullet with his name on it.....

406 posted on 08/08/2005 3:29:11 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: maggief

Wonder who was taping the whole thing.
Did he know he was being taped?

Good job Beth!!!!


407 posted on 08/08/2005 3:30:00 PM PDT by stopem
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To: Dante3
" There are also snuff films."

I mentioned that in the last thread but was criticized for it. They do exist but, are rare and I dont think that was the intention here. WAY too much heat.

408 posted on 08/08/2005 3:30:07 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: stopem

Have another question for anyone who may know the answer.

Why is prosecution waiting for Sept 4 before charging JVDS with a crime?


409 posted on 08/08/2005 3:32:15 PM PDT by stopem
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To: stopem

The FBI knew. They interviewed Beth following the confrontation.


410 posted on 08/08/2005 3:33:57 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: texasbluebell
Possibly a Bracelet & Prayer card. Beth has been handing them out all over the Island. IMHO-Something for the SOB to think about!
411 posted on 08/08/2005 3:34:16 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: Queen Jadis; RGVTx
I thought she said she could not talk about it.

No she said that she could not remember. Now she may have been skirting around in order not to answer Dan, but she stated that she did not remember and that she had not had time to think it all through.

However the object appeared to be a CD to me.

412 posted on 08/08/2005 3:34:26 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: RGVTx; TexKat

And honestly, we were all very well behaved.



RGVTx, Remember when you told your mom that and she found out otherwise? :)
TexKat, Glad you are back 'home' again! Now what's for dinner?


413 posted on 08/08/2005 3:36:04 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
RGVTx, Remember when you told your mom that and she found out otherwise? :) TexKat, Glad you are back 'home' again! Now what's for dinner?

Thank you presently no screen name. And what would Mom say in answer to your whats for dinner question. Leftovers, lol!!

414 posted on 08/08/2005 3:38:59 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: RGVTx

Maybe she gave him a "Pray For Natalee" bracelet??


415 posted on 08/08/2005 3:39:23 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Froufrou

Froufrou, see post #412.


416 posted on 08/08/2005 3:39:45 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: truthluva
Maybe she gave him a "Pray For Natalee" bracelet??

It may have been, but if so he immediately left it on the counter, I saw what looked like a CD in Deepak's hand.

417 posted on 08/08/2005 3:42:05 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Hmmm...a CD? Pics of Natalee in happy times? That would be interesting.


418 posted on 08/08/2005 3:43:56 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: cajungirl
Several weeks ago I was so disgusted with the state of affairs in Aruba.. I decided to write letters to the Queen and the PM just to let them know one person's perception... the importance of our US/Netherlands relationship and urging the Queen and PM to take a position... I was that frustrated!!!

A Queen in formal letters are usually addressed HRM or HM... then the name... so my letters went to HRM Queen Beatrix.. the Prime Minister is Jon Peter Balkenende...
But still have not heard anything.. the letters are probably sitting on someone's lonely desk... but I felt better for writing them... I just felt so helpless...and so committed to Beth's plight...

I do not know anyone in the Netherlands.. but just needed to get my anger on paper... Did not think that TexKat would appreciate my yelling..

Cheers!
419 posted on 08/08/2005 3:44:14 PM PDT by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: hummingbird

"I don't think anyone else was detained, but wasn't Lorenzo questioned at some point?"

Yes, Lorenzo was questioned but released. I can't help but wonder why they questioned him. There have been so many rumors about Lorenzo. Some of which are the following:

He held Natalee as a prisoner in his basement house.
He holds rave parties at his ranch home, which the police have not searched.
Lorenzo has two homes - One for Raves - the other one for him and his mom.
Natalee's clothing has been seen at his home.
Natalee had dinner with him at the HI earlier in the week.
Lorenzo might be PVDS' son.
SM posters think Lorenzo is a partner of Pink Porn Productions.

I don't know if the above are rumors or true. I keep hearing that no one can locate a definate photo of Lorenzo. If the porno rumor is true, that makes me wonder about the rest of the rumors, in light of the porno connection we've read about previously. In no way am I saying that Natalee would knowingly involve herself with porno people. Unfortunately those porno sickos don't wear a sign on their chest to warn innocent victims.

God only knows what evil might be involved in Natalee's disappearance. Oddly enough, yesterday I read a post on SM concerning Venezuela. According to the post, Venezuela has just decided to forbid our DEA people from investigating drugs in their country. If true, why now? Does it also have something to do with Natalee? Sen. Shelby, early on, said this case is not typical. What did he mean? So many questions and so few answers.


420 posted on 08/08/2005 3:46:06 PM PDT by Pepper777
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