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Reputed Hitler kin diary cites family hell
New York Daily News ^ | 8/6/05 | CORKY SIEMASZKO

Posted on 08/07/2005 12:28:27 PM PDT by wagglebee

Adolf Hilter was terrorized by a tyrannical father and became a teenage bully who beat his baby sister regularly, according to newly discovered diaries.

"Once again I feel my brother's loose hand across my face," Paula Hitler reportedly wrote in a journal uncovered by American historian Timothy Ryback and German researcher Florian Beierl.

Another memoir, this one purportedly written by Hitler's half-brother Alois and half-sister Angela, recounted a scene where Hitler's mother, Klara, threw herself over her son's body to protect him. "Without a sound she absorbs it," the memoir states.

"This is a picture of a completely dysfunctional family that the public has never seen before," Beierl told The Guardian, a respected British newspaper. "The terror of the Third Reich was cultivated in Hitler's own home."

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: familyviolence; fascism; freaks; genocide; hitler; holocaust; nazis; worldwarii
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To: 50sDad

So you'd argue that the percentage of serial killers that were physically or sexually abused by their parents isn't any higher than the general population as a whole?


21 posted on 08/07/2005 1:01:20 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Association does not prove causality; in other words, true true unrelated.


22 posted on 08/07/2005 1:05:02 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: wagglebee

I could honestly care less the reasons, it's the result that matters. Such as 6 million Jews and over 20 million Russians dead because of his warped mind. It might be of concern to some liberals, but all that matters to me is that he blew his brains out in a bunker in Berlin.


23 posted on 08/07/2005 1:07:10 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Unleash Karl Rove!!!)
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To: Pharmboy

People seem awfully uncomfortable with anything that make make their very simplistic vision of the world more complex.

The majority of horribly abused children aren't serial killers, but essentially all serial killers of which evidence is known (with the possible exception of Dahmer) endured either horrible sexual abuse, physical abuse, a severe head injury, or various combinations of the above, as childen.


24 posted on 08/07/2005 1:10:20 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: MediaMole
What's the over/under on these being forgeries?

Well, I'd say the forgery side got a hundred point boost once the news was broken by someone named "Corky".
25 posted on 08/07/2005 1:16:55 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Magic 8 Ball

Welcome to FR. There are certain patterns that run in the families of tyrants. The DSM-VI is not leftist psycho-babble. Time will tell if this diary is authentic or not. But it does not remove Hitler's own responsibility, as I'm sure you know.


26 posted on 08/07/2005 1:17:35 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

oops DSM-IV


27 posted on 08/07/2005 1:18:20 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Strategerist
Gacy?? Bundy??

These folks mainly have a problem with faulty wiring. Child abuse causes serial killing about the same as 2 glasses of milk per day. Don't buy it.

What I would more likely buy is that parents of serial killers and other miscreants share genes that predisposes them to this type of behavior.

28 posted on 08/07/2005 1:19:42 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: Strategerist
And I believe it is you who has the simplistic vision.
29 posted on 08/07/2005 1:20:55 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: wagglebee
"So now the left will try to blame Hitler's family for the 20 million+ deaths he is responsible for."

I suppose they are more likely to use it as an excuse for government control of the family and of children.

30 posted on 08/07/2005 1:21:12 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: 50sDad
"It's all just the result of bad parenting."

Not just that, but it's strictly the fathers fault.

Liberals believe white men are the root of all evil.

31 posted on 08/07/2005 1:29:54 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: wagglebee

That would be an old IBM typewriter, right? I wonder what font they used.


32 posted on 08/07/2005 1:31:50 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Pharmboy

No. Hitler was only a vector. The terror of the third reich was cultivated by 200 years of modernist drivel. Socialism, Communism and fascism and the rejection of western civilisation was the end product. It was Hitler himself who was the product of his own home.


33 posted on 08/07/2005 1:33:30 PM PDT by virgil
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To: wagglebee

Hitler had low self esteem, there it is right there. I guess that makes up for the millions of people that died as a result of his regime.


34 posted on 08/07/2005 1:33:46 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Pharmboy

If the HOMELIFE of the Hitler family 'created' the evil monster Adolph was, WHY then didn't the OTHER children become evil messianic tyrants? Shouldn't every child in the house have become a ranting murderer?


35 posted on 08/07/2005 1:36:09 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: wagglebee
And they were written on a typewriter! Probably at a Kinko's in Texas.

Lucy got more 'splainin' to do?

36 posted on 08/07/2005 1:36:38 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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To: ClearBlueSky
Exactly.

And further, the definition of an "abusive" home has recently widened to the point of irrelevance. Essentially all the boys I grew up with had been hit with their dad's belt a few times. Did we all come from abusive homes?

37 posted on 08/07/2005 1:41:35 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: Strategerist; 50sDad
[To 50s Dad] So you'd argue that the percentage of serial killers that were physically or sexually abused by their parents isn't any higher than the general population as a whole?

Probably not if you matched region, time and socioeconomic status.

38 posted on 08/07/2005 1:43:38 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: wagglebee

Hey if only Adolf had been "raised by a village" like Saint Hillary advocates, he would have grown up to be a respected painter, no doubt a liberal philanthropist, and emigrated to the United States one day where he would have naturally become a sensitive, caring, Democrat.

You know, somebody who could rant with genuine compassion, like Howard Dean.


39 posted on 08/07/2005 1:48:12 PM PDT by Mad Mammoth (R. Lee Ermey "What do you MEAN, IF Jesus was a Marine? He IS a MARINE! The Toughest One Of Em All!")
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To: Sacajaweau
That would be an old IBM typewriter, right? I wonder what font they used.

One can only wonder.

40 posted on 08/07/2005 1:52:15 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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