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Teacher licked students' wounds
Herald Sun ^ | Aug. 06, 2005 | Herald Sun

Posted on 08/06/2005 1:44:51 PM PDT by holymoly

AN American high school football coach has been reprimanded for licking the bleeding wounds of student athletes.

The Oregon Teacher Standards and Practices Commission placed Scott Reed, 34, on two years probation and ordered the coach, who is also a science teacher, to attend a class on the risks of blood-borne pathogens.

Last year, Reed gave students at Central Linn High School near Eugene, Oregon, a pep talk about a coach who had licked and healed players' wounds so that they could rejoin the game. After the talk, he bent down and licked a cut on a track athlete's knee, the commission said.

The head of the commission, Vickie Chamberlain, said the board felt a public reprimand was necessary "because we were very concerned about his behaviour".

Complaints filed against Reed also cited other risky behaviour, such as licking blood from wounds on a football player's arm and a high school student's hand.

Parents said if Reed had had an open wound in his mouth, the licking could have spread an infection such as HIV or Hepatitis B and C.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: blood; demented; lick; sick; teacher; wound; wounds
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To: holymoly
Licking a wound seems instinctive to man and beast and for good reason. It is well known that saliva contains the antimicrobial substances thiocyanate and lysozyme. Lysozyme is a mucopolysaccharidase that dissolves the cell walls of gram negative bacteria.

Nigel Benjamin at the St. Bartholomew's and Royal London School of Medicine and Dentistry has demonstrated that saliva also contains significant levels of nitrite which can be converted to nitric oxide, a powerful antimicrobial agent. Benjamin enlisted the aid of 14 healthy subjects asking them to lick "all over" their hands and then he measured the synthesis of nitric oxide on their skin. Nitric oxide levels increased sharply suggesting that "nitric oxide derived from salivary nitrite applied to the skin contributes to the antimicrobial effects of wound licking." The enzymes necessary to convert salivary nitrite to nitric oxide may be in the saliva as well.

A quick google found this... lol

21 posted on 08/06/2005 2:12:10 PM PDT by Frapster (Don't mind me - I'm distracted by the pretty lights.)
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To: cake_crumb
When you cut yoursself while outside or whatever and the sucker is bleeding and stings like heck, it just sometimes happens.

You are unlikely to get/give a blood born disease from/to your self.

Sorry to point out the obvious.

22 posted on 08/06/2005 2:13:49 PM PDT by konaice
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To: holymoly
There is obviously some weird PSYCO-sexual aspect to this coach's behavior that is not being explored.
23 posted on 08/06/2005 2:14:19 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: holymoly

Whatta Homo! Or should that be: Whatta Hemo?


24 posted on 08/06/2005 2:19:00 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Progressivism: A polyp on the colon politic.)
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To: holymoly
I heard that a dog will clean a wound by licking it, that there were things in the saliva that would sterilize the wound and promote healing.

I know people are different than dogs, but this sure seems like a pretty neat deal for the dog. I wonder if humans at one time had a similar ability, or if other animals share this trait.

25 posted on 08/06/2005 2:19:31 PM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: Lockbar
"There is obviously some weird PSYCO-sexual aspect to this coach's behavior that is not being explored."

I don't know if this is the same story I read a while ago (more than a month and memory is foggy) but as I recall in that case, it was the result of a joking promise of sorts. I can't recall the specifics, but something like the coach said "give it your all and if you get hurt I'll lick your wounds".

Anyway, grossness factor aside, It sounded more like a bar bet gone bad than a perv getting his kicks.
26 posted on 08/06/2005 2:26:05 PM PDT by ndt
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To: cake_crumb
Of course it does. I have licked my own cuts lots of times and never had one become infected because of it either.
27 posted on 08/06/2005 2:26:36 PM PDT by Shawndell Green (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: Frapster; newzjunkey; ClaudiusI
Don't tell ClaudiusI or newzjunkey about this, since they are certain that their own saliva is deadly!

Licking a wound seems instinctive to man and beast and for good reason. It is well known that saliva contains the antimicrobial substances thiocyanate and lysozyme. Lysozyme is a mucopolysaccharidase that dissolves the cell walls of gram negative bacteria.
Nigel Benjamin at the St. Bartholomew's and Royal London School of Medicine and Dentistry has demonstrated that saliva also contains significant levels of nitrite which can be converted to nitric oxide, a powerful antimicrobial agent. Benjamin enlisted the aid of 14 healthy subjects asking them to lick "all over" their hands and then he measured the synthesis of nitric oxide on their skin. Nitric oxide levels increased sharply suggesting that "nitric oxide derived from salivary nitrite applied to the skin contributes to the antimicrobial effects of wound licking." The enzymes necessary to convert salivary nitrite to nitric oxide may be in the saliva as well.
28 posted on 08/06/2005 2:30:40 PM PDT by Shawndell Green (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: cake_crumb

I noticed dogs did this. Then I decided to do it on a scratch I got. I only licked 1/2 to see what would happen.

The half I licked healed in about 1/2 the time of the the unlicked portion.

I think this is ok to do. IMHO.


29 posted on 08/06/2005 2:31:32 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: holymoly

Is he some kind of queer??


30 posted on 08/06/2005 2:42:04 PM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: konaice
>>>" You are unlikely to get/give a blood born disease from/to your self"<<<

That is what I was thinking, probably more likely to catch something from licking your hand, especially if you work in a Hospital or in the Health care Services, or maybe not quite as bad if you were a Septic Tank Service Technician.

Donning my flameproof suit, OK GO!
31 posted on 08/06/2005 2:46:46 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Shawndell Green
Saltwater (as in the Ocean) is also good for the wound, now common sense would instruct you to do this in shallow water as to not attract those in Natures Food Chain that might find "O" Positive the equivalent of the dinner bell.

TT
32 posted on 08/06/2005 2:49:59 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: cake_crumb
"We lick our OWN wounds when cut. Why do you suppose we do that?"

Maybe down there in Atlanta you do!

33 posted on 08/06/2005 2:56:05 PM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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To: cake_crumb

Most of us understood you. Don't let the blowhard, pretend-to know-it-all types who are constantly spoiling for a keyboard fight bother you.


34 posted on 08/06/2005 2:56:11 PM PDT by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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To: cake_crumb
We lick our OWN wounds when cut. Why do you suppose we do that?

WE?!.....
I use peroxide followed by cool water. Then apply whatever sort of dressing the wound requires.

Perhaps this coach studied 1st aid at Neverland Ranch?
35 posted on 08/06/2005 4:16:22 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: Frapster
Nitric oxide levels increased sharply suggesting that "nitric oxide derived from salivary nitrite applied to the skin contributes to the antimicrobial effects of wound licking."

So... Monica wuz actually just helping Slick Willie cure a case of jock itch???
36 posted on 08/06/2005 4:20:11 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: cake_crumb

maybe he's gay?


37 posted on 08/06/2005 4:51:41 PM PDT by isom35
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To: cake_crumb
We lick our OWN wounds when cut. Why do you suppose we do that?

We do? Why doesn't anybody tell me these things!!!

38 posted on 08/06/2005 5:13:35 PM PDT by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I would like to know what we are talking about.)
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To: neverhome

ewwww... I didn't need that vision first thing in the AM. lol


39 posted on 08/08/2005 5:33:48 AM PDT by Frapster (Don't mind me - I'm distracted by the pretty lights.)
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To: nmh; cake_crumb

Actually cake is right. Spit has antiseptic substances. If adequate antiseptics aren´t available, use your spit on smaller wounds. However, it is unbelievable that this teacher licked the wounds of students. You can lick your own wounds (because you can´t infect yourself by using your own spit), maybe a Mom can do so with a small scratch of her little child, but a teacher? NEVER!


40 posted on 08/08/2005 5:39:24 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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