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Islamic group warns Blair about militants ban
breakingnews.iol.ie ^ | 08/05/05 | breakingnews.iol.ie

Posted on 08/05/2005 8:07:32 AM PDT by Pikamax

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To: 3AngelaD

All that Islamics know to do is to threaten and kill people, and frankly, too many of us are getting tired of it.

Over half a century has gone by and what Muslim nation has stepped forward to help the Palestinians build homes?
None that I know of so far. Islamics are too busy spewing hatred to accompolish anything good for themselves or anyone else.


61 posted on 08/05/2005 11:09:41 AM PDT by tessalu
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To: hardworking

'swhy I like small towns.


62 posted on 08/05/2005 12:13:37 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: Pikamax

Silly muslims!


63 posted on 08/05/2005 12:19:04 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Pikamax

I like this. We are a completely no violent group. Now do exactly as we say or else. You've been warned infidel.


64 posted on 08/05/2005 12:22:57 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Here I abandon peace and desecrate law. Farewell to treaties. Fortune it is you I follow)
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To: Nuc1
IMHO Islam is much less a religion and is much more a political movement.

Until all non-muslis get it right we're in a world of hurt.

Islam is not a religion.
Islam is not a 7th century group of savages.
Islam is not a culture.
Islam is not a system that controls the tiniest element of your personal life.
Islam is not a political system.
Islam is not a rapacious military system.

It is all of them. Simultaneously.

That's why treating them mindlessly as "simply" a religion is a fool's errand, paid for in blood.

65 posted on 08/05/2005 12:27:00 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Nachum
Anywhere they feel they have a large enough population to physically intimidate

If the state is seen as failing to protect the people, the people will if necessary take their protection into their own hands. Happens every time.

66 posted on 08/05/2005 12:30:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: Republic
Would someone PLEASE explain to me why a Muslim living in a democratic society and PRACTICING POLITICAL DISSENT would SO OBJECT to that freedom being expressed in his nation of origin?

GEE, has everyone forgotten their Marxism so soon?!

Dissent in the case of Marxists, and now with Muslims who learned it at the feet of Marxists, both as recent clients and pawns of the Soviet Union in the Cold War and from Marxist professors in Western universities, is only a means of setting up the dialectic, i.e. the conflict, with the bourgeois, whose part is now played by the Kufar, or non-Muslims. The idea is to use the dialectic to get progressive compromises until the Marxist, now Muslim, position is reached. Meeting them halfway is only a temporary position. When you get used to that, the dialectic is continued to 3/4, 7/8 etc.

It should also be clear that part of setting up the dialectic on an international scale is to ensure that influence operates in only one direction so that the pluralistic country which allows the dialectic is brought into the orbit of the base. Note that internally and externally, the acquiescence to the dialectic by the (bougeois/non-Muslims) ensures that counter-dialectic (reactionary) argument will be dealt with by the "center" who lives up to their temporary compromises, with only minimal effort required of the (proletariat/Muslims).

I'm sure you have seen this operate yourself in terms of PC. For example, how often are you "corrected" for a "homophobic" remark by someone who is not even gay vs. by someone who is? You see, the compromisers are the ones who enforce the dialectic compromises more than those who demanded it!
67 posted on 08/05/2005 12:57:33 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Yeah...a ONE WAY STREET paved by the moderates.


68 posted on 08/05/2005 1:00:02 PM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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To: Republic

Couldn't have said it better myself :-)


69 posted on 08/05/2005 1:06:53 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

A Friday BUMP for Clarity!


70 posted on 08/05/2005 2:15:10 PM PDT by Pagey (Whether Hillary Clintons' attacks on America are a success or a failure depends upon YOU TOO!)
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To: Nachum

yup , the muzzies are so very bold


71 posted on 08/05/2005 2:18:38 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: Pikamax

Turbanate the sheetheads..


72 posted on 08/05/2005 3:39:07 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: EdReform

Thanks for the ping. I will have to look for an update on this court appearance set for July 4. But meanwhile, why don't they just certify this maniac as insane, lock him up and throw away the key:


January 05, 2005

Long toenails and flip-flop fears keep Abu Hamza out of court
By Sean O’Neill



A DISPUTE over the length of his toenails kept Abu Hamza al-Masri, the radical Islamist cleric, from appearing at the Old Bailey yesterday.
The Egyptian-born preacher who has no arms and uses a hooked prosthetic limb, wanted to wear flip-flops rather than shoes for the short walk from his cell to the videolink suite at Belmarsh prison.



But the prison’s duty governor refused the footwear request on health and safety grounds and called two doctors to examine Abu Hamza’s feet.

They concluded that his toenails were normal but despite that, Abu Hamza, who faces 16 charges including soliciting to murder, refused to leave his cell.

He is to be examined again by a chiropodist before a court hearing in two weeks’ time.

Abu Hamza, 47, had been scheduled to enter pleas to the charges against him before Judge Peter Beaumont, the Recorder of London.

But the judge, lawyers and court officials were kept waiting while the minor medical drama unfolded out of sight at the southeast London jail.

A prison officer eventually informed the court that Abu Hamza would not leave his cell.

“He is refusing to come over here,” the officer said. “He is being checked by medical staff. He is saying he is unable to walk.”

Paul Hynes, for the defence, said: “There is a particular physical difficulty with him. He feels unable to walk. He has been perambulating round the prison barefoot. It is a long-standing problem.”

Mr Hynes said that the defence was not ready, in any case, to enter pleas.

Adina Ezekiel, for the prosecution, said: “The Crown do have some concerns. He is complaining his toenails are too long.”

Miss Ezekiel asked that Abu Hamza be produced in person for future court appearances.

The judge asked for a report on Abu Hamza’s condition and said that future proceedings might have to be held at Woolwich Crown Court, beside the prison. Abu Hamza has repeatedly complained about his treatment in the jail.

He maintains that he receives inadequate medical treatment for his disability, and suffers diabetes and a painful skin complaint. Last year the prison authorities offered him and other Muslim inmates pork chops as their halal meal.

A Prison Service spokesman said that Abu Hamza’s toenails were two or three millimetres longer than usual and were no impediment to walking. He added: “He has been referred to a chiropodist just to make sure.”

The judge remanded Abu Hamza in custody for a further 14 days and ordered that any trial in the case should take place on July 4.



73 posted on 08/05/2005 4:35:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Republic

They are conquerors...not of faith, but of a political system that dispises women, is intolerant of any other faith and rules by a total suppression of all freedoms.>>>>

In regards to the part of depising their women, does anyone here have any ideas how that got going in their culture. To me it is just so frightening. In my view, anyone who treats the mothers and the sisters, grandmas among them in this way is denying their own humanity and something is seriously wrong with their heads. As in INSANE. How could you treat your own mother, wife, sister this way if you didn't hate yourself too? Maybe this sounds like psycho-babble, but I'm way curious about these control freaks. There are some men in our culture who are like this (just watch the Lifetime movie channel :) but they aren't the norm.


74 posted on 08/06/2005 6:33:41 AM PDT by SaintDismas (Jest becuz you put yer boots in the oven, don't make it bread)
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To: Shaun_MD

It reminds me of the row over a BBC drama that involved muslim terrorists in its plotline a little while back.

Some muslim group in the UK objected that muslims were portrayed as violent, and threatened to blow up the BBC if the show was not taken of the air...


75 posted on 08/06/2005 10:35:51 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Pikamax

It will soon get to the point where Brits will do the dirty work themselves.

These fanatical animals should be exterminated down to the last.


76 posted on 08/06/2005 2:10:13 PM PDT by johnnyBbad
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