Posted on 08/05/2005 8:07:32 AM PDT by Pikamax
Islamic group warns Blair about militants ban 05/08/2005 - 13:03:59
British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s pledge to ban militant Islamic groups will be seen by Muslims as “stifling legitimate political dissent”, a member of Hizb ut-Tahrir said today.
Imran Waheed, a spokesman for Hizb ut-Tahrir Britain, said the group would fight any ban through the courts and insisted it was a “non-violent political party”.
He added: “There will be serious repercussions in terms of community relations if this ban goes ahead. We have a lot of support among the Muslim community in Britain and it will be seen by the Muslim community as stifling legitimate political dissent.
“Hizb ut-Tahrir is a non-violent political party. It has had a history of non-violence for the last 50 years and these measures are like what we have seen in Uzbekistan where President Karimov has been burning his political opponents alive. Our members are all for political expression, not for violence.”
Mr Waheed said the group had made its position on the London bombings clear - that it was “not justified to take innocent lives”.
“We have been very clear about that and we will fight any ban through the legal system. We will continue our work. Our work is totally non-violent.”
But he added: “Our views are very similar to those in the Muslim community. We want an end to Western interference in Muslim countries.”
Mr Waheed rejected shadow defence minister Gerald Howarth’s comments that Muslims opposed to the British way of life should leave the country even if they are UK citizens.
“This is nothing to do with not liking the country,” he said. “We were born in Britain and there is nothing precluding a Muslim from a being a decent citizen in this country. By doing this, he (Mr Blair) is setting an example to the tyrant rulers of the Muslim world, encouraging them to further suppress their populations.”
The Hizb ut-Tahrir website says the group’s aim is to “resume the Islamic way of life and to convey the Islamic da’wah (teachings) to the world”.
A statement posted following the G8 summit in Gleneagles, Scotland, last month said the “colonialists, especially America and Britain, harbour a hidden hatred against Islam and the Muslims".
It continued: “They forget their differences when it comes to Islam and the Muslims. The London explosions, which took place at the time of the G8 summit, revealed this crusader viewpoint and hatred of Islam and the Muslims to the extent that every Muslim in Britain, even British citizens, have come under suspicion where even some British organisations have begun calling openly for ‘waging a crusader war to expel Muslims from the streets of Europe’.
“You can see these states, especially the colonialist states and those which have ambitions over our countries, may disagree on everything but they are united against you and against your Deen (faith).”
The site has several question and answer-style pages arguing that America is trying to create an “evil empire which will control the whole world”.
Other statements read: “Western capitalism is a shameful and licentious civilisation for which there is no precedent known in history. Abnormal behaviour, mutilation and nudity can be found amongst human beings.”
The common link between Al Muhajiroun and Hizb ut-Tahir is Sheikh Omar bin Bakri bin Mohammed.
Bakri Mohammed has been investigated by police over his allegedly inflammatory language, but no charges have ever been brought.
After living in Syria and Lebanon, he was expelled from Saudi Arabia as an extremist and arrived in Britain in 1986.
He set up a branch of Hizb ut-Tahrir (Party of Liberation), which recruited from mosques and colleges.
He split from the group in 1996 and created Al-Muhajiroun (The Eyes and Ears of the Muslims), which praised the “Magnificent 19” hijackers after September 11.
Last October, Bakri Mohammed announced he was disbanding Al-Muhajiroun in the interests of unity in the Muslim world, and has since adopted a lower profile.
However, he is now head of one of the “successor organisations” referred to by Mr Blair today – the Saviour Sect (Ahl ul-Sunnah wal Jammah), which disrupted a Muslim Council of Britain press conference in April.
A group of chanting militants stormed the meeting, condemning the Council as “a mouthpiece” of Mr Blair’s and claiming that voting in the General Election would go against Islam.
There were chaotic scenes as a group of more than a dozen men, two of them masked, broke down the door of the library in the Central London Mosque in Regent’s Park.
The men who burst in said they represented the Saviour Sect, from the disbanded Al Muhajiroun group and headed by cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed.
They also targeted election candidates George Galloway and Oona King in violent scuffles during hustings in London’s East End in April.
Another Al-Muhajiroun offshoot is known as Al Ghurabaa, or “The Strangers”.
This week, Al Ghurabaa spokesman Abu Izzadeen refused to condemn the July 7 bombings and said he hoped they would make people “wake up and smell the coffee”.
All that Islamics know to do is to threaten and kill people, and frankly, too many of us are getting tired of it.
Over half a century has gone by and what Muslim nation has stepped forward to help the Palestinians build homes?
None that I know of so far. Islamics are too busy spewing hatred to accompolish anything good for themselves or anyone else.
'swhy I like small towns.
Silly muslims!
I like this. We are a completely no violent group. Now do exactly as we say or else. You've been warned infidel.
Until all non-muslis get it right we're in a world of hurt.
Islam is not a religion.
Islam is not a 7th century group of savages.
Islam is not a culture.
Islam is not a system that controls the tiniest element of your personal life.
Islam is not a political system.
Islam is not a rapacious military system.
It is all of them. Simultaneously.
That's why treating them mindlessly as "simply" a religion is a fool's errand, paid for in blood.
If the state is seen as failing to protect the people, the people will if necessary take their protection into their own hands. Happens every time.
Yeah...a ONE WAY STREET paved by the moderates.
Couldn't have said it better myself :-)
A Friday BUMP for Clarity!
yup , the muzzies are so very bold
Turbanate the sheetheads..
Thanks for the ping. I will have to look for an update on this court appearance set for July 4. But meanwhile, why don't they just certify this maniac as insane, lock him up and throw away the key:
January 05, 2005
Long toenails and flip-flop fears keep Abu Hamza out of court
By Sean O’Neill
A DISPUTE over the length of his toenails kept Abu Hamza al-Masri, the radical Islamist cleric, from appearing at the Old Bailey yesterday.
The Egyptian-born preacher who has no arms and uses a hooked prosthetic limb, wanted to wear flip-flops rather than shoes for the short walk from his cell to the videolink suite at Belmarsh prison.
But the prison’s duty governor refused the footwear request on health and safety grounds and called two doctors to examine Abu Hamza’s feet.
They concluded that his toenails were normal but despite that, Abu Hamza, who faces 16 charges including soliciting to murder, refused to leave his cell.
He is to be examined again by a chiropodist before a court hearing in two weeks’ time.
Abu Hamza, 47, had been scheduled to enter pleas to the charges against him before Judge Peter Beaumont, the Recorder of London.
But the judge, lawyers and court officials were kept waiting while the minor medical drama unfolded out of sight at the southeast London jail.
A prison officer eventually informed the court that Abu Hamza would not leave his cell.
“He is refusing to come over here,” the officer said. “He is being checked by medical staff. He is saying he is unable to walk.”
Paul Hynes, for the defence, said: “There is a particular physical difficulty with him. He feels unable to walk. He has been perambulating round the prison barefoot. It is a long-standing problem.”
Mr Hynes said that the defence was not ready, in any case, to enter pleas.
Adina Ezekiel, for the prosecution, said: “The Crown do have some concerns. He is complaining his toenails are too long.”
Miss Ezekiel asked that Abu Hamza be produced in person for future court appearances.
The judge asked for a report on Abu Hamza’s condition and said that future proceedings might have to be held at Woolwich Crown Court, beside the prison. Abu Hamza has repeatedly complained about his treatment in the jail.
He maintains that he receives inadequate medical treatment for his disability, and suffers diabetes and a painful skin complaint. Last year the prison authorities offered him and other Muslim inmates pork chops as their halal meal.
A Prison Service spokesman said that Abu Hamza’s toenails were two or three millimetres longer than usual and were no impediment to walking. He added: “He has been referred to a chiropodist just to make sure.”
The judge remanded Abu Hamza in custody for a further 14 days and ordered that any trial in the case should take place on July 4.
They are conquerors...not of faith, but of a political system that dispises women, is intolerant of any other faith and rules by a total suppression of all freedoms.>>>>
In regards to the part of depising their women, does anyone here have any ideas how that got going in their culture. To me it is just so frightening. In my view, anyone who treats the mothers and the sisters, grandmas among them in this way is denying their own humanity and something is seriously wrong with their heads. As in INSANE. How could you treat your own mother, wife, sister this way if you didn't hate yourself too? Maybe this sounds like psycho-babble, but I'm way curious about these control freaks. There are some men in our culture who are like this (just watch the Lifetime movie channel :) but they aren't the norm.
It reminds me of the row over a BBC drama that involved muslim terrorists in its plotline a little while back.
Some muslim group in the UK objected that muslims were portrayed as violent, and threatened to blow up the BBC if the show was not taken of the air...
It will soon get to the point where Brits will do the dirty work themselves.
These fanatical animals should be exterminated down to the last.
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