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Oldest known Bible to go online
BBC World News ^ | 7 August 2005 | anon

Posted on 08/04/2005 10:22:42 PM PDT by BlackVeil

A manuscript containing the oldest known Biblical New Testament in the world is set to enter the digital age and become accessible online.

A team of experts from the UK, Europe, Egypt and Russia is currently digitising the parchment known as the Codex Sinaiticus, believed originally to have been one of 50 copies of the scriptures commissioned by Roman Emperor Constantine after he converted to Christianity.

The Bible, which is currently in the British Library in London, dates from the 4th Century.

"It is a very distinctive manuscript. No other manuscript looks like this," Scot McKendrick, the head of the Medieval and Earlier Manuscripts Department in the British Library, told BBC World Service's Reporting Religion programme.

"On each very large page, about 14-16 inches (34-37cm) it has a Greek text written in four columns.

"That's the really distinct feature of it - layers of text - it's one of the fascinating aspects of it and it shows us how the Biblical text developed over a certain period, how it was interpreted in those crucial early years of Christianity."

Stolen

The digitising project is particularly significant because of the rarity and importance of the manuscript.

The original document is so precious that it has only been seen by four scholars in the last 20 years.

The Codex Sinaiticus contains the whole of the Christian Bible; specifically, it has the oldest complete copy of the New Testament, as well as the Greek Old Testament, known as the Septuagint, which includes books now regarded as apocrypha.

It is named after the place it was written, the monastery of Saint Catherine in Sinai, Egypt, set beneath the mountain where Moses is said to have received the Ten Commandments.

It remained there until the middle of the 19th Century when a visiting German scholar, Constantin von Tischendorf, took parts of it away to Germany and Russia. To this day, the monastery officially regards it as stolen.

In total the codex is now in four portions, the largest of which - 347 of the 400 pages - is that at the British Library. The rest are split between Leipzig University Library, the National Library of Russia in St Petersburg, and the monastery.

Free website

All four institutions are co-operating to digitise the entire text, as well as using hyperspectral imaging to photograph it, in order to find any hidden or erased text.

"To do it also in infra-red or ultra-violet photography, as in forensics, you'll find out any hidden aspects of it as well," explained the British Library's digitisation expert Lawrence Pordez.

The British Library bought the codex from Russia for £100,000 in 1933 He added that a further advantage of using photographs of the manuscript to make a facsimile of it was that there were "no chemicals involved".

"It's also faster to produce," he added.

For his part, Dr McKendrick said he estimated it would be about four years before the codex is fully available online.

This is to give time "to essentially photograph the manuscript, to conserve it, to transcribe anew the whole of the text, and to present that in a new form electronically".

The British Library will also develop a free website to present the manuscript.

The website will both "present the manuscript - just the facts as it were, the images and the transcription - but also interpret it for different audiences, from scholars right through to people who are just interested in this manuscript or in Christianity".


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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
The sentence is inaccurate, since, as you note, he did not convert until he was on his deathbed. But "deathbed conversions" were not that unusual in this period because of the belief that a last-minute profession of faith wiped away a preceding life of sin and one died with a clean soul (which made getting into Heaven a shoo-in). , There were also cases of suicide immediately following priestly confession during this early period for the same reason until the Church ruled suicide a mortal sin to stop the practice.

I suspect he was a hypocritical manipulator of the masses, but perhaps he simply didn't want to be dictated to by Church authorities during his worldly reign.

A review of his actions between the time he had his "vision" of the Cross (just before a critical battle) and his death would, I believe, show his favoritism was genuine. Under his reign, Christianity went from an openly persecuted religion to an officially tolerated religion (with prisoners released and church and individual property restored) to the official religion of the Roman Empire (all other religions banned). Making it the official state religion would have been hugely unpopular among the non-Christian population. The decision instantly made the Church an extremely important institution in Roman life. (Remember, this was in the days before movies and television. ;o) ) But it also made the Church directly dependent on and answerable to the state. Far from being dictated to by the Church, I suspect the Church may have not always welcomed his smothering embrace. As a parishioner, the Emperor was, as in all other aspects of Roman life, "first among equals." (Although by this late date, all references to the Roman Republic were simply illusary anyway.)

However this entanglement of church and state is something that is: 1) absolutely not unique to Christianity and 2) persists in the West until the Enlightenment of the 16th - 18th century period. So, even if he started it, he certainly was not responsible for its continuation.
21 posted on 08/05/2005 3:08:33 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: BykrBayb; iowamark

The King James, when first printed, contained the Apocrapha, also, but was later dropped because the Jews Themselves never considered the books to be genuinely the Bible, but history.

They were taken out of the King James in the 1700's for that reason, they are onl history accounts, not inspired books by the Holy Spirit.


22 posted on 08/05/2005 3:11:54 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: little jeremiah
I am interested in parts that have been left out - it mentions a part that is now apocrypha (doesn't that mean stories that aren't now considered bona fide?).

The Old Testament books that were in dispute, in the Cathlic lexicon the Deuterocanonicals (sp?), are the ones that did not originate in the Palestinian tradition of Judaism. They came from the Helenistic and North African traditions. St. Jerome - who stood alone at the councils of Hippo and Carthage on this - argued that the Palestinian Jews don't have them in their cannon, so the Church shouldn't either. Well, the Palestinian Jews didn't close their cannon until 100 AD. Why should the Christian world adhere to that? Jerome was living in Palestine at the time and that really factored into his thinking. He was very much persuaded by them. In contrast, St. Augustine, who had a much more level head and presided at both councils, pretty much led the group that used the full group of books (which was basically everybody else). As there was enough of a body of writings by the early church doctors (as we now know them) that demonstrated that the books were used, St. Jerome's arguments were pretty well deconstructed and he dropped his objections. It didn't hurt that St. Augustine had the pope on his side.

The Deurocanonicals in the New Testament are the ones that are almost never mentioned - Hebrews, Revelation, James, 2 Peter and 2&3 John. They were in dispute as well, but that never seems to come up.

Be careful with reading Catholic Bibles. Some of the translations are not quite kosher, if you will. I prefer the Douay-Rheims, which was translated a number of centuries ago. There are some beautiful things in Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) and Baruch. I actually like Wisdom as well.

23 posted on 08/05/2005 4:55:42 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: BlackVeil

It's all Greek to me.


24 posted on 08/05/2005 4:57:40 AM PDT by N. Theknow (If Social Security is so good - why aren't members of Congress in it?)
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To: RaceBannon

How do you explain the removal of the Book of Thomas and the Book of Mary?


25 posted on 08/05/2005 4:58:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: NYer
This must be the Bible that explains that Church traditions mean nothing and that everyone should just read and interpret the Bible for themselves. It also explains that the Pope is evil and that we should detest Mary. There is also a preface to the apocrypha that explains that they didn't really intend to include it and to just pretend it isn't there.

Yeah, I'm being sarcastic, I just couldn't resist.

26 posted on 08/05/2005 5:56:34 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

Gibbon notes Constantine's late conversion as being particularly convenient because he had one or two of his sons executed not long before he converted. The baptism washed away those sins and rendered him a new man, able to enter heaven without those sins inconveniently dragging him back to the other place.


27 posted on 08/05/2005 6:30:19 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: RaceBannon

"They were taken out of the King James in the 1700's for that reason, they are onl history accounts, not inspired books by the Holy Spirit."

How do you tell if a book is inspired by the "Holy Spirit"?


28 posted on 08/05/2005 6:37:15 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: iowamark

I am also of the understanding that some Eastern Christian Bibles also contain a 3rd and 4th Maccabees. I don't know this for sure.


29 posted on 08/05/2005 7:30:58 AM PDT by Cheverus
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To: Desdemona

I actually have a Douay-Rheims (yes I am Catholic) myself, purchased from the Fraternity of St. Peter. Beautiful book with Morroccan Leather cover....every Bible, regardless of version, should be an piece of art.


30 posted on 08/05/2005 7:34:19 AM PDT by Cheverus
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To: Dark Skies
But in the long run it doesn't matter...the Holy Spirit comes through loud and clear.

EXACTLY. It's why the magical feel is there in scripture no matter the translation or version. It's far far more than text. It is the written manifestation of almighty God. In the beginning was the WORD.

MM

31 posted on 08/05/2005 7:36:31 AM PDT by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: RaceBannon
the Jews Themselves never considered the books to be genuinely the Bible

Your knowledge of history is deficient. Some Jews, largely those who rejected Christ. The Palestinian(Hebrew) Canon wasn't established at Jamnia until ~100 AD but the Christian Church was already using the Alexandrian translation of the Hebrew Bible, which dates from ~250-125 BC. The discovery of copies, written in Hebrew, of some of the Deuterocanonicals at Qumran renders moot many of the arguments for rejecting the Septuagint. Over 300 quotes in the New Testament are from the Septuagint, not the Palestinian Canon.

32 posted on 08/05/2005 10:20:07 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: libstripper

Edward Gibbon "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" was strongly anti-Christian so we need to consider that bias in his comments.

He would fit right in in academia today!


33 posted on 08/05/2005 10:40:54 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: MississippiMan; Dark Skies; RaceBannon
It's why the magical feel is there in scripture no matter the translation or version

The Mormons get the same "feeling in the belly" reading the Book of Mormon.

How do you know whats's inspired?

Where did the table of contents of the Bible come from?

34 posted on 08/05/2005 3:44:39 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: FatherofFive
The Mormons get the same "feeling in the belly" reading the Book of Mormon.

How do you know whats's inspired?

You make a very interesting distinction. Off the top of my head, I would say that it isn't the belly that senses the Holy Spirit. It is the spirit of the sensing person.

I have strong gut reactions (that's a guy's way of defining intuition, I think), but it isn't my gut that hears the Holy Spirit. It is my conscience, my soul, my heart...my spirit.

I don't pretend to know the answer, but discernment is called for. I think a spiritual person has to sift and resift and resift all info until the HS emerges.

Just my humble opinion.

35 posted on 08/05/2005 3:59:59 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: BlackVeil

>which includes books now regarded as apocrypha<

...by protestants, because Martin Luther found them inconvenient.


36 posted on 08/05/2005 4:03:22 PM PDT by G Larry (Honor the fallen and the heroes of 9/11 at the Memorial Site.)
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To: G Larry
.by protestants, because Martin Luther found them inconvenient.

I'm protestant and I have read them all and read the Book of Enoch at least once a month.

37 posted on 08/05/2005 4:05:13 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: FatherofFive

It came from Faithful Jews, like PAul and Jude and James


38 posted on 08/05/2005 7:18:34 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: G Larry
...by protestants, because Martin Luther found them inconvenient

He even moved the book of James to the back of the Bible, and made some commentary about it's application in the preface ...

39 posted on 08/05/2005 7:23:03 PM PDT by 11th_VA (BORDER SECURITY NOT SOCIAL SECURITY - I'm voting 3rd Party)
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To: RaceBannon
It came from Faithful Jews, like PAul and Jude and James

Any details on how and when this happened? Any hisrorical evidence?

40 posted on 08/06/2005 10:31:53 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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