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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: RGVTx

I accused someone the other day of changing "it's" (I don't know if it's a guy or a girl) mind depending on how the wind blows. But I think we all do to some degree. Maybe it's just we hope she'll show up - and can be fixed - but if not just please let her parent's be able to grieve, not just stay in this pattern.


2,181 posted on 08/06/2005 7:48:28 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: justche

Mark Furman points out that OJ only had 6 attorneys.
Who is paying for Joran's 9 attorneys?

Furman says defense will hire other attorneys and experts for their team to keep them from being used against the defendant. Interesting, but still have to wonder who is footing this bill.


2,182 posted on 08/06/2005 7:51:32 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx

Well the one with the legal connections, and palms greased along the way are paying now. Wonder how many attorney's there are on the island?


2,183 posted on 08/06/2005 7:57:18 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Hey! Thanks brother. :)
I can use the blessing!


2,184 posted on 08/06/2005 8:34:29 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: justche
Maybe it's just we hope she'll show up - and can be fixed - but if not just please let her parent's be able to grieve, not just stay in this pattern.

It must be like the Groundhog's Day from hell for them.
I can't believe the landfill digging had to stop. Wonder how much higher the sludge will be by Monday.

2,185 posted on 08/06/2005 8:36:26 PM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady

Ugh even the thought of that movie makes me cringe, but you're right, probably very much like that for them. Did they stop because their permit ran out? Doesn't it seem like if they wanted to be helpful at all, they would put new garbage on another part that's already been searched?


2,186 posted on 08/06/2005 8:46:03 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: justche

Not only did the permit expire, the guy who could've renewed it vamoosed.

I hope there's something in place to prevent the re-trashing of that spot.


2,187 posted on 08/06/2005 8:51:54 PM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady

How Beth stays as gracious as she does with all this monkey business is beyond me....


2,188 posted on 08/06/2005 9:02:10 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: justche
There are approx. 90 attorneys on the island. Learned this from an interview Greta did, about 6 weeks ago, with the good looking dark complected gal--something Schippers?? She has a hyphenated name.

Anyway sounds as though a good number are either tied up on this case, working on it or doing commentary.

2,189 posted on 08/06/2005 9:06:29 PM PDT by Tarheel (Tarheel born, Tarheel bred, When I die I am Tarheel dead.)
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To: Tarheel

Thanks, I missed that somewhere along the way. I have another question--is the prison that's on the island only for arubans? or is it a multi-island prison?


2,190 posted on 08/06/2005 9:12:10 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Tarheel

It may be that PvdS tied up most of these lawyers with retainers to keep the Holloways and Twittys from using them.


2,191 posted on 08/06/2005 9:15:01 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: justche

And without being able to speak with Natalee.
We can't go 3 or 4 days without at least talking to our kids on the phone.


2,192 posted on 08/06/2005 9:16:29 PM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady
Oh, it's a daily ocurrence around here. I try to stop in with my daughter almost every day too. Before I went away to college, my mom had heard on Dobson that kids should be able to call home without restriction (this was before e-mail.) The boys called home once a week. I called about every other day.

With how Beth keeps journals, I wonder if she's not writing letters to Natalee too just in case she can read them some day, she'll know everything Beth was doing.

2,193 posted on 08/06/2005 9:21:35 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: stlnative

Isn't this pathetic? To have people looking for your child in a landfill!

Beth Twitty is a super woman. Her courage and faith, her poise and patience, and her incredible self-control, in a search for her child who has "disappeared"...well, she could be a model for many of us. The woman has A1 class!


2,194 posted on 08/06/2005 9:25:03 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: justche
With how Beth keeps journals, I wonder if she's not writing letters to Natalee too just in case she can read them some day, she'll know everything Beth was doing.

That just makes me want to cry.
I'd never ever accept her death without proof.

2,195 posted on 08/06/2005 9:28:01 PM PDT by b9
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To: GarySpFc

So wouldn't that be obstruction on his part? (If it were the US and we were playing by our rules?)


2,196 posted on 08/06/2005 9:32:32 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: RGVTx

Nine attorneys. Is that a fact?

Maybe most of them are working pro bono as in faithful Arubans defending one of their own. Just more speculation.

OR Papa VDS has loads of dough,

OR Papa VDS has loads of contacts with loads of dough.

And one final "OR": Some higher-ups in Aruba want this case to GO AWAY! Whatever it takes.

Again, just playing amateur detective.


2,197 posted on 08/06/2005 9:48:29 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: TexKat

Hope you're ok and come back to us soon.

Miss your pings.

Muchos grecias.


2,198 posted on 08/06/2005 9:49:13 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: justche

No, anyone can retain lawyers.


2,199 posted on 08/06/2005 9:53:54 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

Right, I just never thought about retaining a 'bunch' of them as a defense mechanism so the other side couldn't have legal representation.


2,200 posted on 08/06/2005 9:56:14 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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