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Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat
I had no street smarts. None. Joran could have fooled me in a minute at 18. At 18 I tought the world was so nice. And when my parents warned me, I thought they were old fogeys.
They did admit she drank but I think they said in ARuba. Wasn't clear about at home.
I think it is driving everyone crazy that there aren't more details about that night, what happened, how Joran acted. It is maddening.
See Froufrou's post #1585.
"but then she died from whatever they gave her to subdue her."
texasbluebell,
why do you think she's dead?
Only until a couple nights ago I thought she had to be dead. I now believe she is still alive. It's strange, but a few nights ago I got the same kind of experience I got during the disapperance of Elizabeth Smart, some kind of deja vu experience, if you will. It wasn't until a couple of weeks before ES was found, and before we had known of the perps photos, that I had a strong feeling that ES was alive and Richard Ricci was NOT the one responsible for her disapperance.
Perhaps this is from reading the threads or perhaps it's not. But tonight, more than ever I feel very strongly that she is alive. I'm not gonna try to guess where she is or in what conditions she is being held against her will. Those ugly and nefarious descriptions are not important here. What's important is that she be found alive, as I believe she will and soon. I say this as a couple of tears are streaming down the sides of my nose and cheeks.
Oh,
I think he is a cute guy and his best asset is that he is tall,,teens love tall guys. We used to fight over them. And he is athletic and well built.
but so handsome you can't think? I don't think so.
Please post the pic you're referring to as I'm trying to play catch-up on these threads & I'm really curious after reading your remarks.
It is posted at a link on this thread in the last 100 posts. And if I were on my way to bed to convince my husband I am sane, then I would hunt it down. But it isn't particularly gruesome. Just Joran dancing with a girl and chewing on her, well, her genital region at the same time. It is sort of lurid. We think it is a girl but some think it is a boy.
Now I have to go to bed!
I have both a son & a daughter and couldn't agree more! My 18 y/o son won't date most of the girls in his class. He says the're sluts & very unattractive! Can we say-Teach your daughers r-e-s-p-e-c-t Moms! (He's currently dating a lovely young lady, a year younger than he is)
Love your honesty, CG. Really.
Nite girl! :o)
I'm trying to have your faith. At least I'm praying Natalee will be found alive. But if she isn't alive anymore, I'm praying for her recovery and that justice will be done to the people responsible.
Good Nite CG!
Post 1832 has the gross pic.
Now I am really really going to bed!!!!!!
Well, after all, it is his birthday.
/sarcasmn
Same here; I think I could have easily been fooled in Aruba - or anyplace else for that matter...g'night, cajungirl.
bttt
Apparently you and I did (like tall guys).
Just to stray from the thread topic for a sec, when I see a short, petite gal around 5 ft. or 5 ft. 2" with a guy who stands a foot or more above her, I think, "That's not fair"! I'm picturing all the 5'9" and over girls. The tall guys should be reserved for them!
It's a silly thought but so what.
"Perhaps this is from reading the threads or perhaps it's not. But tonight, more than ever I feel very strongly that she is alive."
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You know, I'm just wavering on each side of the fence right now. It started for me just tonight, when I came upon something I had saved in my mailbox, that post I made above about the slave trade.
It fits perfectly, what we know about what happened, and what we can surmise happened that night, with the description of the way the "spotters" target a girl, ply her with drugs to subdue her, then whisk her off the island.
I could go either way. A case can be made for each side, as far as I'm concerned.
I really was thinking she was alive earlier tonight, but then I thought back to Dave H on tv earlier this evening, when he said again that they were told she was dead after 2 weeks into the case, and it reminded me again that it's so unlikely she's still in this world.
But it's funny that you're thinking the same thing tonight, as I was earlier, that she's still out there. It was just the stongest feeling that came over me. I could really believe it.
And why did the family just today increase the reward for information for her whereabouts, up to $250,000, which I saw somewhere?
Well, Dave H may believe she's gone, but I don't think Beth does actually.
I hope this turns out like Eliz Smart. Oh how I hope.
My goodness, he agrees with anyone who will talk to him....he should be silent before long.</p>
I can't imagine my daughter OR son acting like that either. And IF either of them ever had done something like that and I and their father had found out, they would be in the woodshed. We did not spare the rod when raising our children. I think it's obvious what today's "time outs" are doing to the younger generation. I'm prepared to guess that Joran has probably never even had a time out. He is one disgusting young person (not man)!!
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