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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12
Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

Posted on 08/02/2005 7:55:42 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; bethandjug; carloscharlies; daviejoneslocker; deepak; disappear; drugcartel; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; getalife; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessedkooks; yawn
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To: stlnative

I had no street smarts. None. Joran could have fooled me in a minute at 18. At 18 I tought the world was so nice. And when my parents warned me, I thought they were old fogeys.


1,961 posted on 08/05/2005 8:35:26 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: justche

They did admit she drank but I think they said in ARuba. Wasn't clear about at home.

I think it is driving everyone crazy that there aren't more details about that night, what happened, how Joran acted. It is maddening.


1,962 posted on 08/05/2005 8:37:03 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

See Froufrou's post #1585.


1,963 posted on 08/05/2005 8:38:04 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: texasbluebell

"but then she died from whatever they gave her to subdue her."

texasbluebell,

why do you think she's dead?

Only until a couple nights ago I thought she had to be dead. I now believe she is still alive. It's strange, but a few nights ago I got the same kind of experience I got during the disapperance of Elizabeth Smart, some kind of deja vu experience, if you will. It wasn't until a couple of weeks before ES was found, and before we had known of the perps photos, that I had a strong feeling that ES was alive and Richard Ricci was NOT the one responsible for her disapperance.

Perhaps this is from reading the threads or perhaps it's not. But tonight, more than ever I feel very strongly that she is alive. I'm not gonna try to guess where she is or in what conditions she is being held against her will. Those ugly and nefarious descriptions are not important here. What's important is that she be found alive, as I believe she will and soon. I say this as a couple of tears are streaming down the sides of my nose and cheeks.


1,964 posted on 08/05/2005 8:39:46 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: IIntense

Oh,

I think he is a cute guy and his best asset is that he is tall,,teens love tall guys. We used to fight over them. And he is athletic and well built.

but so handsome you can't think? I don't think so.


1,965 posted on 08/05/2005 8:40:10 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl
I just realized I am more shocked by the girl in the pic than by Joran. I wonder if this means something politically incorrect.

I mean if this were my son I would have his father take him to the woodshed. But if that were my daughter after my heart quit breaking I would pull out her hair by the roots. I cannot imagine a daughter acting like that.

Please post the pic you're referring to as I'm trying to play catch-up on these threads & I'm really curious after reading your remarks.

1,966 posted on 08/05/2005 8:40:16 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: demkicker

It is posted at a link on this thread in the last 100 posts. And if I were on my way to bed to convince my husband I am sane, then I would hunt it down. But it isn't particularly gruesome. Just Joran dancing with a girl and chewing on her, well, her genital region at the same time. It is sort of lurid. We think it is a girl but some think it is a boy.

Now I have to go to bed!


1,967 posted on 08/05/2005 8:43:09 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

I have both a son & a daughter and couldn't agree more! My 18 y/o son won't date most of the girls in his class. He says the're sluts & very unattractive! Can we say-Teach your daughers r-e-s-p-e-c-t Moms! (He's currently dating a lovely young lady, a year younger than he is)


1,968 posted on 08/05/2005 8:44:03 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: cajungirl

Love your honesty, CG. Really.


1,969 posted on 08/05/2005 8:44:39 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: cajungirl

Nite girl! :o)


1,970 posted on 08/05/2005 8:44:50 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: TAquinas

I'm trying to have your faith. At least I'm praying Natalee will be found alive. But if she isn't alive anymore, I'm praying for her recovery and that justice will be done to the people responsible.


1,971 posted on 08/05/2005 8:45:48 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: cajungirl

Good Nite CG!


1,972 posted on 08/05/2005 8:46:10 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: demkicker

Post 1832 has the gross pic.

Now I am really really going to bed!!!!!!


1,973 posted on 08/05/2005 8:47:40 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
The weekend off!!! They've GOT to be kidding! Typical of these LE Bozo's

Well, after all, it is his birthday.

/sarcasmn

1,974 posted on 08/05/2005 8:58:38 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
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To: cajungirl

Same here; I think I could have easily been fooled in Aruba - or anyplace else for that matter...g'night, cajungirl.


1,975 posted on 08/05/2005 8:59:14 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: hummingbird

bttt


1,976 posted on 08/05/2005 9:03:03 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: cajungirl

Apparently you and I did (like tall guys).

Just to stray from the thread topic for a sec, when I see a short, petite gal around 5 ft. or 5 ft. 2" with a guy who stands a foot or more above her, I think, "That's not fair"! I'm picturing all the 5'9" and over girls. The tall guys should be reserved for them!

It's a silly thought but so what.


1,977 posted on 08/05/2005 9:16:52 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: TAquinas

"Perhaps this is from reading the threads or perhaps it's not. But tonight, more than ever I feel very strongly that she is alive."

~~~~~~~~~~~~

You know, I'm just wavering on each side of the fence right now. It started for me just tonight, when I came upon something I had saved in my mailbox, that post I made above about the slave trade.

It fits perfectly, what we know about what happened, and what we can surmise happened that night, with the description of the way the "spotters" target a girl, ply her with drugs to subdue her, then whisk her off the island.

I could go either way. A case can be made for each side, as far as I'm concerned.

I really was thinking she was alive earlier tonight, but then I thought back to Dave H on tv earlier this evening, when he said again that they were told she was dead after 2 weeks into the case, and it reminded me again that it's so unlikely she's still in this world.

But it's funny that you're thinking the same thing tonight, as I was earlier, that she's still out there. It was just the stongest feeling that came over me. I could really believe it.

And why did the family just today increase the reward for information for her whereabouts, up to $250,000, which I saw somewhere?

Well, Dave H may believe she's gone, but I don't think Beth does actually.

I hope this turns out like Eliz Smart. Oh how I hope.


1,978 posted on 08/05/2005 9:26:50 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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My goodness, he agrees with anyone who will talk to him....he should be silent before long.</p>


1,979 posted on 08/05/2005 9:38:19 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: cajungirl

I can't imagine my daughter OR son acting like that either. And IF either of them ever had done something like that and I and their father had found out, they would be in the woodshed. We did not spare the rod when raising our children. I think it's obvious what today's "time outs" are doing to the younger generation. I'm prepared to guess that Joran has probably never even had a time out. He is one disgusting young person (not man)!!


1,980 posted on 08/05/2005 10:06:53 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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