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Let's Have No More Monkey Trials - To teach faith as science is to undermine both
Time Magazine ^ | Monday, Aug. 01, 2005 | CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

Posted on 08/01/2005 10:58:13 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

The half-century campaign to eradicate any vestige of religion from public life has run its course. The backlash from a nation fed up with the A.C.L.U. kicking crèches out of municipal Christmas displays has created a new balance. State-supported universities may subsidize the activities of student religious groups. Monuments inscribed with the Ten Commandments are permitted on government grounds. The Federal Government is engaged in a major antipoverty initiative that gives money to churches. Religion is back out of the closet.

But nothing could do more to undermine this most salutary restoration than the new and gratuitous attempts to invade science, and most particularly evolution, with religion. Have we learned nothing? In Kansas, conservative school-board members are attempting to rewrite statewide standards for teaching evolution to make sure that creationism's modern stepchild, intelligent design, infiltrates the curriculum. Similar anti-Darwinian mandates are already in place in Ohio and are being fought over in 20 states. And then, as if to second the evangelical push for this tarted-up version of creationism, out of the blue appears a declaration from Christoph Cardinal Schönborn of Vienna, a man very close to the Pope, asserting that the supposed acceptance of evolution by John Paul II is mistaken. In fact, he says, the Roman Catholic Church rejects "neo-Darwinism" with the declaration that an "unguided evolutionary process--one that falls outside the bounds of divine providence--simply cannot exist."

Cannot? On what scientific evidence? Evolution is one of the most powerful and elegant theories in all of human science and the bedrock of all modern biology. Schönborn's proclamation that it cannot exist unguided--that it is driven by an intelligent designer pushing and pulling and planning and shaping the process along the way--is a perfectly legitimate statement of faith. If he and the Evangelicals just stopped there and asked that intelligent design be included in a religion curriculum, I would support them. The scandal is to teach this as science--to pretend, as does Schönborn, that his statement of faith is a defense of science. "The Catholic Church," he says, "will again defend human reason" against "scientific theories that try to explain away the appearance of design as the result of 'chance and necessity,'" which "are not scientific at all." Well, if you believe that science is reason and that reason begins with recognizing the existence of an immanent providence, then this is science. But, of course, it is not. This is faith disguised as science. Science begins not with first principles but with observation and experimentation.

In this slippery slide from "reason" to science, Schönborn is a direct descendant of the early 17th century Dutch clergyman and astronomer David Fabricius, who could not accept Johannes Kepler's discovery of elliptical planetary orbits. Why? Because the circle is so pure and perfect that reason must reject anything less. "With your ellipse," Fabricius wrote Kepler, "you abolish the circularity and uniformity of the motions, which appears to me increasingly absurd the more profoundly I think about it." No matter that, using Tycho Brahe's most exhaustive astronomical observations in history, Kepler had empirically demonstrated that the planets orbit elliptically.

This conflict between faith and science had mercifully abated over the past four centuries as each grew to permit the other its own independent sphere. What we are witnessing now is a frontier violation by the forces of religion. This new attack claims that because there are gaps in evolution, they therefore must be filled by a divine intelligent designer.

How many times do we have to rerun the Scopes "monkey trial"? There are gaps in science everywhere. Are we to fill them all with divinity? There were gaps in Newton's universe. They were ultimately filled by Einstein's revisions. There are gaps in Einstein's universe, great chasms between it and quantum theory. Perhaps they are filled by God. Perhaps not. But it is certainly not science to merely declare it so.

To teach faith as science is to undermine the very idea of science, which is the acquisition of new knowledge through hypothesis, experimentation and evidence. To teach it as science is to encourage the supercilious caricature of America as a nation in the thrall of religious authority. To teach it as science is to discredit the welcome recent advances in permitting the public expression of religion. Faith can and should be proclaimed from every mountaintop and city square. But it has no place in science class. To impose it on the teaching of evolution is not just to invite ridicule but to earn it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: acanthostega; charleskrauthammer; creation; crevolist; faith; ichthyostega; krauthammer; science; scienceeducation; scopes; smallpenismen
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To: balrog666
"You mean like syphilis, gonorrhea, and AIDS?"

What? You didn't know that gonorrhea was part of the Sodomy and Gomorrhorah story?
441 posted on 08/01/2005 6:35:08 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: 1dadof3; narby
"...there are MANY conservative, educated, SCIENTISTS who believe in the creation concept. ..

Like this guy:

Dr.Francis S. Collins, physician, geneticist, and Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute at NIH (National Institutes of Health)

B.S. in chemistry at the University of Virginia

Ph.D. in physical chemistry at Yale University

Graduated from medical school at the University of North Carolina and completed his residency in internal medicine at Chapel Hill.

Later, he returned to Yale for a fellowship in human genetics and then joined the faculty at the University of Michigan in 1984.

His genetic research team identified the genes for cystic fibrosis, neurofibromatosis, and collaborated with others to identify the gene for Huntington's disease. In 1993, Collins became the second director of the National Center for Human Genome Research, following in the footsteps of James Watson.

In that role, Collins has overseen the successful completion of the Human Genome Project. He has been a member of ASA for over twenty years. ...."

More here

442 posted on 08/01/2005 6:36:19 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral law overarching rulers and ruled alike)
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To: Ichneumon

How long did it take you to put that post together ?


443 posted on 08/01/2005 6:37:32 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Thanks CAFTA - I'm voting 3rd Party)
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To: WildTurkey; Fester Chugabrew
"Does God use a ball-point or fountain pen?"

You'll find the answer to your question HERE and HERE

444 posted on 08/01/2005 6:38:45 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral law overarching rulers and ruled alike)
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To: Dimensio
There are absolutely no theories in science that are provable. There never have been any theories in science that were proven.

Well, then I guess all that remains is to check and see how reasonable each and all of them are. Shall we start with the notion that man is the result a random combination of material and physical processes unguided by any intelligent being? Or is that too much for science to tackle?

445 posted on 08/01/2005 6:39:04 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: balrog666

Hey no fair. I called one a creatin the other night and got in trouble (don't you think the "a" softens the blow, Hhhmmmmm, don't you?)


446 posted on 08/01/2005 6:39:20 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: WildTurkey

In my case it was a felt-tip.


447 posted on 08/01/2005 6:39:59 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: Junior; 1dadof3
"..It appears you've lost all semblance of rationality. .."

Rationality for Dummies

448 posted on 08/01/2005 6:43:34 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral law overarching rulers and ruled alike)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I was simply pointing out your over generalization. You claimed that some evos have an anti-truth bias. Yet those same evos do not necessarily accept the creationist version of truth, but regard truth as something that comes from the physical world.

"I have a standard. I have a text by which I judge all other information that comes into my hearing. What do you have? What do you use? What guides you? Anything? Nothing? Something in between?"

I have no worries that if I am not guided by some ethos contained in the Bible I will suddenly become a serial or mass murderer. I have genetically programmed multiple choice responses tempered by the society that I live in and my ability to predict the consequences of my choices.

451 posted on 08/01/2005 6:45:55 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew; PatrickHenry

Definitely another part of the Uncle Fester Chuganotherbrew Tag Team.


452 posted on 08/01/2005 6:46:39 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: 1dadof3

You kept demanding Proof as if anyone on this thread claimed the theory of evolution has proof. Noone did.


453 posted on 08/01/2005 6:46:40 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: 1dadof3
That has been my whole point.

What, that evolution is debunked? You've not demonstrated as much. That evolution is unproven? That's a meaningless statement. Everything in science is "unproven".

I merely asked for proof, if there is none, the evolution theory is exactly that a theory.

What more do you expect it could be?

I merely ask those attacking me personally for the proof that lead them to so believe in this THEORY.

Theories are supported by evidence, not proof. No explanation in science is "proven". Why do you act like evolution is somehow to be singled out in this regard, when the same is true for gravity, electromagnetism and atomics?
454 posted on 08/01/2005 6:46:48 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: 1dadof3
"A similar sentiment is offered by Karl Marx"

What sentiment is that?

455 posted on 08/01/2005 6:48:33 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral law overarching rulers and ruled alike)
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To: bobdsmith

Damn it! Noone is back. There's an awful lot of people who want to know just who this Noone is.


456 posted on 08/01/2005 6:50:42 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: 1dadof3; longshadow; PatrickHenry

Uh Oh! Almost Nazi Time Placemarker.


457 posted on 08/01/2005 6:51:41 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws

He's the lead singer for Herman's Hermits.


458 posted on 08/01/2005 6:51:49 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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