Posted on 08/01/2005 8:25:50 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
I am a Christian conservative. And as such the political problem we seem to always face is being schmoozed by Lucy to play football with her and then after they are elected they move the football.
I think it is time that we break from the republican party and form our own party that will back and fund our own candidates and would force the democrats and republicans to deal with us. We can extract our political objectives from them. Christians in this nation give hundreds of millions of dollars in political donations to candidates that promise us support and then cant seem to deliver because " of some of their collegues". But what they don't tell us is that they blame their other republicans for failure of laws being passed, they have sought out political shelter from those same people so that they will not be voted out. We shake our heads on how the democrats and the Judas Goats like Jesse Jackson lead the Black Community down the path of their own destruction by promising them extra wellfare bennifits. While we completely ignore that our own republican leaders do the same thing but with legislation on pro-life issues etc. It seems we are on the same political plantation living on the hope and promise of one day getting what we want from our plantation manager, while they have no intention of giving us our freedom.
We have worked for 20+ years to get in the political power position. Now we have majorities in all branches but their is still abortion in this country... why is that? The Bosses seduce us showing us the shiny dime rather than the sweat covered political dollar.
We no longer need them. We have the internet, we dont need intermediaries to do our political will, we can effectively organize our own candidates that will not be seduced by the mystical glow of power in DC.
We don't have to become the majority party we just have to pull our votes and funds and have a clear and vivid agenda that our candidates follow. We will know our party by their humility and focus. Now by how they jump in front of the camera. This can be done through political discipline. If we stole a model from the world it can work. The record industry promotes musical artist that they have extracted the best contractual obligations from that artist. So the money they put into their records and concerts are producing profits that bennefit them. When the artist wants to do what they want the producers just pull all support money and the artist fails because there is no promotion. We can do the same with our own candidates by saying you will not serve more than 1 term and it is the entire team that is what is important not your political career. You will have a great jumping off point for a career after serving, but you will be a team player for only one political season. That way the supporters and managers of the team get the win as a hole and not the individual players.
The thing that the democrats use against with the republicans is the ......" you are in bed with the Christian coalition" SO then the candidates then have to do something to prove they are not. AkA Frist....
But if we are the producers with the Christian voting party music label our artists could not be compromised at the identity level because it is well known and accepted that they were voted in under that label.
Now this doesnt mean we vote opposite of the republicans or democrats, it would just mean on our core issues we weild our power with strength and courage and if they expect to get anything done they will need our help. And since we are people of our word we will get what we want first from them because they are not people of their word and we know we will follow through.
This whole part could be established in 2 to 3 election cycles. It would mean we would pull our support from some of our favorite republican candidates for a while. However Until they see we are serious Lucy will continue to pull the football away knowing that we are obligated to forgive.
It is time that Charlie Brown walk away and start to form his own team, with clear goal posts and open objectives.
I agree with your frustration 100%, but I'm afraid if we pull from the Pubbies, that only means the Dems win. Then we'd be even worse off.
Two words of reference: Ross Perot... (= 8 years of Clinton)
It is exactly that Lie that keeps us on on the plantation. The warning that on the edge of the map reads.... " There be Dragons here". We need to be the Christopher Columbus's and sail on our own ship and find our own passage to the political new world.
What you need to do is organize on the QT then move in and elect your own guy in the primaries.
If you can't do that, he/she won't win anyway.
If you fail then you vote for the candidate who most closely shares your vews.
Please read!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54940-2005Mar21.html?referrer=emailarticle
I agree, spliting off is a guaranteed Democrat win for many years ( an unbearable thought at best ). I am for backing guys like Pence.
I am talking not one candidate but local state national. Yes there will be losses but if we do not use the power that millions of dollars, and countless hours of campaigning, what is the difference?
How about the GOP do more to accomodate its base instead of always falling back on the prospect of a Dem president to try and get conservatives to overlook non-conservaive GOP actions?
If Papa Bush had been more conservative, Ross Perot would have been a non-factor.
Perspective...it's 10 yeras since the GOP won control of Congress, yet only 5 that we've had a GOP president...and there have been major "distractions" from the social agenda..little things like 9/11 and the WoT for much of W's administration.On the positive side...the GOP majority in Congress is geting larger, and stronger, and you will soon see the GOP primary races becoming the dominant focus of future elections, and thus resulting in more conservative candidates. Look at Toomey's race against Spector..you'll see more of these in the future, and conservatives will win more often..Here's another consoling stat..60% of the members of the House Dem caucus have NEVER served in the majority..
It might make sense if you do it in such a way as to not harm conservative Republicans. For example, fielding a candidate in a district where the Dems are sure to win anyway, or in a district where someone has made a judgment that the candidate could likely beat both the Dem and GOP candidate.
Unfortunately, the former are the districts you don't want to be in, and the latter districts are probably few and far between.
Half a loaf of what we want is better than gay marriage, the de facto banning of teaching of the Bible (as occurs in Canada with liberals), HillaryCare, special rights for gays, discrimination against Christians, forced educational endocrination of homosexuality, hypersexuality, etc., fake environmental crud, and surrender to Islam (as Carter begs us to do).
The republicans are about 80% what we want.
I suspect it is liberals and democratic operatives who are trying to seperate the social conservatives from the republican party.
That's fine at the local level, but at the national level we need to support Republicans (else we get Clintons). The problem with new parties is they always want to start at the top (e.g. Ross Perot). The way to do it is start at the bottom with congresscritters and work your way up.
Here is the problem. Pence is one guy. Not connected with anyone else. If our people who are sponsored by our side get all the money and workers they need and that they know that the next election we will be backing someone else regardless of the great job they do they will be more likely to not be compromised as much by wanting to be re-elected. If they want to run again they are welcomed to but without support from us. If they want to run as a republican or democrat that is fine, they will know from the beginning that that is the deal we offer. One term, for the team, after that do what you want. IF they do a great job we can endorse but not fincially back them as candidate. We play for the team and the team only. That is the deal on our end and theirs. IF they can generate some kind of political power after playing one season for us that is fine, but we back only our candidates that will fight for our agenda first.
I don't disagree..I'm just inclined to give them more slack, and, er time...lots of the old bull Pubbies in the House and Senate..like Stevens..have to go..
I think we social conservatives can make the greatest impact by working from within... for the time being.
Be careful: This subject matter attracted a troll and the Undead Thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1454315/posts
I suspect if the GOP acted more conservative, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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