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Oregon anti-meth law would require prescriptions
Reuters ^ | 7 31 05 | Reuters

Posted on 07/31/2005 5:04:23 AM PDT by oldfarmer

PORTLAND, Ore. (Reuters) - A bill passed by lawmakers on Saturday would make Oregon the first U.S. state to require a doctor's prescription for cold medicines containing an ingredient that can be used to make the illegal drug methamphetamine.

"We hope this will reduce the supply" of meth, Democratic state Sen. Ginny Burdick told Reuters after the Senate passed the bill.

Oregon's House of Representatives approved the measure earlier this month and Democratic Gov. Ted Kulongoski was expected to sign it.

The bill has widespread support, but critics say it would hurt people without medical insurance who cannot afford to go to a doctor for a cold or an allergy.

Although much of the nation's meth supply is produced in large labs in Mexico, the addictive drug can be made in smaller labs with easily available equipment and ingredients, including cold or allergy medicines containing pseudoephedrine.

U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said recently that meth had surpassed marijuana as the drug posing the greatest danger to the nation's children

(Excerpt) Read more at today.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: assininebs; deadsquid; donutwatch; methmouth; opensores; pseudoephedrine; skinny; trailerparks; wodlist
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This is a prime example of a few individuals ruining it for everyone.
1 posted on 07/31/2005 5:04:25 AM PDT by oldfarmer
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To: oldfarmer
This is a prime example of a few individuals ruining it for everyone.

Yes, well, isn't that what they're elected to do?

2 posted on 07/31/2005 5:07:05 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: oldfarmer

Isn't that the truth.


3 posted on 07/31/2005 5:08:47 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: oldfarmer

you got that right. Years ago when pseudoephedrine was made available OTC it was a huge financial relief for my family. Instead of having to run to the DR. everytime somebodies allergies acted up we could get the medicine from the drugstore and in most cases long before the allergy got out of control! No long waits to see the dr. or at the pharmacy, no raging allergies or sinusitis, no resulting sinus infections due to severity...those few have just made my life go back to the miserable side again!

There goes Sudafed, NyQuil, DayQuil, Advil Cold/Sinus, most Cold medicines....et al.


4 posted on 07/31/2005 5:22:44 AM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: oldfarmer

Bill is being fought by the ADA and dentists state wide.


5 posted on 07/31/2005 5:29:23 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

In WV they just took these medicines off the shelves. You must ask the pharmicist for them. No perscription needed, but they are not in the open. I think it reduces the ability to acquire the quantity needed for meth production. At the rate they're busting these labs here, it should be easy to see if this works fairly quickly.


6 posted on 07/31/2005 5:49:53 AM PDT by Roccus (The collective has started.)
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To: oldfarmer
Here's my letter the Oregonian said they were going to publish, but never did.

It's hard to believe that the Oregonian legislature could create any law more idiotic than the sidewalk crossing law or the 20 mph school zones 24 hours a day, but they did! The bill passed by the house would require everyone who needs medication containing Sudafed to get a prescription from a doctor. The legislature actually believes that this bill can actually help in the fight against meth in the state of Oregon. HA! Are they joking? The meth manufacturers are only going to get their Sudafed from other states or countries. In the mean time, us Oregonians who suffer the daily pain of allergies are now going to have to jump through hoops that are not required in any other state. Oregonians like myself who do not have a family doctor will now have to set up unneeded appointments, pay for an unneeded medical visits, drive to pharmacies, wait in line with tissues in hand and probably pay more for the same medication. I don't know about you, but I'm going to Vancouver or the internet for my medication and I'm not going to vote for those legislatures who lack what the rest of Oregonians have, common sense.
7 posted on 07/31/2005 5:56:17 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
I thought that the Supreme Court just said that growing your own medical marijuana in your back yard was interstate commerce and that it was up to the Feds to regulate medicines.
8 posted on 07/31/2005 6:09:27 AM PDT by Tom D. (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benj. Franklin)
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To: Roccus
In WV they just took these medicines off the shelves. You must ask the pharmicist for them.

That sounds like a much better solution. I know it puts the pharmacist in a "cop" role, but better they assume some responsibility within their trade than put a financial burden on the rest of the public.

9 posted on 07/31/2005 6:33:42 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: oldfarmer

I brought the upcoming vote on this issue with a major "Tweaker". She said, "No problem, the cooks will just come up with another way to make it." It's a stupid law to appease the majority of ignorant tax payers. The State of Oregon bites the big one....


10 posted on 07/31/2005 6:36:32 AM PDT by Birdsbane (If You Are Employed By A Liberal Democrat...Quit!)
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To: EBH

Can these things be ordered online?
If so, problem solved. Stock up.

I'd be madder than Heck if I had to go get a prescription every time I needed allergy medicine.


11 posted on 07/31/2005 6:36:57 AM PDT by Muzzle_em
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To: oldfarmer

There should be some kind of committee in every state, made up of an anonymous citizen panel (to reduce special interest tampering) with access to specialized experts. This committee's sole purpose shall be to examine each new law passed by the legislature for the first five years after its enactment. They will examine the impact of the law, the cost of the law, whether or not the law had the desired impact, and any negative effects from the law. They can present their findings to the legislature in an advisory role. The findings should also be released to the public.

If after being confronted with a bad law, the legislature chooses not to act where action is demanded, then those with interest can take up the matter in the public sphere. Some smart politician will run on it. It's always fun to go after bad laws, and it just isn't done enough.

Five years from now, who will determine if this new law in Oregon will really have done anything to lower meth use? I believe that there will not be ONE fewer meth addict as a result of this legislation. Not ONE. It's going to cause a lot of hassle to a whole lot of people, most significantly, doctors and sick people. It's going to cost money. It's going to cause trouble for the health insurance companies too, who will have to approve these myriad new prescriptions like they approve all others. But who is going to stick around and watch this, and who is going to let the people know? Who holds the legislature responsible for a bad law?

As usual, people will eventually get used to all of the hassle, costs and prices will go up, and few will remember the cause of all the hassle.


12 posted on 07/31/2005 6:44:56 AM PDT by DameAutour (I'm uniquely one of us and one of them.)
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To: oldfarmer

Thus the anti-freedom Nazis must ruin it for everyone. A prescription for OVER THE DANGED COUNTER cold medicine? IT's bad enough that we now have to get the little tag from the medicine isle and take it to the pharmacy counter.

It's OTC for a reason -

I guess we need to start automatically burning down all meth houses and appartments. All those convicted of producing meth should be immediately sentenced to the firing squad (or to be hanged). I'm sick of this mess. I know there are those here who defend the "right" to illegal drugs - but anyone who thinks meth is A-OK for ANYONE should be shot as well. I have seen way too many lives destroyed by meth - and it's not because of the WOD - it's because the drug is that insidious.

It's time we take our rights back - and punish those who would cause us to loose those rights.


13 posted on 07/31/2005 6:48:40 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan)
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To: GVgirl
NONE of these laws are necessary and they will not stop meth production. You need tens of thousands of these pills to make a batch of meth. People who are running meth labs aren't getting their supplies at Walgreen's, they're getting them in bulk from over the border. Oh, sure, there are probably a handful of people here and there who create much tinier supplies by buying a thousand pills, but those people are easy to spot if they wanted to.
14 posted on 07/31/2005 6:56:57 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: oldfarmer
Doesn't pseudoephedrine cause heart problems too? I am surprised they didn't ban it years ago.
15 posted on 07/31/2005 7:04:06 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: EBH

I have to ask the pharmacy for Actifed - the only thing that works on me when my allergies kick in - and if I have to go to a doctor to get a prescription, I'll most likely not go. I'm not about to pay $75-$100 for a 3-second consultation. This means I'll have to blow my nose more while driving - look OUT!!

This also means that folks would get sicker, as the waiting list to get into the doctor's would be longer, and of course insurance rates would go up since everybody's using it to get their prescriptions.

On the other hand, with folks feeling more awful than usual, they might stay home instead of going to work to infect all their co-workers.

This also means less street drug production, except that the criminals are like water - they always find a path. They'll simply find another source, and it will spawn a new business, which is black market OTC drug supplier. Yippee.

The cons are so far outweighing the pros.


16 posted on 07/31/2005 7:04:20 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: EBH

yup , but Hey, I'll FReepmail ya my excursion into reality!! LOL!!


17 posted on 07/31/2005 7:12:59 AM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: oldfarmer; oregon; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; ...

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18 posted on 07/31/2005 7:14:17 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

BTTT!


19 posted on 07/31/2005 7:16:05 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: oldfarmer
"This is a prime example of a few individuals ruining it for everyone."

The Tylenol killer makes my life far more miserable on a daily basis than any meth chemist.

20 posted on 07/31/2005 7:17:32 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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