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Judicial comment sets Crist apart
St. Petersburg Times ^ | July 31, 2005 | STEVE BOUSQUET

Posted on 07/31/2005 3:38:47 AM PDT by amdgmary

TALLAHASSEE - It was one of the shortest speeches of Charlie Crist's career, but as a campaign for governor unfolds, it may prove to be one of the most memorable.

Two weeks ago, the Republican attorney general and candidate for governor gave a late-night speech to a roomful of lawyers in Miami where he referred to the judges in the Terri Schiavo case as "heroes."

Crist insists he wasn't endorsing court rulings that prevented the brain-damaged woman's feeding tube from being reconnected, but critics view it differently. And by appearing to break his silence in the Schiavo case, Crist has sharpened the contrast between himself and Republican rival Tom Gallagher, who has said he favored government action to "prevent Terri's starvation."

At the dinner in Miami, Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer and U.S. District Judge James Whittemore of Tampa were honored as jurists of the year by the Florida chapter of ABOTA, the American Board of Trial Advocates. The group champions judicial independence and its members are lawyers who represent both plaintiffs and defendants.

Greer is the judge who ordered Schiavo's feeding tube removed, rejecting a subpoena from Congress and pleas from Gov. Jeb Bush, and Whittemore also denied emergency requests to reinsert the tube in the weeks before Schiavo died March 31. Both men's decisions were later upheld by higher courts, and both were praised and vilified by opposing sides of the emotionally charged end-of-life case.

Crist said he was "proud" of both judges.

"You are heroes to all of us, and your defense of the judiciary and what is right is beyond admirable," Crist was quoted in the Daily Business Review, a Miami newspaper that provided the only news account of the July 15 event at the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables.

In an interview, Crist did not dispute the quotations. Nor did he offer a view of whether he agreed with their decisions. Rather, he said, he praised them for fulfilling their constitutional duty to provide checks and balances against the other two branches of government.

"I try to say nice things about judges. I'm sure I was complimentary," said Crist, who as the state's chief legal officer often speaks at bar-related events. "I didn't talk about any specific case. ... It's important that those checks and balances exist. Our system of government needs to have that."

Crist's comments have resonated far beyond the Biltmore.

"Judge Greer is a poster child for everything that's wrong with the judiciary," said Gary Cass, executive director of the Center for Reclaiming America, a grass roots Christian political group in Fort Lauderdale that lists "sanctity of life" as one of its priorities and plans to form a political action committee.

"For Charlie Crist to hold that up as an example of good judicial practice concerns me," Cass said. "I think it was a mistake for Charlie to say that. I don't know how anybody can be happy about a woman being deprived food and water."

Rep. Dennis Baxley, the Republican from Ocala who sponsored legislation last spring to force the tube to be reconnected, said Crist's speech was revealing.

"I think it is one of those very important moments for us to know where he (Crist) stands," Baxley said. "I truly believe there's a lot of people out there who were sensitive to this case who are going to find those comments, and that association, very instructive. I'm understanding where people line up on this."

Baxley said that while Crist was "conspicuously absent" from the Schiavo debate in the Legislature, Gallagher sent Baxley a personal letter of support last spring. While activists in the Schiavo debate take aim at Crist, his Republican rival Gallagher is not.

"Tom's made his position very clear in the past. There's really no comment we're going to make on that," said David Johnson, a Gallagher adviser.

Polls show a majority of Americans agreed with the judges' decisions to order the removal of Schiavo's tube, as her husband, Michael, said she wanted. By a greater margin, polls show people were opposed to Congress' intervention in the case.

But to those who view the long-running Schiavo saga as a test case of support for the sanctity of life - like abortion - Greer and Whittemore are "judicial activists" who starved a woman to death.

Many of those people can vote in the Republican primary for governor in September 2006. Crist's stand on the Schiavo case could prove to be an asset if he wins the GOP nomination and faces a Democrat. But one Republican strategist said the damage has been done.

"Schiavo killed the Republicans. They've lost the women's vote," said Matt Towery, an ex-Republican legislator who now runs an Atlanta media and polling firm. "It's one of those turning points that you just can't get away from."


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To: floriduh voter
>> If you like to fish, don't come to Pinellas County.

I don't care much about fishing, dollink, and I STILL refuse to visit Pinellas County.

I started to say, "... wouldn't be caught dead in Pinellas County" but the trouble is, to get caught dead in Pinellas County, all you have to do is show up and bring your bank book.

401 posted on 08/11/2005 5:38:25 PM PDT by T'wit (Twit's Law #41: If justice were for sale, you could finally get some.)
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To: T'wit
We don't say "caught dead" here because hearsay evidence is admissable and Greer's goons aren't getting me.

Info on this Book is on my web page at the bottom.


402 posted on 08/11/2005 5:40:51 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: T'wit

And, when in Florida, never say "I'm speechless".


403 posted on 08/11/2005 5:41:43 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: BykrBayb

The euthanazi's tried to replicate what Doc Mengela did in Germany by having a sick exhibit of corpses from China. The Bodies in the exhibit aren't cooperating if they are melting. The euthanazi's and the death care system doesn't win them all.


404 posted on 08/11/2005 5:45:08 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: floriduh voter

They're trying to use the excuse that it's educational. Wasn't that Mengele's excuse?


405 posted on 08/11/2005 5:47:00 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: T'wit

403. Ba da bing.


406 posted on 08/11/2005 5:47:43 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: amdgmary

Tourists aren't going to Aruba and Jamaica due to violence against women. Eventually, they are going to avoid Pinellas County, Florida too.


407 posted on 08/11/2005 5:50:14 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: floriduh voter

I am and let everybody I know in on it..including Jeb.


408 posted on 08/11/2005 5:55:05 PM PDT by trustandobey (Delay 2008)
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To: floriduh voter

thanks FV, i really appreciate any prayer for him. Honestly, I pray that God will take him quickly just to spare him the pain he will have to endure till he dies. My mother said he was in better spirits this afternoon and actually got up out of bed to eat and do a few simple things. But no doubt he is so much pain and in the end of days for himself. I will keep you and everyone posted.


409 posted on 08/11/2005 6:11:54 PM PDT by Halls (Terri Schindler Schiavo was murdered legally in our country, NEVER FORGET!!!)
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To: floriduh voter
Other things not to say in Florida:

"I've been on my feet all afternoon and I'M READY TO COLLAPSE."

"I took one look at you, that's all I meant to do, and then MY HEART STOOD STILL."

"My throat is so sore I CAN HARDLY SWALLOW."

"My heart beats so that I CAN HARDLY SPEAK, when we're out together dancing cheek to cheek."

"California grows so much produce, you'd think you're IN A PACIFIC VEGETABLE STATE."

"I used to work in a television store but I HATE TO LIVE WITH ALL THOSE TUBES."

"I'm going to have surgery tomorrow, and until then, the doctor says DON'T GIVE ME ANY WATER OR FOOD."

410 posted on 08/11/2005 6:16:30 PM PDT by T'wit (Twit's Law #41: If justice were for sale, you could finally get some.)
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To: floriduh voter
FV, here is some more stuff on our guy Michael, from Cheryl Ford.

Ford Comments: What a GUY!  Hopefully, the mold was broken after he was born!  
 
Click here: Schiavo seeks to sue wife's caregivers - Insight on the News - National
 

Schiavo seeks to sue wife's caregivers


Aug. 11, 2005

(CNSNews.com) -- Michael Schiavo has asked a Florida court to extend the deadline for him to file lawsuits under the state's medical malpractice laws. The move indicates that Schiavo could be planning to sue some of the medical professionals who cared for his former wife, Terri Schiavo.

Cybercast News Service has learned that the request is related to an alleged incident of medical malpractice that occurred on or about Aug. 14, 2003. Terri Schiavo was admitted to Morton Plant Hospital on Aug. 15, 2003 for an infection that developed into pneumonia.

A source with knowledge of the petition, who did not want to be identified, speculated that Michael might be planning to sue the hospice where Terri was being kept at that time for alleged violation of a "Do Not Resuscitate" order he had placed on her medical chart. Michael had asked the court to intervene and block the hospital from treating Terri's infection, but a judge refused the request.



Michael Schiavo's attorney in the matter, Mark Perenich, told the Tampa Bay Tribune that he could not discuss the details of the request or identify who might be the subject of any potential lawsuit. Florida law establishes a two-year statute of limitations for medical malpractice claims, unless a potential plaintiff receives an extension from the courts.

Schiavo had previously criticized two nurses, Carla Sauer Iyer and Heidi Law, and a certified nursing assistant, Carolyn Johnson, who, as Cybercast News Service previously reported, disputed Schiavo's descriptions of his wife's condition. The caregivers had also filed affidavits in conjunction with a complaint to the Florida Department of Children and Family Services by Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler.

The individual with knowledge of the petition, who spoke to Cybercast News Service, said Iyer, Law and Johnson would be unlikely targets because they were criticized for allegedly violating Terri's "privacy," not for alleged malpractice.

Terri Schiavo died March 31, two weeks after her husband had her feeding and hydration tube removed by court order. She suffered from a brain injury caused by oxygen deprivation. An autopsy determined that Terri had never had a heart attack, nor suffered from a potassium imbalance as argued by attorneys for her husband in a previous medical malpractice lawsuit. The autopsy determined that Terri Schiavo's cause of death was dehydration. The medical examiner ruled the manner of her death "undetermined" because the cause of the oxygen deprivation that caused her brain injury could not be identified.

 

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411 posted on 08/11/2005 9:27:34 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

The first two malpractice suits were both fraudulent. Sooner or later the facts and the law are going to catch up with Michael. But that's the way it is with criminals. When they get away with their crimes, they get overconfident and make some thoughtless mistake.


412 posted on 08/12/2005 5:58:33 AM PDT by T'wit (Twit's Law #41: If justice were for sale, you could finally get some.)
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To: T'wit

I can see it happening, perhaps soon.


413 posted on 08/12/2005 6:20:31 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; Abby4116; Alissa; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
Roberts discussion from tutstar. Also Michael sues hospice, couple of posts above.

John Roberts


414 posted on 08/12/2005 6:31:28 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: 8mmMauser; russesjunjee; tutstar; Sun; BykrBayb; Theodore R.; Calpernia; STARWISE; Republic; cyn; ..
Hospice pays PROTECTION TO THE PINELLAS PARK POLICE DEPT. SO HE AND JUDGE GREER, ET AL CAN KILL HIS WIFE and he is suing Hospice? Now, he's getting carried away.

Hospice paid approx. $138,000 for PROTECTION from the jack booted thugs and now he's suing Hospice? I'd say that Hospice has grounds for a counter-claim. Maybe they'll wise up some time and get back to their original mission statement which was sound.

Are we certain that HINO is suing Hospice? I haven't seen anything from the press about it.

415 posted on 08/12/2005 6:45:23 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: trustandobey
What are you going to tell Jeb? I can't remember what I was on the soap box about yesterday.

"I am and let everybody I know in on it..including Jeb." Thanks for keeping Jeb's phone lines hopping. They are starting to refer people to the RNC and that's a good call to make too.

I bet that Jeb's Governor's line is getting tired of hearing from Terri's supporters. Too bad. This was on their watch and they let it happen.

416 posted on 08/12/2005 6:49:22 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: 8mmMauser
A Christian radio station wanted to interview soft spoken Christians from the Vigil. In other words, I was pre-screened and was ready to go on the air. Then I said the following "This is the Terri War." Suddenly, she got a cell call and had to be on her way. I guess I wasn't soft spoken enough.

Does my censored comment ring true today? I think it is the Terri War, a cultural war and a war fueled by HINO and the ilk who take him as a client and the judges who are getting a little something under the table.

417 posted on 08/12/2005 6:56:33 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: floriduh voter; T'wit

FV, Insight is a fairly significant magazine put out by Washington Times, which is established as a balance to the liberal Washington Post. So that might give this hospice suit some credibility.

I am not surprised. When as T'wit says, evil people get away with their crimes they see themselves as untouchable, above reach, and they lose perspective, ready to attack anything.

8mm


418 posted on 08/12/2005 7:15:11 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

His last suit imo, will be in fed bankruptcy court in Tampa. But, the good news is that if you live in Florida like O.J. Simpson does, you don't lose your home in bankruptcy.


419 posted on 08/12/2005 7:17:08 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: floriduh voter

It was kind of revealing to be interviewed, to say the truth and then see the interviewer's eyes glaze over, and turn away, looking for a more agreeable source.

It happened to me and I watched it happening to friends. Plenty of interviews done there wound up scrapped. Every once in awhile, some of it would get out, abridged.

8mm


420 posted on 08/12/2005 7:18:53 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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