The Definition of Treason: Why the US Government doesn't stop the illegal alien invasion.

NewsMinute ^ | July 30, 2005 | Kerry R. Fox

[Borax Queen]

"...those who formally rule take their signals and commands, not from the electorate as a body, but from a small group of men (plus a few women). This group will be called the Establishment. It exists even though that existence is stoutly denied; it is one of the secrets of the American social order. A second secret is the fact that the existence of the Establishment - the ruling class - is not supposed to be discussed. A third secret is implicit in what has been said - that there is really only one political party of any consequence in the United States, one that has been called the 'Property Party.' The Republicans and the Democrats are in fact two branches of the same (secret) party."

Arthur S. Miller, George Washington University law professor, The Secret Constitution and The Need For Constitutional Change, p.3

[Ron H.]

The plan; register to vote, and then vote - out ANY incumbent that has spoken up for in any way for the current situation, e.g. guest worker status, amnesty, increased benefits for illegal's such as education benefits and etc. no matter where they stand on any other issue and replace them. Anything short of that is useless.

[janetgreen]

A third secret is implicit in what has been said - that there is really only one political party of any consequence in the United States, one that has been called the 'Property Party.' The Republicans and the Democrats are in fact two branches of the same (secret) party.

This realization is what caused my exodus from the GOP to the Constitution Party two years ago.

[FBD]

Bump^ to your post:
>"there is really only one political party of any consequence in the United States, one that has been called the 'Property Party.'"<

-Demiclans and Republicrats?

[Types_with_Fist]

Illegal imigration may be a problem of note, but not anywhere as serious as drug use and abortion right here among US born citizens.

Just wait a while. The problem is coming your way.

[american spirit]

Try telling that to some American family whose lives have been
devastated because a loved one was raped, robbed or murdered by some cretin who should not even be here......we have enough homegrown gangsta punks that do enough damage so why import more?

[eleni121]

I stand by what I said.

[eleni121]

"Illegal imigration may be a problem of note, but not anywhere as serious as drug use and abortion right here among US born citizens."

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I posted that and I will stand by that.

[american spirit]

So do I.......only with more conviction.

[elbucko]

what nafta did was drive the mexicn farmers off their land because they could not compete with US agribusiness.

This is true, I know some of these people. NAFTA has been a disaster to much of Mexican agriculture. NAFTA has been an economic failure for Mexico and foreign relation failure for the US.

[eleni121]

30 million aborted kids and that many drug afflicted people far surpasses the problem of illegal immigration - essentially an economic problem.

[american spirit]

Sorry, but illegal immigration is the conditioning tactic to force us to accept a new "American Union" that will move heaven and earth to destroy our Constitution, legal system and our borders if it's not stopped in it's tracks. If we lose our national sovereignty, issues like stem cell research, abortion, etc. will pale in comparison with what we'll be facing.

Also, any people have been wallowing for years wringing their hands over our drug problems.......ever stop to think that if we had more secure borders a lot of drugs couldn't even make it across the border?

The abortion problem could be solved immediately if there was purge of the gutless pastors in this country that are more concerned over their 401K's, big houses and their precious 501C-3 tax status with IRS....so much so they're deathly afraid to come out and tell the truth about abortion as well as rallying Christians to get off their collective fat asses and get into the streets if need be to shut the hole abortion industry down. It's a pipe dream but it could be done in short order when the day comes Christians decide they actually have some intestinal fortitude.

[SunStar]

I'm saying State Citizens exist. "United State citizen" is NOWHERE to be found in the Federalist Papers, the Constitution, or anything else I've read.

How about the 14th Amendment???

Article XIV.
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

[hershey]

If Hill can wrap her hands around this and still woo her Hispanic base, she's got a very big issue to run on.

[MamaTexan]

How about the 14th Amendment??? Article XIV. Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Good question!

It's not the citizen aspect of the 14th that is crucial, it's the use of the word *person*, as well as:

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

The jurisdiction of the United States government is enumerated in the Constitution itself:

Article 1, Section 8 paragraph 17-
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

So Congress has jurisdiction (authority) in Washington D.C., ports, military bases, and any property a State has given the federal government.

A Citizen of the united States is a citizen of a state....totally different that a 'United States citizen"

This has been affirmed by these decisions:

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"A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government ..."
(Kitchens v. Steele 112 F.Supp 383).

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"... a construction is to be avoided, if possible, that would render the law unconstitutional, or raise grave doubts thereabout. In view of these rules it is held that `citizen' means `citizen of the United States,' and not a person generally, nor citizen of a State ..."
U.S. Supreme Court in US v. Cruikshank, 92 US 542:

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In 1887 the Supreme Court in Baldwin v. Franks 7 SCt 656, 662; 120 US 678, 690 found that:
"In the constitution and laws of the United States the word `citizen' is generally, if not always, used in a political sense ... It is so used in section 1 of article 14 of the amendments of the constitution ..."

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The US Supreme Court in Logan v. US, 12 SCt 617, 626:
"In Baldwin v. Franks ... it was decided that the word `citizen' .... was used in its political sense, and not as synonymous with `resident', `inhabitant', or `person' ..."

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14 CJS section 4 quotes State v. Manuel 20 NC 122:
"... the term `citizen' in the United States, is analogous to the term `subject' in the common law; the change of phrase has resulted from the change in government."

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125 Fed 322, 325:
"The thirteenth amendment is a great extension of the powers of the national government."

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U.S. v. Rhodes, 27 Federal Cases 785, 794:
"The amendment [fourteenth] reversed and annulled the original policy of the constitution"

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Believe me, I am NOT happy living with the knowledge that my own government has stolen the birthright of freedom from generations of Americans, but it is the ONLY reasonable and logical explanation there is.