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The Definition of Treason: Why the US Government doesn't stop the illegal alien invasion.
NewsMinute ^ | July 30, 2005 | Kerry R. Fox

Posted on 07/30/2005 8:59:55 AM PDT by Borax Queen

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To: ConsentofGoverned
"NO MONEY UNTIL YOU ACT ON SECURE BORDERS."

You nailed it. Therein lies the solution to this nonsense.

The one damned thing ALL career politicians understand is money.

Withhold money and you'll see some $hit happen in a manner like you've never seen before.

All politicians by nature are self serving creatures. They follow the money first. If they don't, they're doomed to having to make a go of it in the "real world"....and I ain't talking about MTV here folks.
41 posted on 07/30/2005 11:31:14 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Borax Queen

This is the most serious issue facing our country. It is really sad to see right minded people blindly supporting Bush. Vote constitution party before it is to late.


42 posted on 07/30/2005 11:34:45 AM PDT by doc
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To: Borax Queen
Money is always the bottom line. We might as well scrap the bald eagle and erect a shrine to our new mascot...the golden calf. I guess it really doesn't matter who we vote for, anymore. They're all with the same program. Of course some parrot conservative goals, but deep down, they're all the same. I'll bet they laugh themselves silly as we dutifully trudge to the voting booths. It reminds me of the definition of insanity: to keep doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results.

Are the new BK laws, and the recent iminent domain decision, coincidental?

43 posted on 07/30/2005 11:44:23 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
If any serious FR can explain the current illegal invasion across the Southern border with the inaction of government that does not involve global cabals and corruption at highest levels PLEASE DO.. I have yet to see a coherent argument as to why the Federal government cannot act to control this border.

(sigh)

If you really want to know, I'll tell you...but it involves disregarding a LOT of what you think you know about government in general and the law in particular.

First, you need to know the legal definition of

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legal
adj., adv. according to law, not in violation of law or anything related to the law.

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That seems to be pretty straightforward- now look at the legal definition of the opposed word, ‘illegal’-

illegal
1) adj. in violation of statute, regulation or ordinance, which may be criminal or merely not in conformity. Thus, an armed robbery is illegal, and so is an access road which is narrower than the county allows, but the violation is not criminal.

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Well of course armed robbery is illegal; it’s a violation of the 8th Commandment. But if a narrow access road is illegal, how can it NOT be criminal?

Because any statute, regulation, ordinance or act that does anything OTHER than describe punishment for violations of Commandments 6 through 10 are not laws that affect the people! They are merely governmental policies, and only governmental entities must ‘conform’ to them!

Our 'legal system" uses a great many of what they call ~words of art~. These are words with double meanings, or meanings very different to the common definitions.

One of these words is 'Person'. Person has 2 very different legal meanings:

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Black's Law Dictionary (7th Ed.) (1999)
person
1. A human being.
2. An entity (such as a corporation) that is recognized by law as having the rights and duties of a human being.

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The common definition and the first legal definition are the same. The second legal definition however, is used only if a person intentionally, with knowledge and consent, uses the law of contracts to create an artificial entity in order to start a business and/or protect his assets. Any artificial entity purposely created never has the exact same name as a living person

Because true law says exactly what it means and means exactly what it says, ‘person’ is defined even further.

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Black's Law Dictionary ;
"natural person" : A human being, as distinguished from an artificial person created by law.
"artificial person" : An entity, such as a corporation, created by law and given certain legal rights and duties of a human being.

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No big deal, right? UNTIL, you discover this tiny little fact:

Using the INTENT of the Founders in establishing our Republic, you will discover there is NO SUCH THING as a ~United States citizen~. All the writings of the Founders that I've read say 'citizen of the United States', or STATE citizen.......NEVER United States citizen.

A 'United States citizen' is an artificial creation, (a.k.a. *legal entity*, *artificial person*) of an artificial construct known as 'government'. We VOLUNTARILY place ourselves under the statutory jurisdiction of the federal government by claiming to be United States citizens.

The United States government was originally constructed to deal STRICTLY with the governments of the respective STATES....not the physical land mass of the 'state' OR the People.

Illegals have no *legal entity*, so they are still considered 'natural persons'. BY LAW. Natural persons are under the jurisdiction of natural, or common/civil law.

Here is nolo's definition of:
natural person
A living, breathing human being, as opposed to a legal entity such as a corporation. Different rules and protections apply to natural persons and corporations, such as the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, which applies only to natural persons.

That's why THEY get preferential treatment over Americans....they have no legal entity BECAUSE THEY ARE *illegal*.

It's also why United States citizens and their unseen 'artificial persons' are LEGALLY required to obey the unconstitutional whims of government, from Congress to the tiniest podunk city council.... no matter HOW much we know it's not right.

44 posted on 07/30/2005 11:47:51 AM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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To: hosepipe

As Bush's latino attorney general, "these minutemen are vigilantes" and "this border issue is a complicated one that needs to be studied". Need we say more. The ground swell of voter revolt starts here. Wake up people.


45 posted on 07/30/2005 11:48:17 AM PDT by doc
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To: hosepipe

It doesn't matter which party is in power when it comes to the illegal immigration issue. Sure the democrats are worse than the republicans but are you willing to accept either negative? Vote principle.


46 posted on 07/30/2005 11:53:00 AM PDT by doc
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To: doc
This is the most serious issue facing our country. It is really sad to see right minded people blindly supporting Bush. Vote constitution party before it is to late.

LOL... Good one!

47 posted on 07/30/2005 11:55:35 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Borax Queen

I can't help thinking about Bush Daddy's "New World Order".


48 posted on 07/30/2005 12:11:13 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


49 posted on 07/30/2005 12:23:02 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: MamaTexan
"That's why THEY get preferential treatment over Americans....they have no legal entity BECAUSE THEY ARE *illegal*."

hmm seems rather convoluted so maybe you could explain under the system you have created for a natural person
what is the function of a passport?
50 posted on 07/30/2005 12:44:29 PM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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To: Founding Father
The funny thing is, people can read this treason from the CFR and....they don't believe it. It's just words, and they don't actually think it will come to pass.

But it is doing so as we speak.

51 posted on 07/30/2005 1:12:51 PM PDT by Regulator
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52 posted on 07/30/2005 1:36:45 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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To: Mulch
We will need to coordinate a very well reasoned and comprehensive long term plan to counter the acts by our government to dismantle America.

We need a plan to dismantle the present government cabal. Clean house!

Break up the two party monopoly!!!

53 posted on 07/30/2005 1:41:33 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
hmm seems rather convoluted so maybe you could explain under the system you have created for a natural person what is the function of a passport?

It's really not as complex as it sounds, and I didn't create the system of natural law.

The function of a passport:
pass·port (pspôrt, -prt) n.
1. An official government document that certifies one's identity and citizenship and permits a citizen to travel abroad.

Even under natural law, the Constitution plays a part.

The people GAVE the federal government control over 'Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings' (US Constitution Article 1, section 8 p.17) when we ordained and established the Constitution.

The federal government exercises a legitimate authority by requiring a passport to pass through their 'turf'

Is that what you meant, or did I misunderstand the question?

54 posted on 07/30/2005 2:04:30 PM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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To: Borax Queen

Bump for later


55 posted on 07/30/2005 2:05:24 PM PDT by afnamvet (Jet noise...The Sound of Freedomâ„¢)
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To: Borax Queen
Without agreeing with all of your conclusions, as to the motives and consequences, the problems you describe have reached a critical point, where we had better react--and react with all the influence we can bring to bear. Zero tolerance for political liars, is certainly in order.

My August essay at the Website, posted today, is on much the same subject:

Days Of Shame.

William Flax

56 posted on 07/30/2005 2:14:03 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Robert Lomax

Bush spoke before Congress on Sept. 11, 1990, delivering a speech which he entitled "Toward a New World Order". Addressing the subject of his Gulf War, he made his first public utterance of his, and his rich cronies" plans for a world imperialism in stating that the war in Iraq was "...a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of coopera- tion. Out of these troubled times...a new world order can emerge."


57 posted on 07/30/2005 2:41:27 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: Borax Queen

"Nobody wants to believe that their president, senators and other elected officials might be traitors to The United States of America and its Constitution. But, by definition"

I do and it becomes clearer every day!


58 posted on 07/30/2005 2:45:18 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Good post, Don't_Tread. The hardline is the rightline in this case.

The article made sense until I got to this, which I would appreciate if someone here could explain:

"The selling of our national sovereignty and the implementation of a two-class, welfare-warfare socialist police state also needs... an effective PR campaign."


59 posted on 07/30/2005 3:00:47 PM PDT by Canedawg (modern liberalism is a communist plot)
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To: Borax Queen
It's all being done by design...

For cheap labor for corporate donors: Big business has enjoyed several years of unabated watering-down of wages and benefits due, mostly, to illegals coming into the United States to "pick fruit." The illegals are also "doing the jobs Americans won't do." These are the jobs that Americans can't do because corporations enjoy hiring the illegal aliens illegally over American citizens in order to pay less wages and benefits.

For additional votes: Obviously illegals, once registered to vote, can vote for the party that helps get more illegals into the United States (both parties in this case), so that they can go to work for the corporations for less wages and benefits.

This is really the bottom line of the whole enterprise: Money.

I've been saying this for years...in the public school classroom. I have been having to move to a new job every 2-3 years until I finally quit talking about it. This guy is right on target. And, no one will help those of us who have known...no one. I've tried to get a job where I can use my fluent bilingual skills -- nope. No deal, just teaching school.

60 posted on 07/30/2005 3:07:19 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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