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Breast-feeding mom demands apology for indecent exposure ticket
GJsentinel ^ | July 28, 2005 - 11:33 p.m

Posted on 07/30/2005 8:15:50 AM PDT by Asphalt

FORT COLLINS, Colo. — Never mind officials voiding a $50 ticket for indecent exposure, or an explanation from county officials that a ranger who issued the citation to the breast-feeding mother was inexperienced.

Dorian Ryan said she wants an apology for what she called a "humiliating and degrading" experience.

"This isn't right. Women shouldn't be harassed for breast-feeding their children," Dorian Ryan said.

Colorado lawmakers agree. A law passed last year gives women the right to breast feed anywhere she's allowed to be in public.

Ryan, 43, was ticketed for indecent exposure July 14 when she breast fed her son at the Carter Lake swim beach in Larimer County. She was shielded from view by two umbrellas and a towel.

An inexperienced park ranger mistakenly issued the ticket, said Dan Rieves, manager of the Blue Mountain District, which oversees the beach. Park officials have voided the ticket.

Rieves, who has been in contact with Ryan, said a written apology would be sent Friday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: apologizethis; blahblahblah; breastfeeding; co; donutwatch; dorianryan; mmmmtittymmm; shutupwhiner; who
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To: Houmatt
whips out a boob

Ten lashes with a riding crop for that...

181 posted on 07/30/2005 11:09:05 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Bobbling... boggling ... oh heck, bring on the pie and root beer!)
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To: It's me

Some do. Some don't. There it is.


182 posted on 07/30/2005 11:10:08 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Crush! Kill! Destroy the heathen!)
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To: Ma3lst0rm

Right on, Ma!


183 posted on 07/30/2005 11:12:08 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Bobbling... boggling ... oh heck, bring on the pie and root beer!)
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To: The Phantom FReeper

Yes, that's true. And some babies take to it better than others do. Ya never know. :)


184 posted on 07/30/2005 11:14:14 AM PDT by exnavychick (Whom the gods would destroy they first make chads.)
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To: sportutegrl

Excellent answer. I'm for the sucklings! And their generous, sensible, decorous and splendid mothers!


185 posted on 07/30/2005 11:14:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Bobbling... boggling ... oh heck, bring on the pie and root beer!)
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To: Chiapet
Do I agree that there are some breast-feeding women who do it in public just to get in people's faces? Yes.

That's activism.... It's like any other demonstration to change tolerance, sometimes it works, sometimes it offends. Activism exists as a counterforce against the types of attitudes here.... the equal and opposite reaction to "women should stay home until the child is weaned."

186 posted on 07/30/2005 11:16:17 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Help us support our troops! - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: ExitPurgamentum
The "Greatest Generation" is an overstatement and you've got the counts on it. The term, the ideation, is more MSM propaganda for socialism for how can one argue against all the FDR socialism, and to a lesser extent against the huge growth in Ike's social programs (the GI-bill, the national defense highway system, the national defense education loans, etc.) without running afoul of the ideals of the "Greatest Generation"?

However each generation has his strengths and weaknesses -- you've noted a number of their weaknesses (you forgot rampant cocktail hours, Cuba, Las Vegas, the track, denigration of women and minorities, cookie-cutterism, at least).

They had strengths too -- perserverance, wanting the best, joy in what they had or might gain. Willingness to work, obedience to authority.

187 posted on 07/30/2005 11:16:37 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Ma3lst0rm

"vain childish little thing."

This is how you view women who can't or choose not to breastfeed? Really classy. You sound like a real catch.


188 posted on 07/30/2005 11:24:15 AM PDT by knpriestap
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To: bvw
Thank you, it is nice to see like-minded people.

Just a small clarification. To assess the greatness of a generation, one has to look at the differences from other generations, and this is what I focused on.

They had strengths too -- perserverance, wanting the best, joy in what they had or might gain. Willingness to work, obedience to authority.

Perseverance was there, but it cannot be even compared to that of Pioneers. Wanting the best is the least common denominator of all American immigrants of all generations. Willingness to work --- granted, it was there --- is also a staple American ethic (which, incidentally, the "greatest" did NOT pass to their children to the same extent). And, obedience to authority is patently un-American (that is a trait of those who grow up under and get accustomed to socialism). Perhaps you meant "discipline," but then is it also not particular to that "greatest" generation.

The only distinct attribute I find is that they fought and won WWII, for which I am grateful. Buy even here, all important decisions were made by their parent that were in charge (it's the 40-70 yearl-olds that run the country).

189 posted on 07/30/2005 11:26:09 AM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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To: sfimom; Houmatt
Well it's not going to happen so just look away or go into seclusion yourself so you won't be offended.

bump

190 posted on 07/30/2005 11:28:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

LOL thanks!


191 posted on 07/30/2005 11:30:27 AM PDT by sfimom ('Mommy why did they kill her cause she couldn't talk?' (my daughter age8))
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To: Dante3; Augie76
Most cases of breast-feeding failure stem from medical intervention or wrong medical advice, mother's ignorance of proper technique (has to be learned-- is not instinctive), social pressures, or in rare cases a medical or physical problem.

Certainly adopted babies and those who are not thriving on mother's milk for one of the above reasons should be bottle fed.

Those who choose to bottle feed are doing their best to parent with their knowledge at the time and should not be judged. My husband's cousin did not breastfeed due to a thyroid problem. However, she and her husband cuddled and nurtured their baby (whether feeding or not) in a very close, loving, and natural way.

192 posted on 07/30/2005 11:33:28 AM PDT by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Well said!


193 posted on 07/30/2005 11:34:47 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Dante3
Name any minuses to successful breastfeeding to the baby. We are not discussing inconvenience to adult parents here. Be sure to cite your sources.
194 posted on 07/30/2005 11:37:54 AM PDT by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: Asphalt
Never mind officials voiding a $50 ticket for indecent exposure, or an explanation from county officials that a ranger who issued the citation to the breast-feeding mother was inexperienced.

It's tough to generate sympathy for some victims. Even when they are right.

195 posted on 07/30/2005 11:40:38 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Houmatt
[Totally exposed woman breastfeeding 3-year-old]

But what point can you make with such an extreme example?

First, yes, this is offensive.

Second, what about the guy with the enormous, catsup and egg yolk spotted beard, who sits next to you at the shelter and, uh, farts? What are we to conclude? Males with facial hair are prohibited from using the shelter? We'll not issue passes to guys who pass gases?

People need to show normal consideration and try not to give egregious offense. And we all need to abstain from sweeping judgments like "no breast-feeding" or "no men with beards" or -- well, as regards farts, I suppose I treat it the way I do stinky FReeper posts: I just get up and stroll away---

196 posted on 07/30/2005 11:41:12 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Bobbling... boggling ... oh heck, bring on the pie and root beer!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
You forgot that there really are far more serious issues.

So do you advocate dropping all State and local activities not related to the WOT?

You also forgot that once this becomes acceptable, a host of other ills will also become acceptable.

Horse hockey. Public breast feeding laws have been passed in a number of places. I know of no efforts to get these laws overturned. As a matter of fact, I never heard of any serious opposition to passing them in the first place. I've also never heard of any incidents where there has been a problem with the public over such activity.

The point is that it already is accepted. You'll have to get the laws changed if you don't like it. Good luck.

197 posted on 07/30/2005 11:41:34 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Tax-chick
People who demand apologies have lost my respect.

Thank you for posting that. It clarified my unease.

It totally reminded me of the "Sandmaggot" view of social interaction.

198 posted on 07/30/2005 11:42:01 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Sloth

Yes, and what is wrong with humiliating someone for making an idiotic mistake?

I side with the mom on this one. She's got a right to breast-feed.

Red6


199 posted on 07/30/2005 11:43:00 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Houmatt
But. Not. In. Public. Get it?

If you're modestly covered you're Not. In. Public. Get it?

200 posted on 07/30/2005 11:45:20 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Bobbling... boggling ... oh heck, bring on the pie and root beer!)
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