There may be a few - million. But they stay to themselves.
Posted on 07/29/2005 7:06:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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There may be a few - million. But they stay to themselves.
Just remember--no chickens! ;-D
Up there they would only be in the freezer section :)
There are geese in Greenland. The 1918 flu got there also.
Ping to thread. In light of your concern about you chickens.
Nice summary post. Thank you.
Nice to have you back.
Always liked the Puffins! Thought they looked like a fat man with a big nose when I was a kid.
The Puffin does that that look.
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News Updates:New Zealand's Fresh Supplies of Bird-flu Drug Exhausted: September 25th, 2005
("Fresh supplies of anti-bird flu drug Tamiflu were exhausted within two days of arriving in New Zealand as public demand escalates ahead of a feared global flu pandemic."
Drug companies battle over anti-flu medicine profits as shortage continues: September 25th, 2005
("SAN FRANCISCO Two drug companies are fighting for control of the growing profits from the anti-influenza drug Tamiflu, as health experts worry about shortages."
"The drug's sales have skyrocketed as Swiss-based vaccine supplier Roche failed to meet global demand. Meantime, The World Health Organization, worried about a potential bird flu epidemic, encourages governments to stockpile anti-viral drugs")
Flu fear prompts rush on medicines: September 25th, 2005
("Pharmacies are reporting a run on antiviral drugs as fears increase that the Asian bird flu is about to hit Australia.
Many chemists have run out of stock and have customers on waiting lists, and drug manufacturers said people should not expect unlimited extra supplies.
Most people want to buy Tamiflu, a prescription medicine that costs about $50 a dose.")
Govt moves to prevent bird flu outbreak: September 25th, 2005
("Rising cases of avian flu in Indonesia and the arrival of migratory birds in October have heightened warnings about an outbreak of the disease in the Philippines.")
Herbert: Get ready, the flu is coming: September 23rd, 2005
("As we grapple with the public health consequences of the nation's biggest natural disaster, health care providers are preparing for another major public health threat - the flu - with everyone hoping to avoid what happened last year: contamination at manufacturers, vaccine shortages, health officials scrambling to get vaccine, and finally, millions of flu shots going unused.
Three uncertainties - the variability of the virus (it changes every year), how severe the flu season might be, and the fluctuating supply and demand of vaccine - are what keep providers on edge and patients confused every year.")
I wonder if moving to someplace like Greenland would help? :)
I lived and worked there for five (5) years in 1951-56, that is a place I would NOT go back to unless you like to live in isolation!??!
"Can you buy these online??? Do you have a link??
Thanks"
To Purchase Essential Oils on line go here:
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I would recomend putting in a supply of
Oregano oil
Thyme oil
Thieves blend
Immupower blend
Raindrop Therapy Kit which comes with an instruction video.
These oils from Young Living are Grade A organic and pure, not adulterated with carriers or alcohol.
Jenny
Flu Article I wrote a couple years ago, many of the principles still apply. My personal focus these next few weeks as the mother of five children is simply to do whatever I can to strengthen immune systems. We have had blunt and open discussions about what we are going to do.
Number one: We are going to skip Halloween. No candy whatsoever.
Here is the article I wrote a couple weeks after all five of my kids were down with a killer flu here in Colorado.
Flu Natural Remedies
November 22, 2003
By, Jenny Marie Hatch
Flu Season hit early in Colorado and our family was compelled to take a break from life for the past few weeks and focus on getting well. We are not alone. Many, many people are suffering. The school called and said they were closing down two days early for thanksgiving break because so many are sick.
First some headlines:
DENVER – “When it comes to vaccinating children, Colorado is at the end of the list. Colorado is last in the country when it comes to vaccinating children for diseases like chicken pox, whooping cough and even the flu, according to state health officials.
"Currently, Colorado is last in the nation -- 50th out of 50 states for vaccinating 19-35 month olds fully," said Dr. Robert Brayden with Children's Hospital.”
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/health/2625601/detail.html
“The number of confirmed flu cases in Colorado continues to rise dramatically -- up more than 300 percent over last week. The state already has reported 693 cases, months before the flu season is expected to peak."
Doctors say it's because this year's flu vaccine does not exactly match the strain that's making people sick. Officials with the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention say the mismatch is serious and this flu season could be worse than usual. However, health experts are still recommending that people get flu shots because the vaccine can help SOME from getting sick J and avoid a potentially staggering flu season nationwide.” - and we wouldn’t want the pharmaceutical companies to lose any profits…..JMH. (Emphasis added by Jenny Hatch)
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/health/2645090/detail.html
If You Have The Flu...If you couldn't quite manage to prevent the flu bug, here are some steps to consider:
Ibuprofen, aspirin, or acetaminopen can help with a fever and other aches and pains. Acetaminopen (Tylenol) does not upset the stomach like aspirin or ibuprofen can.
Do not take antibiotics. They kill bacteria, but not the viruses that cause a cold or flu.
Do not smoke. This will only make it worse.
Use cough drops and gargle with warm salt water for a sore throat.
Keep a humidifier in your bedroom and take hot showers to clear a stuffed up nose.
For a red and raw nose, rub ointment on and around the area.
Expect three to four days for slight improvement, and up to 10 days for full recovery.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/health/1183447/detail.html
Colorado Teen Becomes Season's First Flu Fatality
POSTED: 11:45 a.m. MST November 21, 2003
DENVER – “A 15-year-old has become Colorado's first flu death of the season, 7NEWS reported Friday.”
Those are the local headlines from this past week in Colorado, and here is a little blurb on flu vaccine from a national lawyers website.
Influenza (Flu) Vaccine – “For years evidence has been mounting linking the Flu vaccine to serious neurological side effects. There have been occasional cases involving influenza vaccines causing Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) and other autoimmune conditions. Guillain-Barré syndrome is a disorder in which the body's immune system attacks part of the peripheral nervous system. The first symptoms of this disorder include varying degrees of weakness or tingling sensations in the legs. In many instances, the weakness and abnormal sensations spread to the arms and upper body. These symptoms can increase in intensity until the muscles cannot be used at all and the patient is almost totally paralyzed.
Additionally critics of the Flu Vaccine argue that the Flu vaccine might be irrelevant. These critics argue that the flu vaccine, for most healthy people, is (1) unnecessary; (2) ineffective; and (3) capable of causing serious neurological injuries. Most cases of so-called flu are not influenza at all, but rather cases involving rhinoviruses and other infections. Getting the flu, for most healthy individuals is not very serious.
Flu vaccines are admittedly viewed by many in the public health community as being a monetary vaccine, designed to reduce days lost from work.
The most serious indictment of flu vaccines, however, involves the fact that we are always receiving last year's virus to try to protect us from this year's flu. Flu viruses change each year, and sometimes the vaccines are prepared with viruses, which are not the same ones that we are trying to protect against. Despite such mismatches, manufacturers are always quick to sell their product, and recalls are unheard of. There is evidence that the manufacturers do not even conduct clinical trials for the vaccine each year, despite the fact that the components are changed.”
Click here for the full story
So, to sum up, we have a deadly flu virus causing serious illness all across Colorado, and potentially across the nation. The medicos admit the current vaccine is not the right strain and the potential for a widespread flu epidemic is high. We have the lawyers aware of the complications and side effects from the vaccines, prepared to give legal aid to those who have been permanently damaged by the vaccine. Antibiotics don’t work on viruses. Hospitalization, Antibiotics and Vaccines are about the only thing the medical profession has to offer to those who are sick. The over the counter cold remedies help with symptoms and can give relief, but these drugs can prove dangerous, causing a variety of other symptoms, especially in children. And because the over the counter remedies interfere with natural immunity, they tend to prolong the illness because the body is constantly being frustrated from purging the disease out of the various channels of detoxification. Fevers and Rashes are the immune systems first line of defense. Do we have some healthy alternative or happy medium between the doctors/pharmaceutical companies and lawyers/courts? And….
What is the parent of a sick child to do?
Before I share the alternative remedies that we have used these past weeks to heal our family, I would like to confess that I have a vested interest in this column beyond sharing some great information. If you decide to purchase some of the Essential oils I recommend, I will receive a kickback from the company for that referral. I was just going to write this article without mentioning the oils, but I know they have played a crucial role in keeping this illness under control and empowering our family to remain self sufficient. I honestly don’t care if you purchase the brand I use, even though they are some of the best oils on the market.
My five children have been very sick these past two weeks with a variety of symptoms; fever, rash, body aches, vomiting, diarrhea, headache, and general crabbiness. Now the only lingering symptom seems to be a very nasty cough. I am watching this lung action closely to be certain it does not develop into bronchitis or pneumonia. My children have complained long and loud about being kept home during this time, but I feel passionate about them not developing a secondary infection from this flu.
I have been stretched to my utmost capacity and at one point my fight or flight response kicked in and I was very tempted to run away from home. But I am the Mommy here, and it was/is my job to play nurse. Also, for some reason, I have not developed the flu. Although I have missed the most sleep, am nursing a baby, and have done the most physical work, I am still mostly symptom free. At this point, I am just exhausted. I believe this is because I have doctored myself right along with the children, and am constantly applying oils to them, and in the process have applied them to myself. I also have eaten my soup every day, several bowls a day, and have stayed well hydrated. If you as the caregiver become ill while caring for sick family members, you have my utmost respect and prayers in your behalf. Should this happen to you, I would highly encourage you to ask for help and have another healthy person in to help with care for the family. Ultimately this will be way cheaper than seeking emergency medical help, even if you have to fly someone in to help out.
Let me preface this information by saying, “I am not a doctor, I am not giving medical advice, I take no responsibility for any outcome you may experience if you decide to try some of these remedies”
I am simply sharing what I have done to help my children heal from a terrible flu in the hopes that some of my suggestions may prove helpful to others.
few months ago I began stocking up on essential oils. I put in a supply of therapeutic grade oils anticipating the cold and flu season. It has been exciting the past two weeks to pull out the oils time and time again to help relieve the various symptoms that have presented. Even with the oils, I have been barfed on twice, and spent a whole night fearing that should my son puke again, he would goob me. While the oils don’t stop symptoms, they do encourage the body to work more effectively, and sometimes even strengthen the symptoms. For example, my son was nauseated and had dry heaves and was unable to sleep. I put some peppermint oil on his feet and massaged the arches of his feet. As I massaged I could feel his heaves settle down, then all of a sudden he vomited, then he looked at me and said, “I feel much better” and was able to sleep.
Symptoms are good!
The allopathic model of medicine teaches us that symptoms are bad and must be suppressed at all costs. Over the years, I have come to believe that symptoms serve a purpose, especially with infectious disease. Most symptoms of flu are the body’s attempt to cleanse itself, and so I take a different approach in the sense that when a fever or a rash appears, I encourage the symptoms for as long as is necessary. Hippocrates said, “give me a fever and I can cure any disease!” My nine-year-old son had a 103 degree fever for five days. During this time, I focused on keeping him well hydrated, comfortable, and clean. I gave him upwards of four baths a day and helped him vigorously scrub his skin with an essential oil soap and a stiff brush. I also had him brush his teeth several times a day and keep his tongue clean by vigorous scrubbing with an essential oil toothpaste. I massaged his feet over and over again with pure oregano and thyme oils diluted with olive oil. I kept him warm with a hot water bottle/blankets when he would start shivering with chills.
Oils of Gladness!
At one point, when I perceived he was the sickest, I gave him a Raindrop Therapy massage treatment. This is a powerful massage technique that can be used by anyone in the home. I purchased the kit –which comes with an instructional video – from Young Living Essential Oils. www.youngliving.org or 800-371-2928 - $101.00 (If you would like to buy this fabulous kit just use my sponsor number #29526 to become a preferred customer.)
After the Raindrop, I observed that my children slept better and were not in as much pain. I gave three of the children this massage.
My son Jeff, who was the sickest of them all, asked for and received a priesthood blessing from his Father and another elder from our church.
I kept a bed made up on the floor of our living room for whoever was sickest that day to lie down on. This made things easier for me, as I was able to tend to them while I worked in the kitchen and did laundry. Our bathrooms are all on the second floor and so once in a while I had to help a sick child up the stairs to go potty, or help with a bath. During the worst of the fevers, I noticed them becoming noise sensitive (A sign of magnesium deficiency), and I would have them sleep in my bedroom, and I encouraged the other children to speak quietly. I also fed them shakes that contained a liquid calcium/magnesium supplement to help with the noise sensitivity.
To help with hydration, I gave all of the children home made juice Popsicles and echinacea tea mixed with grape juice. I also served garlic soup every day. Here is my own recipe for this powerhouse of a soup.
GARLIC SOUP
In a soup pot sauté one chopped onion with five cloves of crushed garlic in three tablespoons of olive oil. Add in 1 tsp sea salt. Peel and chop five potatoes, five carrots, three large chopped celery stalks, and one bunch of chopped fennel. Add the vegetables to the onion and garlic when the onions are translucent. Cover the vegetables with water and bring to a boil. Then simmer while you make the Stock water and brown rice.
POTASSIUM/CALCIUM BROTH/VEGETABLE STOCK
Hard boil two quarts of water with:
1 tsp sea salt
1 tsp flax seed
½ C. Oat Straw Tea
½ C. Oatmeal
The potato and carrot peelings
10 additional cloves of chopped garlic
1 thumb size piece of diced fresh ginger
Hard boil for twenty minutes, then strain and add to the vegetable soup pot.
BROWN BASMATI RICE
In a third saucepan, cook up one cup of brown basmati rice in three cups of water. In a third saucepan, cook up one cup of brown basmati rice in three cups of water.
GARLIC TOAST
Serve the soup with garlic toast. Sliced whole wheat bread brushed with Garlic butter. Heat 3 tablespoons of butter with one clove of crushed garlic, brush on toast, then broil for a minute or two. Serve with the soup. If you can get your child to eat it, you can also add one drop of thyme and one drop of oregano oil to the garlic butter and brush that on the toast. Whenever I did this, my children refused to eat it. However, I read about a woman who used this essential oil toast to treat whooping cough with great success!
I made this soup three times in the past week. With leftovers, my children had plenty of anti-viral food to eat when they were hungry. If they were not eating, I simply served them the potassium/calcium broth. Each child had a few days of natural fasting when they just weren’t hungry. This was generally during the worst of the fever. I trust this symptom in children especially. But carefully watch for signs of dehydration while they forego food. Dehydration shows up with a sunken look to the face, pinched skin, and lack of urination. The child may also complain of bladder pain from lack of liquid moving through the urinary tract. On the worst days most of the children were happy to eat a few pieces of fruit or suck on a Popsicle and I was constantly offering them water.
COLON HYDRATION
I never felt the need to do this, but was prepared to if necessary. I had read that before the advent of the IV, our ancestors used to use the colon to re-hydrate a sick person. They would gently implant water into the colon using a piece of tubing to help the body to be better hydrated and to flush debris from the colon. I am grateful I never felt the need to do this procedure with my kids, but I would have done that first over going to the emergency room for help with re-hydration. (I do think it is appropriate to seek medical aid for hydration issues, especially with pregnant women and babies) but again, I would first try the colon hydration before exposing myself, or my children, to the germs in the hospital while they were in a weakened condition. To do this, simply purchase a child size enema bulb and fill it with warm water and carefully squeeze the bottle of water into the rectum. It is ideal to do this in the bathtub.
At no time in the past days did I administer any prescription or over the counter flu or cold medicines. (OK, my husband did take some Nyquil one night to help him sleep when he had not slept in three days). But we gave no drugs to the children.
Through quiet, diligent effort we have weathered this horrible, painful, disease. I am confident that all five children have now been effectively immunized naturally from the real current flu virus that is making everyone sick. This is natural immunity at its best! It is nothing to be frightened of. Common sense measures and simple effective cleansing techniques will restore health! And it is way more comforting to me than having them shot up with a synthetic, preserved, cultured, mercury laden flu “virus” that the scientists GUESSED would be the correct strain for the year, and then still have them get the live virus that is running around town, perhaps with their immune systems hindered in the ability to effectively deal with that live virus because they had the flu shot! I believe the public has truly been propagandized into believing the lies from the pharmaceutical companies when it comes to infectious disease. Hopefully with consumer awareness, the Center for Disease Control and the national, state, and local health departments will at some point be held accountable and the truth exposed in this whole vaccine scam. Do thousands of people need to die of a flu virus once again this year before the whole flu shot scandal is exposed? Money mongering at the expense of the health and well being of citizens should be a crime. And the doctors, hospitals, news agencies, and health community should be ashamed of itself for shoving these toxic chemicals on the innocent. As John Robbins has stated, “the medical profession will get off its pedestal, when we get off our knees!” Have some confidence and take care of yourself and your family!
A few final tips
(These are a ton of additional work, but very important!)
Several times in the past days I have changed all of the bedding, especially the pillowcases, and washed them well in hot water and then sprinkled all of the bedding with essential oils. I also bundled the children up and took them outside for fresh air and sunshine for a few minutes most days. (Some days I could not get certain kids out the door because they were too dizzy). While we were outside, I opened all of the doors and windows and aired out the house. With all of the coughing, sweaty fevers, and mucous flowing, I believe these steps are very important in speeding healing.
I served lots of fresh fruit; Watermelon, Honeydew melon, red seedless grapes, apple and pear slices. The children tended to eat the fresh fruit more than any other food I served. This helps with cleansing the bowel and hydration issues.
I kept the sickest children close to me during the night. This helped me to tune in to them quickly when they were overcome with fever, nausea, or diarrhea. I could quickly get them into the bathroom, and I believe averted a few messes, by helping them to the toilet instead of having to clean up toxic messy beds.
I also deep cleaned the bathrooms more than usual during the worst of the illness. Using Shaklee’s Basic G, which is powerful enough to kill the aids virus, helped me to feel confident that we were keeping up with the germs. I had my daughters help to wipe down all surfaces in our home with an essential oil spray called Thieves, which is antiviral.
When my 13-month-old son was at his worst with glassy eyed fever, lethargic, (scary in a baby!) I went to extremes to try to get him to laugh. I took his hand and had him touch my nose – then I exploded with loud sounds, hiccupping and sneezing and laughing whenever he touched my nose. At first he just smiled at silly Mom, but soon he was laughing really hard as I continued to burst each time he touched my nose. Pretty soon, he was completely changed in his demeanor, and I could tell that flooding his system with happy endorphins really helped.
When my children started fighting and complaining, I knew we were getting better. The first time my eleven year old daughter punched her brother and told me if I made her eat one more bowl of soup she was going to scream, I knew we had beat this flu.
I don’t claim that this list is complete, and I trust that you will be guided to know what is best for your family, even if that includes traditional medical care. But I hope and pray that you can weather this storm of a nasty cold and flu season and come out of it happy, healthy, and truly immunized from getting the same virus again!
Also, It will be important for families who are expecting babies this year to know some basics about Emergency Childbirth. No one is going to want to give birth in a hospital over run with deadly flu patients.
Here is a link to an article I wrote on Emergency Childbirth:
http://www.naturalfamilyco.com/articles/emergencychildbirth_print.html
Thanks for starting this thread. I don't believe in vaccinations or antibiotics and have spent years getting educated on alternative healing. I believe Essential Oils are the key to wellness in this age of deadly antibiotic resistant bacteria and viruses.
Jenny
Actually, your statement is not entirely factual. Many herbs continue to have potency even after cooking. Most Chinese herb formulas and many Ayurvedic ones are traditionally boiled until the liquid is reduced. Of course, they have to be in a covered pot. It depends on what part of the plant you're using as well. Modern Chinese formulas are often freeze dried as well.
BTW, elderberries can be purchased in bulk, dried from Starwest Botanicals for a modest price. That's where I get a lot of my herbs. I've posted the info on this thread before, but here it is again for those who missed it:
1-800-800-4372.
You can ask for their catalog. They also have two extensive lines of essential oils, more reasonably priced than the Young Living ones. I have used Starwest oils for years and they are good quality. It's not hard to qualify for a wholesale discount.
Thanks for posting the above - haven't had time to read it all, but will.
Thanks, lj, for that correction.
danamco, the elderberry preparation Sambucol was tested in double-blind research. It is effective against cold and flu viruses. Therapeutic levels of chemical present in elderberry juice are NOT affected by processing, including simmering (boiling at a low temperature).
The pertinent components remain unaffected by the processing, and are stable in storage.
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