Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat
Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)
But all these threads confuse me. Maybe you could introduce each one with a little summary and update or something.
When asked if the car could have passed on May 30th, she said no, as these events transpired after her neighbors left the island in early June.
was = we
I've read most of the thread but ... have they begun to searchthe landfill yet?
Wonder why. Maybe Greta will discuss it tonight.
Hmm, unless the search at the pond was another wild goose chase, to deflect interest in the landfill.
Notice the woman (witness)was columbian. Wonder if she's an illegal? They have an awful problem with illegals from columbia there. It wouldn't take much to put some fear into her.
Tim Miller, [per a NEW EYEWITNESS], on Abrams.
Well if they find the body it will be credible..
I think it's a little weird these witnesses are coming forward with such detailed information! I know they were supposedly scared.. but sheesh.. right down to the red jeep watching...
See 240 & 242.
Yes, they are at the landfill. There was some video I just saw on msnbc, they're at the landfill.
I think they were there yesterday too, but we just didn't hear this specific data before that Tim M. just revealed.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba Police and a volunteer group from Texas searched an Aruban landfill today in search of clues to the fate of missing Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway.
Director Tim Miller of Dickinson, Texas-based Texas EquuSearch (EHK'-wah-serch) says crews used a tractor, a bulldozer and infrared gear at the landfall on the southern part of the island.
He says -- "This could be a six-hour project or six days."
An Aruban police spokesman declines to say what prompted the search or give any further details.
The landfill is on the opposite side of the island from where Holloway disappeared May 30.
Also today, crews using water pumps got close to completely draining a pond near the Marriott hotel. That's where a witness said he saw three young men the night Holloway disappeared. Among the three is a Dutch youth who's been detained in the case.
That could be. I was just thinking that her clothes are missing, and Joran would not want to keep them in the condo (if that is, in fact, were they took her). The pond is the easiest place to dump them.
Hey bolta - If Shango is legitimate shouldn't there be more fear of discovery each day? Or, is the impetus to discredit Van der Stratten so great that s/he would continue to risk it.
Someone mentioned island politics. When are the elections? Who wants the jobs? Is Van der Stratten an elected official, or appointed by the Hague? I think Shango is in The Netherlands, not the USA.
Last night TJ or Tim said something about the landfill. He made it sound like anyone had free access to the fill at anytime around the time Natalee came up missing. (not sure if it started being guarded at some point later on, but that is the way he made it sound.)
It sounds to me like the landfill was not supervised (guarded)at the time and that it is not gated.
You're right about the illegal, that was mentioned last night by Jossy.
He said one of the witnesses was illegal, or maybe he just said immigrant, but the implication was that this person was nervous about contacting the polis.
On that first night/early AM, they mentioned to LE the security guards at the HI....LE went straight to their homes and arrested them.
" They caused a problem for the bigger guys because Beth won't leave without her daughter."
I agree. They assumed the family would have bought the BS story about the Secuity Guards and that would have been the end of story. If this had happened to an average family without any support from friends, family and the media, the scapegoats would have taken the fall - and that would have been the end of the story.
Thank you. I caught only part of Tim on Abrams and it's a long way to Greta. :)
Ah, okay.
Well, it could just be that they went there at a time they knew it would not be busy, end of the workday or whatever, or close to supper time, or wait -- they siesta there on Aruba, don't they?, and wouldn't have much chance of being observed.
Luckily, it sounds like someone did observe them.
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