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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; everyoneschild; greta; joran; kalpoes; keystonekops; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; richwhitepretty; satish; sybil; twitty; womensissue
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To: maggief; Palladin

mean = men (sorry)


261 posted on 07/29/2005 3:41:17 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative
It will take months for them to dig through this landfill.

It might not take that long. If they guy was close enough to see breasts, he must have a pretty good idea of the general area. Also, last night I think it was one of the other TES guys who said that the body was next to something large that was also in the landfill. He said they would know they were getting close when they saw that large item, or if they didn't see it, they would move to a different location.

262 posted on 07/29/2005 3:43:05 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: stlnative

Well, if they can pinpoint the area from the witness's testimony, it should really cut down on the time it takes.

They didn't have a witness for Lori Hacking, at that landfill, so they had to search a very large area.

This might go a lot faster.


263 posted on 07/29/2005 3:43:16 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell

You know she may have been at the VDS's all this time, just like Beth suspected the night she was outside the VDS home.


264 posted on 07/29/2005 3:43:24 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: gubamyster; texasbluebell

That is true but you have nearly 2 months of garbage on top of her. They will have to dig very slow.


265 posted on 07/29/2005 3:44:51 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Dolphy
I need more information to make this credible.

You and me both. Broad daylight, with someone watching you (if he could see them, then they could see him), is not exactly the best time to get rid of a dead body! ROFLMBO

That doesn't pass the smell test at all. imo

266 posted on 07/29/2005 3:44:54 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: stlnative

Unbelieveable..... I really hope things are finally breaking.


267 posted on 07/29/2005 3:44:55 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: bolta_lightnin; maggief
Ask the men who play dice and "roll" (she was at the Allegro)

Now was their not talk out there that Natalee met with and or had dinner with someone else that night? Is that rumor or has that been confirmed? Did Beth actually mention something regarding this?

268 posted on 07/29/2005 3:45:00 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: texasbluebell

Well, now we know they are looking for her clothes in the pond. And her in the landfill.


269 posted on 07/29/2005 3:45:30 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: truthluva

Question: Was the Allegro undergoing renovations at the time that Natalee disappeared? Was it
even open at that time?

Yes, under renovation but the Casino and I'm not sure what (if anything) else remain open. Closed for construction thru December


270 posted on 07/29/2005 3:46:04 PM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: texasbluebell
this is new, isn't it?

Yeh, first time I heard of this.

Funnily enough, since the rewards have been offered.....people are coming out of the woodwork. Who's to dispute what they're saying?

Sure seems odd anyone would be burying a body in broad daylight in an open landfill.

Wasn't the trio in or being questioned by LE around that Wednesday? To say the least, they knew by then, LE was hot on their trail.

What say you?

271 posted on 07/29/2005 3:48:08 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: MAWG

MAWG, I promised to ping you to the big stuff. Pinging you to posts 240 & 242.


272 posted on 07/29/2005 3:48:30 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: stlnative

Oh my gosh, yes, I wonder where she was for those 2 days.

Beth's instinct may very well have been right on target.

Yes, true, about 2 months of garbage since then. I wonder if any of the equipment that TES has brought in will help.

Or maybe that technology that Greta featured on her show last night, the ground-penetrating radar, which shows bodies up to 10 feet down in the ground. Not sure it works in a landfill, maybe someone knows.


273 posted on 07/29/2005 3:51:04 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: bolta_lightnin

"Yes, under renovation but the Casino and I'm not sure what (if anything) else remain open. Closed for construction thru December"

How close is the Wyndham to the Allegro?? Do you know?


274 posted on 07/29/2005 3:51:57 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: the Deejay

Ladygirl! I went flying across the house and I was too late! I got there when they started talking about LaToyia.

Who has been saying to go to the landfill...bolta_lightnin?


275 posted on 07/29/2005 3:53:31 PM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Andy'smom; ruoflaw; KylaStarr; sarasota; Jaded; cyborg; kcvl; TAquinas; maggief; ...
From Rhiel World:

Witness Reports Confusing In Natalee Holloway Investigation

Reports suggest that CNN has made contact with what was thought to be a key witness brought forward by Twitty/Holloway family private investigator, T.J. Ward. Ward is a private investigator with the firm Investigative Consultants International out of Georgia.

He was recently praised and quoted extensively at Scared Monkeys from a recent Larry King appearance:

And I went door-to-door today in the racquet ball club and was able to locate another witness, who described the vehicle in question, owned by the Kalpoe boys, and they were able to tell me and describe, clearly, the car in question, being in the area and in the racquet club, around the homes, about six weeks ago, which was estimate somewhere after the 29th and 30th of May.

After she gave me a description, I went and obtained a picture of the car that was obtained by law enforcement, on the 29th of May and 30th, and brought the picture back to her.

And she was able to describe the car to a “t.” And what was interesting that stuck out was the taillights — who had custom taillights on it with clear covers over red lights. And not only did she describe those taillights, but she described it all the way down to the wheels of the silver Honda Accord, which very may well be the vehicle in question ...

Now sources suggest the witness, a Columbian woman, was later questioned by police, who stated she never did identify the car of Deepak Kalpoe. Also, the woman apparently only speaks Spanish. Her report to Ward is said to have come via a local man who then passed the story along to the P.I.

She is said to have spotted an unidentified car near her home approximately six weeks ago. As she's been looking after the home of a neighbor, currently off the island - she had noticed one car driving slowly through the area while on her way home from a minimarket.

Realizing there was an expensive Harley inside the garage of the neighbor's home, she feared someone may be trying to steal it. Although it was daylight, she was unable to identify the car but did notice its dark tinted windows. When asked, she thought the car might have been Blue in color. Now it's said she told CNN today the car may have actually been green.

She next spotted a suspicious vehicle one night approximately 2 - 3 days later but does not know if it was the same car. The car didn't stop but she remained concerned for the neighbor's Harley. According to sources, when supposedly questioned earlier on the issue pursuant to the Holloway Investigation, she thought she may have been being questioned as regards a possible robbery.

It's also alleged that she now claims not to have told investigator Ward she saw the Kalpoe car. Still later that same night, she said it had to be after midnight but she wasn’t sure, she saw yet another car slowly passing by; she noticed that the tail lights were clear as as it passed.

As the woman lives with two small children in a house on a cul-de-sac, she is said to be somewhat nervous as regards automobile traffic in general because much of the area is still under construction. When asked if the car could have passed on May 30th, she said no, as these events transpired after her neighbors left the island in early June.

It's unclear why conflicting reports are coming from the island in this regard.

276 posted on 07/29/2005 3:53:44 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: CheneyChick

So do I CC!


277 posted on 07/29/2005 3:54:35 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: monkeywrench

" Oh, my. The red jeep. Stinkin' paulus! Watching...""

Oooohhh.. makes me sick. That creep, Paulus!!!


278 posted on 07/29/2005 3:55:34 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: the Deejay

Well, at that point, that Wednesday, were the 2 security guards already in custody?

I don't remember, will have to find the timeline. No idea about this. The 3 "boys" and P may have had plenty of time to run around and take care of business.

As for this taking place in daylight, it's possible that there is maybe a specific entrance to the landfill? Maybe there was someone guarding the entrance, not letting anyone in, or could very well be at the end of the day, and the workers had finished hauling refuse.

Or perhaps it was just not a drop-off day there for the trucks to deliver trash. I wonder when trash-day is on Aruba? It may not be Wednesday, and they knew they were not being observed.


279 posted on 07/29/2005 3:55:36 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: TexKat

The picture was saw of Deepak's car did not have tinted windows. This is not his car that is being described here.


280 posted on 07/29/2005 3:57:32 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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