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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; everyoneschild; greta; joran; kalpoes; keystonekops; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; richwhitepretty; satish; sybil; twitty; womensissue
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To: TexKat
OK, I think this case is a farce and an insult and I think those freakin Dutch people, that woman who yapped about "America pushing us around" and the husband/father who said, "no body, no crime" are scumbags and probably guilty of something really treacherous.

But all these threads confuse me. Maybe you could introduce each one with a little summary and update or something.

281 posted on 07/29/2005 3:57:56 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: TexKat

When asked if the car could have passed on May 30th, she said no, as these events transpired after her neighbors left the island in early June.


282 posted on 07/29/2005 3:57:57 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: truthluva

was = we


283 posted on 07/29/2005 3:58:23 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: texasbluebell

I've read most of the thread but ... have they begun to searchthe landfill yet?


284 posted on 07/29/2005 3:58:31 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Be a Good Mullah Now ...)
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To: Dante3

Wonder why. Maybe Greta will discuss it tonight.


285 posted on 07/29/2005 3:58:37 PM PDT by stopem
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To: theophilusscribe

Hmm, unless the search at the pond was another wild goose chase, to deflect interest in the landfill.


286 posted on 07/29/2005 3:58:44 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell
Or paulus had paid somebody at the dump off.

Notice the woman (witness)was columbian. Wonder if she's an illegal? They have an awful problem with illegals from columbia there. It wouldn't take much to put some fear into her.

287 posted on 07/29/2005 3:58:58 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Froufrou
Who has been saying to go to the landfill...

Tim Miller, [per a NEW EYEWITNESS], on Abrams.

288 posted on 07/29/2005 3:59:20 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Dolphy

Well if they find the body it will be credible..

I think it's a little weird these witnesses are coming forward with such detailed information! I know they were supposedly scared.. but sheesh.. right down to the red jeep watching...


289 posted on 07/29/2005 3:59:51 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: Froufrou

See 240 & 242.


290 posted on 07/29/2005 4:00:25 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: BunnySlippers

Yes, they are at the landfill. There was some video I just saw on msnbc, they're at the landfill.

I think they were there yesterday too, but we just didn't hear this specific data before that Tim M. just revealed.


291 posted on 07/29/2005 4:00:27 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: BunnySlippers; Andy'smom; ruoflaw; KylaStarr; sarasota; Jaded; cyborg; kcvl; TAquinas; maggief; ...
Crews dig in Aruba landfill in search for missing Alabama teen

ORANJESTAD, Aruba Police and a volunteer group from Texas searched an Aruban landfill today in search of clues to the fate of missing Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway.

Director Tim Miller of Dickinson, Texas-based Texas EquuSearch (EHK'-wah-serch) says crews used a tractor, a bulldozer and infrared gear at the landfall on the southern part of the island.

He says -- "This could be a six-hour project or six days."

An Aruban police spokesman declines to say what prompted the search or give any further details.

The landfill is on the opposite side of the island from where Holloway disappeared May 30.

Also today, crews using water pumps got close to completely draining a pond near the Marriott hotel. That's where a witness said he saw three young men the night Holloway disappeared. Among the three is a Dutch youth who's been detained in the case.

292 posted on 07/29/2005 4:00:49 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: texasbluebell

That could be. I was just thinking that her clothes are missing, and Joran would not want to keep them in the condo (if that is, in fact, were they took her). The pond is the easiest place to dump them.


293 posted on 07/29/2005 4:01:00 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: bolta_lightnin

Hey bolta - If Shango is legitimate shouldn't there be more fear of discovery each day? Or, is the impetus to discredit Van der Stratten so great that s/he would continue to risk it.

Someone mentioned island politics. When are the elections? Who wants the jobs? Is Van der Stratten an elected official, or appointed by the Hague? I think Shango is in The Netherlands, not the USA.


294 posted on 07/29/2005 4:01:49 PM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: texasbluebell

Last night TJ or Tim said something about the landfill. He made it sound like anyone had free access to the fill at anytime around the time Natalee came up missing. (not sure if it started being guarded at some point later on, but that is the way he made it sound.)

It sounds to me like the landfill was not supervised (guarded)at the time and that it is not gated.


295 posted on 07/29/2005 4:01:56 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: monkeywrench

You're right about the illegal, that was mentioned last night by Jossy.

He said one of the witnesses was illegal, or maybe he just said immigrant, but the implication was that this person was nervous about contacting the polis.


296 posted on 07/29/2005 4:02:16 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell
Yes, I think the security guards were in jail very early and in jail for 13(?)days. IIRC.

On that first night/early AM, they mentioned to LE the security guards at the HI....LE went straight to their homes and arrested them.

297 posted on 07/29/2005 4:03:47 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: bolta_lightnin

" They caused a problem for the bigger guys because Beth won't leave without her daughter."

I agree. They assumed the family would have bought the BS story about the Secuity Guards and that would have been the end of story. If this had happened to an average family without any support from friends, family and the media, the scapegoats would have taken the fall - and that would have been the end of the story.


298 posted on 07/29/2005 4:03:50 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: texasbluebell

Thank you. I caught only part of Tim on Abrams and it's a long way to Greta. :)


299 posted on 07/29/2005 4:04:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Be a Good Mullah Now ...)
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To: stlnative

Ah, okay.

Well, it could just be that they went there at a time they knew it would not be busy, end of the workday or whatever, or close to supper time, or wait -- they siesta there on Aruba, don't they?, and wouldn't have much chance of being observed.

Luckily, it sounds like someone did observe them.


300 posted on 07/29/2005 4:04:31 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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