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Muslim Mind on Fire
Middle East Times ^ | Youssef Ibrahim

Posted on 07/28/2005 2:20:29 PM PDT by Trimegistus

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To: OK
It is the 10 to 20 percent of true believers who intimidate and force the others into it.

Well 10 to 20 percent of a population is more than enough to bring long-term death and misery to a whole society -- especially if the remaining population is apathetic or worse.

I'm not reassured when I hear, "it's only a small percentage of Muslims who support terrorism." It only takes a small percentage, especially when many of the rest are craven fence-sitters.

21 posted on 07/28/2005 4:28:50 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Alouette; SJackson

See reply 18. Check out the Little Green Football comments.


22 posted on 07/28/2005 4:30:01 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Trimegistus
"I fear those naïve Muslims who think that they are beating the West have now achieved their worst crime of all. The West is now going to war against not only Muslims, but also, sadly, Islam as a religion.

This guy sounds like a shill for the terrorists...

It's NOT Muslims we're after, or even Islam --- but their lunatic fringe which too many Muslims refuse to admit exist and won't deal with....

If "Muslims" can't destroy the cockroaches in their homes -- others will be forced to do it, by destroying the home..

It's still their call, and perhaps their last opportunity to avoid extinction.

Semper Fi

23 posted on 07/28/2005 4:33:59 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
Which preacher told this guy this is Islam?

A better question would be, "Which preacher told this guy this isn't Islam?"

24 posted on 07/28/2005 4:38:19 PM PDT by untenured (http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com)
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To: Trimegistus

Here is one that "gets it". "It" is going to get a whole lot worse for jihadi's. And for any other mo'. They will have something to whine about after the Dutch, British, and Germans coordinate the pogrom. With US financial aid.


25 posted on 07/28/2005 4:38:31 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocity of 11 Sept.)
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To: OK
The fact is that most Muslims don't want to live under Sharia even if they believe that it is what Muhammad would want for them. It is the 10 to 20 percent of true believers who intimidate and force the others into it.

Well that's about 250 million crazy Islamic fanatical murderers. Sounds like a major war against civilization to me.

26 posted on 07/28/2005 4:47:40 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Praise be to the LORD, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle.)
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To: Trimegistus
THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON ISLAM

THIS IS NOT FROM AL-QAEDA!

THIS IS JUST A BIT OF WHAT ALL MUSLIMS, INCLUDING SO-CALLED MODERATES, SIGN UP FOR WHEN THEY SAY THE BISMALLAH, "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET"!

KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
27 posted on 07/28/2005 4:57:21 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: usurper

A wind age, A wolf age
Shields will be cloven;
A sword age, A spear age
before the worlds ruin.

The Elder Edda


28 posted on 07/28/2005 6:07:20 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (Who are the sons of Surt, and whence do they come?)
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To: All
Time has become for the big Western vengeance.

One of the posters over on Little Green Footballs was musing about how "big Western vengenace" seems to invite a "Spaghetti Western" soundtrack. Me, I think it has a "All Your Base" quality about it.

It's a solid tagline, at the very least.

29 posted on 07/28/2005 7:07:46 PM PDT by Cloud William (Liberals are the crabgrass in the lawn of life.)
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Pinging jihadis.


30 posted on 07/29/2005 7:56:35 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: OK

>>The fact is that most Muslims don't want to live under Sharia even if they believe that it is what Muhammad would want for them. It is the 10 to 20 percent of true believers who intimidate and force the others into it.

Bingo. The "MTV bomb" is one of the best weapons we have. We should be giving every member of the new Iraqi army and security forces free subscriptions to Maxim.


31 posted on 07/30/2005 2:28:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank) (NRA)
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To: river rat

I am sick of hearing about 'It's not Muslims or Islam we are after but their lunatic fringe'...the lunatic fringe are living by the teachings of Islam. Islam created them. They are not abusing Islam but adhering to the teachings of Islam and killing the infidel. There is no religion of peace...no moderate Muslims. These so called moderates merely do not practice the tenets of their faith (Jihad) yet. You get a revival in Christian churches, people give up drinking/drugs, help the poor, attend/work in the church, prison ministry etc; they try to follow the teachings of Christ. You get a revival in the Muslim mosque...you get convert or kill the infidel, beat your wife, kill your daughters if they dishonor you by being raped perhaps, and lets not forget 'marrying' nine year old girsl (Mohammad did)- in short you get violence and misery. Jihadist do not dishonor Islam...they are Islam-true Islam.


32 posted on 07/30/2005 6:03:46 AM PDT by bronxboy (Blessed to live in the USA)
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To: 537cant be wrong

Yamamoto it was, who went to college in the US i believe and, like most of the Japanese Naval officers was much saner than the Army generals like Tojo that admired Hitler and Mussolini...


33 posted on 07/30/2005 6:13:42 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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