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American Muslim Scholars Call Terrorism a Violation of Islamic Teaching
AP ^ | AP-ES-07-28-05 1024EDT

Posted on 07/28/2005 9:22:30 AM PDT by TheOtherOne

American Muslim Scholars Call Terrorism a Violation of Islamic Teaching

By Rachel Zoll The Associated Press
Published: Jul 28, 2005 American Muslim scholars who interpret religious law for their community issued an edict Thursday condemning terrorism against civilians in response to the wave of deadly attacks in Britain and other countries.

In the statement, called a fatwa, the 18-member Fiqh Council of North America wrote that people who commit terrorism in the name of Islam were "criminals, not 'martyrs.'"

"There is no justification in Islam for extremism or terrorism," the scholars wrote. "Targeting civilians' life and property through suicide bombings or any other method of attack is haram - or forbidden."

Many Muslim leaders overseas have issued similar condemnations in recent weeks, but some have left an opening for violence to be used. British Muslim leaders who denounced the July 7 attacks in London said suicide bombings could still be justified against an occupying power.

The U.S. fatwa did not specifically address suicide bombings in a war, but the scholars barred Muslims from helping anyone "involved in any act of terrorism or violence." The council also declared that Muslims were obligated to help law enforcement officials protect civilians.

"It is the civic and religious duty of Muslims to cooperate with law enforcement authorities," according to the Fiqh Council. The term "fiqh" refers to Islamic legal issues and understanding the faith's religious law.

Islam has no central authority and the council serves an advisory role for American Muslims, who could number as high as 6 million. But some question whether the panel's statements would sway extremists.

Leaders of major American Muslim organizations have taken pains since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to condemn terrorism and deny any religious justification for it. They have intensified their efforts following the July 7 bombings in London and the botched attacks two weeks later. Other terrorist attacks have occurred in Egypt and Israel in recent weeks, along with continued bombings in Iraq.

The Muslim Public Affairs Council, an advocacy group based in Los Angeles, started the "National Anti-Terrorism Campaign" last year, urging Muslims to monitor their own communities, speak out more boldly against violence and work with law enforcement officials.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington-based civil rights organization, is running a TV ad and a petition-drive called "Not in the Name of Islam," which repudiates terrorism. In New York and other cities, mosque leaders have joined advisory committees created by the FBI to build relations between law enforcement and their local communities.

"We pray for the defeat of extremism and terrorism," the scholars wrote. "We pray for the safety and security of our country, the United States, and its people. We pray for the safety and security of all inhabitants of our planet."

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On the Net:

Council on American-Islamic Relations: http://www.cair-net.org.

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To: TheOtherOne
" . . . . or any other method of attack is haram - or forbidden.""

Well, there it is. The qualifying word. They don't 'attack,' they are just defending themselves against the encroaching infidels. And of course, when you are defending yourself, you just have to kill everybody in sight lest there be an attacking infidel in the crowd disguised as a pre-teen, baby, or woman -- even if you have to fly across the continent looking for a crowd of attackers to defend yourself against.

Sorry, Abdul. No sale.

81 posted on 07/28/2005 11:57:49 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: TheOtherOne

This needs to be heard from each and every Moslem individually. 1.2 billion such statements. Of course, they are allowed to lie to infidels, so take it with a grain of salt when it happens.


82 posted on 07/28/2005 11:59:48 AM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: Zechariah_8_13
"They're banking on the fact that few "infidels" have actually read the Koran."

Check my new tag.....

83 posted on 07/28/2005 12:05:14 PM PDT by Eastbound ('Read the Koran?? Hey, when I want fairy tales, I'll do Aesop!')
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To: weegee

The koran says a lot of weird and hateful things. If ever there was such a thing as a primer for lunatics this is it.

In the same class as Mao's "Little Red Book" and Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and Lenin's "What is to be Done", "The Commie Manifesto" ad nauseum.


84 posted on 07/28/2005 12:07:59 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: TheOtherOne

From Jihad Watch:

This document means nothing. It can mean nothing. It was issued to satisfy, or at least in the hope of satisfying, the growing suspicion of non-Muslims, a suspicion that might lead, quite dangerously, to too many Infidels learning about Islam in too great detail, and might even begin to learn about taqiyya and kitman and all the rhetorical tricks (selective quotation, tu-quoque, insistence that the Qur'an alone matters and the Hadith and Sira do not, insistence that the principles of Qur'anic interpretation -- such as naskh or abrogation) that are routinely used by that small army of apologists for Islam, both Muslim and non-Muslim, who are abroad in the land.

That CAIR was chosen to issue it, after the statements made in the past by a number of people who have been closely associated with it, even served as high officials in the organization, tells us all we need to know.

Is Jihad abandoned? Is the desire to turn this country into a Muslim country abandoned, or is the goal of having Islam dominate, and Muslims rule, still very much the animating impulse of Muslims here, there, and everywhere.

This is a pitiful document, but not so pitiful that it will not be greeted with delight by the editorial writers of The New Duranty Times and The Bandar Beacon. So be it.

The dogs bark. The caravan -- headed straight to the bookstore to buy books by Ibn Warraq, Robert Spencer, Bat Ye'or, and others -- moves on.


85 posted on 07/28/2005 12:11:08 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: TheOtherOne

Well, it's a start, although I wonder if this is going to have any practical effect, other than getting a couple of these guys' on some Islamonazi hit lists.

Or maybe it's just taqqiya. Or is that taqiyya? Or tapioca?

}:-)4


86 posted on 07/28/2005 12:16:58 PM PDT by Moose4 (Newsflash: It's the South. In the summer. IT GETS HOT. DEAL WITH IT.)
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To: TheOtherOne
Oh YEAH???

I'll never believe their "We're peaceful" crap...even if it were in ARABIC!

Too much has happened...they are a Cancer on the anus of the Earth!

87 posted on 07/28/2005 12:23:44 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: BlackjackPershing

yup , muzzie LIARS want a Holy War , they wanna go to a-l-l-a-h?? we should oblige them,they're only gonna cause trouble for our kids and grandkids


88 posted on 07/28/2005 12:27:01 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: indcons
Is it possible to civilize these barbarians? That's what we are trying to do in Irag, pull them out of the dark ages into the 21st century; where women are no longer property,install a representative secular government,provide for private property rights,see that rule of civil law is established, with a market economy. The alternative is rule by barbaric imam's with sharia law.
89 posted on 07/28/2005 12:27:03 PM PDT by wmfights (lead,follow,or get out of the way)
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To: TheOtherOne

Wondering why it took bomb blasts in the UK to evoke this response...


90 posted on 07/28/2005 12:29:54 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: TheOtherOne
In the statement, called a fatwa, the 18-member Fiqh Council of North America wrote that people who commit terrorism in the name of Islam were "criminals, not 'martyrs.' "There is no justification in Islam for extremism or terrorism," the scholars wrote. "Targeting civilians' life and property through suicide bombings or any other method of attack is haram - or forbidden."

I like what they're saying, but they need to address the question within the context of passages from the Qu'ran and Hadith that on their face clearly justify such violence. Without resorting to verbal legerdemain or blindly denying what is obvious to anyone else, they need to explain how these verses are inoperative or inapplicable.

91 posted on 07/28/2005 12:35:54 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: TheOtherOne

Islam and terrorism are forever linked.


92 posted on 07/28/2005 12:53:52 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Mr. Keys

The left seems to gravitate to such martyrs yet they reject a martyr who laid a foundation of Western civilization.

We don't come to the aid of third world victims of a tidal wave because we are rich and they are poor, we come to their aid because it is the right thing to do for another human being.

We don't do it out of some feeling of "good karma", that other nations will come to our aid when our rivers flood or hurricanes hit. They don't.


93 posted on 07/28/2005 1:07:41 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Eastbound

"Aesop was a fascist". The ants despised the grasshopper race and excluded him from their bounty when the cold winter came. < /sarcasm >


94 posted on 07/28/2005 1:10:39 PM PDT by weegee
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To: All

Odd. My tagline cleared but I didn't do it....


95 posted on 07/28/2005 1:12:36 PM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: RightWhale

There are far more outburts from muslims over "Israel", Bush, and Gitmo than there have ever been about Islamonazism and terrorism in the name of Islam.

The beheadings on video (how many have there been now? 1 dozen? 2 dozen? 3 dozen? over 50?) are of little concern.

"Not in xxxx name" my eye.


96 posted on 07/28/2005 1:18:52 PM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: TheOtherOne

And they can show me where this is supported in the Koran?
Sorry but what I have read from the Koran does NOT back up their statements.


97 posted on 07/28/2005 1:27:14 PM PDT by kalee
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To: UnsinkableMollyBrown

This religion used to be peaceful. They use to be a bunch of free thinking intellectuals until Saudi Wahhabism took over the region. Islam is a religion filled with scared chickens now.

Here's what a Egyptian intellectual thinks about Wahhabism.

http://www.heggy.org/


98 posted on 07/28/2005 1:36:54 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan

bttt


99 posted on 07/28/2005 1:42:37 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: TheDon
I'm glad they have finally taken my advice and made the obligatory statements.

As has already been pointed out on this thread, their veracity is always to be questioned. (As is anything a politician says for that matter.) What is important is what they do. What have they done? Who has been excommunicated? When this starts making news, I will start paying attention.

100 posted on 07/28/2005 1:50:37 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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