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In Egypt, Many Question Whether Their Own Culture Is to Blame for Terror Attacks
AP ^ | AP-ES-07-27-05 1910EDT

Posted on 07/27/2005 4:41:58 PM PDT by TheOtherOne

In Egypt, Many Question Whether Their Own Culture Is to Blame for Terror Attacks

By Nadia Abou El-Magd Associated Press Writer
Published: Jul 27, 2005 CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Stunned by terror attacks in a Red Sea resort, Egyptians are in a remarkably frank debate about whether mosques and schools - and the government itself - should be blamed for promoting Islamic extremism.

Even pro-government media say authorities have created a climate where young people are turning into radicals and suicide bombers.

In a country more used to hearing general condemnations of terrorism, critics on Wednesday were angry - and specific - hammering at instances where they say the government let state media and mosque preachers, including many appointed by the government, to promote intolerance.

At one mosque in Cairo, some worshippers objected to prayers for the dead and missing after Saturday's bombings in Sharm el-Sheik because some victims were likely non-Muslims, said the editor of the government weekly Al-Musawwar.

Another columnist pointed to a weekly column in the government Al-Ahram daily by a religious scholar, Zaghloul al-Naggar, who explains science by using the Quran. After December's tsunami in the Indian Ocean, he went on Arab television and called the devastation God's revenge on Westerners engaged in vice.

The debate since Sharm has been a deepening of the soul-searching that has gone on across the Arab world in recent years over whether religious interpretations need reform in the face of terror attacks by Muslim radicals.

The debate began, hesitantly, after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States. And the voices have grown with each act of terrorism - particularly ones in the Middle East. A series of attacks in Saudi Arabia in 2003 forced that country to begin taking action against extremist thought.

The 2004 Madrid bombings increased calls for change among Muslims in Europe and the Mideast. After the July 7 suicide bombings in London, Britain's largest Sunni group issued a binding religious edict, known as a fatwa, condemning the attack.

Egypt has been hit this month by a double blow: the kidnapping and slaying of its top envoy in Iraq by Islamic militants and the bomb blasts that ripped through Sharm, killing as many as 88 people - the vast majority of them Egyptians.

What was unusual about the self-criticism after Sharm was that it came from government media - and even from within the Islamic clerical hierarchy picked by the government.

"There is no use denying. ... We incited the crime of Sharm el-Sheik," ran a bold red headline of a lead editorial Wednesday by Al-Musawwar's editor in chief, Abdel-Qader Shohaib.

The bombers "didn't just conjure up in our midst suddenly, they are a product of a society that produces extremist fossilized minds that are easy to be controlled," Shohaib wrote.

"They became extremists through continuous incitement for extremism which we have allowed to exist in our societies. Regrettably, the incitement is coming from mosque pulpits, newspapers, and TV screens, and radio microphones," which are all state-run, Shohaib said.

In Al-Ahram, columnist Ahmed Abdel Moeti Hegazi wrote: "This is not just deviation, it is a culture,"

Hegazi said he went to one mosque after the July 7 London bombings and the slaying of the Egyptian diplomat but the preacher made no mention of either attack. Instead, he denounced women wearing bathing suits.

Abdel Moeti Bayoumi, a theology professor at Al-Azhar University and a member of Al-Azhar's Center of Islamic Research, said change is needed. Al-Azhar, in Cairo, is one of the leading Sunni Muslim institutions in the world.

"Islamic preaching institutions are in a very acute need for shake-up," Bayoumi told The Associated Press. "Issuing statements and holding conferences to condemn terrorism is not what is needed. They are more like a cover-up of unresolved problems."

Islamic leaders "need to do a lot of work to enlighten clerics and preachers and educate them about the true religious ideas ... and teach them about the realities of the age we're living in," he said.

The government appoints the clerics of most big mosques in Egypt - but not of many smaller mosques. The Religious Affairs Ministry gives guidelines for Friday sermons, but there is no guarantee they are followed.

Critics have complained about the justifications of violence in Iraq by some clerics. Egyptian cleric Sheik Youssef al-Qaradawi - who has a regular show on the Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera - has issued a fatwa saying that since Iraq remains in a state of war, the kidnapping of those involved is allowed, but hostages shouldn't be killed. He repeated that stance Monday, two days after the Sharm attacks.

Not all are convinced that Islam needs reform, however.

Kamal Habib - a former member of Egypt's Islamic Jihad militant group who was jailed from 1981 to 1991 along with al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden's deputy, Ayman Al-Zawahri - denounced the critics as "secular extremists who hate religion."

He blamed terrorism, instead, on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's autocratic rule.

"Mubarak's regime has produced this generation. ... This is a nihilistic generation of a nihilistic regime."

AP-ES-07-27-05 1910EDT


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; islam; sharmelsheik; terror; terrorism
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1 posted on 07/27/2005 4:41:59 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: TheOtherOne

Progress, I guess...and BTW..didya notice that nowhere in the article are the Jews blamed?


2 posted on 07/27/2005 4:43:17 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: TheOtherOne

This can only be a positive. Let's see some deeds to follow these words.


3 posted on 07/27/2005 4:44:23 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: TheOtherOne
Critics have complained about the justifications of violence in Iraq by some clerics. Egyptian cleric Sheik Youssef al-Qaradawi - who has a regular show on the Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera - has issued a fatwa saying that since Iraq remains in a state of war, the kidnapping of those involved is allowed, but hostages shouldn't be killed. He repeated that stance Monday, two days after the Sharm attacks.

Isn't this the guy embraced by that jerk Lord Mayor of Londontown, Ken Livingston?

4 posted on 07/27/2005 4:46:39 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Dog

FYI. Interesting...


5 posted on 07/27/2005 4:47:19 PM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/2 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: TheOtherOne

Oh wow... could these folks actually be ready to join the 21st century? God (NOT Allah) be praised!


6 posted on 07/27/2005 4:47:22 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: TheOtherOne
In Al-Ahram, columnist Ahmed Abdel Moeti Hegazi wrote: "This is not just deviation, it is a culture,"

I wonder what his FReeper nick is...

7 posted on 07/27/2005 4:51:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: TheOtherOne

Ok, they've got the words right, now let's see what follows. Talk is cheap, it's actions that are costly.


8 posted on 07/27/2005 4:52:21 PM PDT by kalee
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To: TheOtherOne
>> Islamic leaders "need to do a lot of work to enlighten clerics and preachers and educate them about the true religious ideas ... and teach them about the realities of the age we're living in," he said.

Yeah, we have a lot of clergy like that too. I'm not sure they can be reasoned with, but sometimes a 2x4 across the snout gets their attention.

9 posted on 07/27/2005 4:52:25 PM PDT by T'wit (If any liberals get to Heaven, they'll lecture God on what's wrong with it and reform it all to Hell)
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To: ken5050
Progress, I guess...and BTW..didya notice that nowhere in the article are the Jews blamed?

I also noticed a dramatic sea change in the European press over the last few days.

10 posted on 07/27/2005 4:54:02 PM PDT by usurper (Correct spelling is overrated)
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In Egypt, Many Question Whether Their Own Culture Is to Blame for Terror Attacks

Lemme put on my 7th century thinking towel and think this thing over. Hmmmm. All that I'm getting is eat with the right, wipe with the left.

11 posted on 07/27/2005 4:54:23 PM PDT by glock rocks (give a man a program - frustrate him for a day... teach a man to program - frustrate him for life.)
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To: TheOtherOne
"This is not just deviation, it is a culture,"

What, surely this must be a misprint.

12 posted on 07/27/2005 4:59:29 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: TheOtherOne
Yes, all of this is true. They manufactured this terrorism. Not the West.
13 posted on 07/27/2005 4:59:54 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: TheOtherOne

Short answer: yes.


14 posted on 07/27/2005 5:01:12 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: neverhome
"Oh wow... could these folks actually be ready to join the 21st century? God (NOT Allah) be praised!"

I think Egypt has always had a slightly more modern bent, not only a direct and visible beneficiary of British colonialism, but also by virtue of having a very strong cultural identity which predates islam.

15 posted on 07/27/2005 5:02:21 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: TheOtherOne
"In Al-Ahram, columnist Ahmed Abdel Moeti Hegazi wrote: "This is not just deviation, it is a culture," ..."

I see several already picked up on this, but it's worth bouncing around for a long time.

BOUNCE!

16 posted on 07/27/2005 5:26:39 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: CHARLITE

You gotta see this!


17 posted on 07/27/2005 5:29:28 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: TheOtherOne
They are beginning to realize that they are next; - that no one is safe from these mindless radical killer robots.

Thanks for this post, TheOtherOne!

Char :)

18 posted on 07/27/2005 5:34:14 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: kalee

"Ok, they've got the words right, now let's see what follows. Talk is cheap, it's actions that are costly."

It's an interesting article. The Muslim brotherhood, who some identify as the grandfather of modern Islamic terror, started in Egypt in the 1920s, I believe. The Egyptian government has been suppressing them pretty violently for quite some time. so, these actions are not unprecedented.


19 posted on 07/27/2005 5:39:57 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: AdmSmith; Valin

pong


20 posted on 07/27/2005 5:43:37 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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